Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

Steve McNair was a good quarterback but I don't think he is hall of fame material.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

[QUOTE=steveo395;440318]If they put him in the hall of fame, they might as well put mark brunell in the hall of fame because he was just as good, if not better... so basically what I'm saying is, he better not make the hall of fame.[/QUOTE]

Ok I'll be the one to say it, if Theismann is not a Hall of Famer, then McNair definitely is not.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

That was a smart move on McNairs behalf to finally retire, it was time to hang it up last year. I'm sure he would enjoy simple tasks such as walking after the game, these last couple years have been rough on his health.

Although he was fun to watch in his prime. He IMO is in no way a HOF QB.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

definitely not hall worthy. but a very good qb and person. its a shame to see him go. its the right decision though. probably a year too late. but i'd have like to see the ol' boy get some of his groove back in baltimore.

ah well, another great player retires in the shadow of brett favre. hopefully, troy smith will get a fair shot now.

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McNair never won the SB. Unless he's got Marino numbers (which he doesn't), that pretty much precludes him in my book.

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This is good for the skins, besides the fact that we play the ravens, the ravens might consider trading up into the 1st to nab a QB.

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Wow....I hadn't noticed that he's been playing that long. Man, getting old sucks.

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This doesn't surprise me. With Balt. probably looking to draft a QB, plus keep Boller and Smith, he probably would've got cut if he didn't retire. It was painful watching him play last year. His body just broke down on him. He had a good career but not HOF career.

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Very strong career, but not a HOFer. Smart move retiring now, especially if Ogden retires as well.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;440340]This is good for the skins, besides the fact that we play the ravens, the ravens might consider trading up into the 1st to nab a QB.[/quote]

good thinking, but don't the ravens pick in the top 10? I think they'll be able to nab either Ryan or Flacco if they like em. If they're looking at moving into the 1st for another pick, Brohm will likely be there at 21 when we pick. What do they have to offer?

Ozzie Newsome is a wise gm, keeps draft picks & doesn't make too many trades. I would be surprised if they end up being a trading partner w/us, but it's certainly a possibility, just like Quinn last year when Cleveland moved up to get him.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

[QUOTE=mooby;440298]I wasn't expecting him to retire this season, but I think the time is right. I always looked up to him in his better days, but as of late he hasn't been that guy. Sucks for the Ravens though, whatever rookie quarterback there gonna draft is gonna have to sit for a while while Kyle Boller plays lol. Kyle Boller shouldn't be anything more than a backup now, I really thought when McNair got injured that he'd have an easier time coming off the bench and that would help him because he wouldn't have been thought of as "the guy" in B-more anymore, but it really didn't. Good for McNair though, he recognized it's time to move on.

[b]Who thinks he has a shot of getting in the HOF[/b] with Brett Favre in 2012 now? Is he a first ballot HOF'er or will he have to wait a while?[/QUOTE]

Absolutely not. If you look at his numbers, they are eerily similar to Brunell's. So unless Brunell can make the hall, McNair shouldn't.
I loved his game, but he was a piece of glass...always injured. He never threw for 3500 yards, and there was only 1 year he was a top tier QB. If you are comparing players to their era, he in no way deserves it.
Not saying he wasn't a good player, just a hall of famer he is not.

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He'll get in after Randall Cunningham does. :D

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[quote=Mattyk72;440319]Yeah I'm thinking the same thing regarding MB. His numbers are very similar

[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrunMa00.htm"]Mark Brunell Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com[/URL][/quote]
And they both should have retired several years ago.

Re: Ravens QB Steve McNair Announces Retirement
 

Not a HOFer, but a great QB and a great guy. He was a lot of fun to watch. I think he gets a bum rap for not having better numbers, but really, did he ever have a wr? Mason is good, not great. Wycheck and Bennett were good, but not field stretchers. He always played on strong running teams (Eddie George, McGahee) though his career QB rating doesn't show it.

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Please trade up Ravens. Take Ryan Clady with that first pick and Brian Brohm with the 21st pick. I sware though if a team decides to trade up with the Redskins it's because of the combination of being in a spot that will allow x team to select whatever 2nd teir QB they want as well as being offered a discout in that the cost will only be an early 2nd and 3rd round pick. Of course I don't know the difference in money between 21 and 26 but I can imagine that it's only a couple of million dollars.