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No coach is really going to make much of a difference unless we change some FO fundamentals.

So, i'm changing the FO, but I don't see it.

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;511928]GTripp, we all agree something must change. Cowher is proven, boring but proven. I like Zorn as much as anybody but I think he is more of a coordinator. As far as Campbell goes i just think there is alot better out there.
We are all pissed off right now. I live for this shit. I wake up every Sunday morning like its Christmas for kids. It ****ing breaks my heart when we lose. I just want to win.[/quote]

Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;511960]Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.[/quote]Good post and analysis, thanks.

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the skins need to keep the coaching staff (for the most part)but the skins do need to get rid of some players like suishum,jansen,washington,springs and a few others. the skins need to upgrade the o-line, the d-line and the kicking game.

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Not only is does this thread have special needs (retarded is no longer the preferred nomenclature) but it is GAY. As in it goes on dates with other men.

People have made this argument before in the past when things haven't been going well and I've never understood how it makes more sense to cut our good players and draft their replacements when we can just keep them and draft their replacements.

The one good thing about the Redskins losing is that it's good for a laugh around here. The crazies come out of the basement...

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[quote=wolfeskins;511971]the skins need to keep the coaching staff (for the most part)but the skins do need to get rid of some players like suishum,jansen,washington,springs and a few others. the skins need to upgrade the o-line, the d-line and the kicking game.[/quote]

At the very least I see major over haul of the assistant coaches. I don't see many of the current Off assistants staying and I could see Zorn bringing assistant from Seattle to replace them. I think Blanche retires and we have to find a new D staff.

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Here is how I feel, I have been a life long 30 year Redskins fan and UVA fan. I have been watching mediocre football for almost half my life. I think we need a few core changes.

1. Coach. I know I will get crushed for this but we need someone with emotion. Someone who reminds these guys that they are playing a tough sport and not just a paycheck.

2. DEPTH! Look at these other teams, they have fresh guys who can come in and make plays. We have Portis and Santana but literally it stops there. Not one capable backup.

3. Some sort of line. Campbell is a fine QB, but right now he is looking around and rushing because he basically has no time to get rid of the ball. He has regressed this because he is basically a tackling dummy for the other team.

We are an old tired team. Its time to drop Vinny and get a real GM in here. He plays real football like it is a game of madden. Signing veterans and trading for older player with draft picks. We are basically an emotional roller coaster.

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In all honesty didn't most of us think at the beginning of the year we would be a team that might not make the playoffs? Growing pains are going to happen no matter who you bring in.

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[quote=NM Redskin;511980]At the very least I see major over haul of the assistant coaches. I don't see many of the current Off assistants staying and I could see Zorn bringing assistant from Seattle to replace them. I think Blanche retires and we have to find a new D staff.[/quote]

yea, i could see some assistant coaches leaving.

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Though I will say this: Zorn's absolute refusal to run in short yardage is very reminiscent of Saunders.

Zorn was very successful running in short yardage earlier in the season. It wouldn't kill him to get back to it, but he does know the team better than I do.

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[quote=redskinsgirl;511960]Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.[/quote]

If you think JC is better than Jake Delhomme your sadly mistaken. I think JC should have some competition next preseason. I do agree we have other major issue's to address in the draft. Colt will be #2 next year. If JC struggles you won't see him again unless Colt gets hurt. LISTEN... EITHER YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T. JC DOES NOT.....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.....just an O.K. Qb.

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The biggest problem of the Snyder era is the lack of continuity with the exception of the Gibbs 2.0 years. Blowing it up again just sets us back another year where we start with new system, and presumably many new players. We have some nice pieces to build upon, but are woefully lacking on both the O and D lines. As disappointed as I am, I want to see Zorn remain, and the team continue to learn how to run the WCO, which typically takes 2-3 years before everyone is on the same page and running like clockwork. Blowing it up now would be the immature, pre-Gibbs approach that Snyder took nearly every season. Continuity is key, regardless of how we feel today.

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[quote=redsk1;511944]No coach is really going to make much of a difference unless we change some FO fundamentals.

So, i'm changing the FO, but I don't see it.[/quote]

With Cowher we get both, considering that one of the conditions that Cowher has stated for taking a job is that he wants total control over personnel.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;511999]With Cowher we get both, considering that one of the conditions that Cowher has stated for taking a job is that he wants total control over personnel.[/quote]What makes you think that Cowher is an upgrade in the front office over Cerrato? Outside of Andy Reid, is there any situation where having a coach also handle personnel duties has acutally worked?

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;511992]If you think JC is better than Jake Delhomme your sadly mistaken. I think JC should have some competition next preseason. I do agree we have other major issue's to address in the draft. Colt will be #2 next year. If JC struggles you won't see him again unless Colt gets hurt. LISTEN... EITHER YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T. JC DOES NOT.....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.....just an O.K. Qb.[/quote]Campbell is a lot better than Jake Delhomme. It's not even close this year, and Delhomme even has Steve Smith.

What is this either you have it or you don't garbage? Campbell has most if not all of the qualities a good QB needs. You can't [I]make up[/I] a dualism: good QBs and bad QBs, and then assert that Campbell is an "Ok" QB and belongs in neither category.

Congratulations, you just broke multiple logical rules...that we're created by you and are likely wrong and oversimplifed to begin with.