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RMSkins 12-22-2008 12:18 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;514701]Joe Thomas T Cleveland, Ryan Clady Denver T, Jeff Otah T Carolina. They've all been productive in their first years (Thomas 2nd year now).[/quote]
I understand that and Mack certainly seems like a solid prospect, but I would just be careful about calling a player a "can't miss pick." I have seen way too many busts in this league to consider that their is such a thing as a "can't miss pick."

RMSkins 12-22-2008 12:28 AM

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[quote=GMScud;514700]I wonder if we should re-sign Kendall. I'd say given our lack of better options, yes, although he'll be 36 with chronic knee arthritis. He's been solid as hell all year, but I worry....

I'm the president of the Jordan Gross in '09 Campaign as far as RT...[/quote]
It definitely is a risk, but Kendall has stayed healthy and played solidly for 2 seasons in a row now. I think he has another solid season left in him and re-singing him buys us some time to develop a replacment.

Skins4L 12-22-2008 02:49 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;514672]So a 31 year old offensive lineman who is average at best is going to solve our problems??[/quote]

hes definetly not the answer. thats why i said HELP solve our problems. we seem to have injuries up front every year. sign em, draft somebody. have a little depth at the position.

Ruhskins 12-22-2008 03:26 AM

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;514703]SFRedskin:

Thank you for noticing how some teams draft offensive linemen and they actually play in real games in their first and second years - - and some of them do really well. If you find a good offensive lineman in college who doesn't get by merely on his physical skills - - and therefore often ignores his mechanics - - he can often play productively in year ONEW.

Didn't Miami draft a bunch of O-linemen last year? Haven't some actually played already? Hasn't Miami won a bunch of games this year?

Hell, even the sorry-assed Lions drafted a very good OT - - Gosder Cherlius - - who is playing RT decently for a horrid team. Cherlius could have started at RT for the Skins easily this year.[/quote]

The Redskins should take a look at Miami's draft list from last year and just follow it (they drafted a whole bunch of offensive and defensive linemen).

Beemnseven 12-22-2008 07:37 AM

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Someone had a good point on the postgame show on Redskins Radio yesterday -- Joe Jacoby was able to extend his career by about 5 years when they moved him from left tackle to right tackle. Could the same be true for Chris Samuels? Maybe draft a LT high and move him over?

If or when Samuels shows he's just able to protect against top-notch DEs anymore -- which I don't think is the case just yet -- that sounds like an interesting option.

SmootSmack 12-22-2008 07:47 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;514727]Someone had a good point on the postgame show on Redskins Radio yesterday -- Joe Jacoby was able to extend his career by about 5 years when they moved him from left tackle to right tackle. Could the same be true for Chris Samuels? Maybe draft a LT high and move him over?

If or when Samuels shows he's just able to protect against top-notch DEs anymore -- which I don't think is the case just yet -- that sounds like an interesting option.[/quote]

Someone brought that up here a couple of weeks back as well, I think it might have been Dirtbag359. I like the idea, and I liked what I saw out of Heyer yesterday at LT. But is he ready to be a full-time starter at LT? Probably not.

rypper11 12-22-2008 08:45 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;514727]Someone had a good point on the postgame show on Redskins Radio yesterday -- Joe Jacoby was able to extend his career by about 5 years when they moved him from left tackle to right tackle. Could the same be true for Chris Samuels? Maybe draft a LT high and move him over?

If or when Samuels shows he's just able to protect against top-notch DEs anymore -- which I don't think is the case just yet -- that sounds like an interesting option.[/quote]

I love the idea of Sameuels at RT, especially with Jansen beside him at G. Jansen's problems now arent't run blocking (notice how much better we run right when he's in) it's in the passing game. I don't know if it's injury or age, but it seems he's just not lateral enough anymore to play RT. Rabach is serviceable (though Vic Carucci and Gil Brandt both think he is deserving of being in the Pro Bowl) and Kendall should be fine for another year until Reinhart can take over. If we can trade up for Eugene Moore it would be a great line. If not draft a 3rd round LT and bring in a UFA that can hold the spot for 2-3 seasons.
Fabini and Heyer are decent backups.

dmek25 12-22-2008 09:10 AM

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we need some youth. extending Samuels is an OK thought. but Jansen? the guys been horrible for at least the last 2 years. lets draft an o lineman, with the thoughts of him starting immediately

BigHairedAristocrat 12-22-2008 10:30 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;514672]So a 31 year old offensive lineman who is average at best is going to solve our problems??[/quote]

exactly, no 31year olds. we dont need to sign anyone over 28

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-22-2008 10:56 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;514782]exactly, no 31year olds. we dont need to sign anyone over 28[/quote]

If we target a stopgap measure at a cheap price, I'm fine with signing someone over 28. If we target a franchise tackle at $7M per year, I agree that we shouldn't sign anyone over 28. However, that would rule out Jordan Gross, who I believe will be 29 by the start of next season.

MTK 12-22-2008 11:34 AM

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Just to be clear I don't necessarily have a problem with a 31 year old lineman if he's a quality one. Tauscher is average at best. We already have the likes of Fabini and Jansen to fill that role.

over the mountain 12-22-2008 12:22 PM

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[quote=The Goat;514676]Don't we want to get some young trench talent? No more aging vets please.

1st and 3rd round draft choices: o-lineman

... and suddenly we're on average 5 or so years younger across the o-line. Sounds too easy almost.[/quote]

given that we have zero young talent on the O line i think it would be smart to get a couple pete kendall types to help bridge the 2 year gap its going to take to put together a young starting talent group of lineman.

i just dont like the idea of expecting 1 or 2 rookies to come in and start right away.

(heyer is still a work in progress and i dont want to rely on him as an answer yet)

go skins!!

freddyg12 12-22-2008 12:39 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;514822]given that we have zero young talent on the O line i think it would be smart to get a couple pete kendall types to help bridge the 2 year gap its going to take to put together a young starting talent group of lineman.

i just dont like the idea of expecting 1 or 2 rookies to come in and start right away.

(heyer is still a work in progress and i dont want to rely on him as an answer yet)

go skins!![/quote]

just for comparison's sake, I believe the colts start 2 rooks on their o line. I think that was part of their slow start along w/Manning missing camp. It's unlikely we'd get 2 rookies in the draft that could win starting jobs their first year, but it would be great if we did. Unless heyer can transform himself, he looks like a career backup.

over the mountain 12-22-2008 12:43 PM

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^^ yeah jeff saturday's injury really effected the whole line.

go skins!!

SmootSmack 12-22-2008 01:30 PM

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Wouldn't mind taking a look at Vernon Carey.


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