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GMScud 04-28-2009 06:36 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
I wish we would have ended up with a change of pace back in the draft. A la Javon Ringer or a Kory Sheets.

Betts is a downgrade from Portis in basically every aspect when he's on the field. I'd like a 3rd down scat-back kind of player who can spell Portis AND bring something different to the table.

Trample the Elderly 04-28-2009 06:50 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do.

I think Betts would be a better ball carrier if he got more carries. Portis and Betts fumble every once in awhile although it's usually when we really don't need it.

Betts isn't expendable unless there's an upgrade waiting to take his spot. Mason has the same kind of build as Betts and Portis with the latter two having a few more years in the weight room. With Mason we're just getting a younger Portis or Betts without the experience, bulk, or skill. I do like him though.

How about this one? Which RB would you most be willing to part with and why? What Sayeth the Mob?

The Goat 04-28-2009 06:55 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;552651]I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do.

I think Betts would be a better ball carrier if he got more carries. Portis and Betts fumble every once in awhile although it's usually when we really don't need it.

Betts isn't expendable unless there's an upgrade waiting to take his spot. Mason has the same kind of build as Betts and Portis with the latter two having a few more years in the weight room. With Mason we're just getting a younger Portis or Betts without the experience, bulk, or skill. I do like him though.

How about this one? Which RB would you most be willing to part with and why? What Sayeth the Mob?[/quote]

Rock no question...like someone else said I could see this as the year he gets cut. We need something new on KR...maybe one of these young prospects.

SFREDSKIN 04-28-2009 06:55 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=Trample the Elderly;552651]I'd like a bigger RB like Brandon Jacobs or Marion Barber to run up the middle and let Portis cut up the sides like he was meant to do. [/quote]

I've got the perfect RB for you, [B]Michael Bush of the Raiders[/B]. In my opinion that guy could be better than Brandon Jacobs, he's a beast!! Supposedly the Raiders were shopping him before the draft. Did you see what he did to TB in TB who at the time was fighting for a playoff spot?

GTripp0012 04-28-2009 06:59 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;552655]I've got the perfect RB for you, [B]Michael Bush of the Raiders[/B]. In my opinion that guy could be better than Brandon Jacobs, he's a beast!! Supposedly the Raiders were shopping him before the draft. Did you see what he did to TB in TB who at the time was fighting for a playoff spot?[/quote]Bush is skilled, but the Raiders need him more than they think they do. No amount of hype is going to make Darren McFadden a great runner, nor will any amount of money make Justin Fargas reliable. Basically, their price tag on Bush will be much higher than anyone can afford for a complementary runner.

SFREDSKIN 04-28-2009 07:01 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;552657]Bush is skilled, but the Raiders need him more than they think they do. No amount of hype is going to make Darren McFadden a great runner, nor will any amount of money make Justin Fargas reliable. Basically, their price tag on Bush will be much higher than anyone can afford for a complementary runner.[/quote]

They were ready to trade him for Ocho Cinco but must have come to their senses.

GTripp0012 04-28-2009 07:06 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[URL="http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/28/cardinals-release-rb-james/"]Edgerrin James released[/URL]. He's not going to get any play with the Colts drafting Donald Brown, so maybe we could re-visit this in June.

gw0103 04-28-2009 07:09 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=Superman13732;552632]I kind of liked what the Ravens did last year with McClain and Neals, they had two guys in there that tipped the scales at 280+ and just pounded the defensive lines into the mud, if Sellers can work on his fumbling issues, would it be feasable to throw Yoder back there as Seller's FB, or the other way around?[/quote]

THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!!! Our skins have a history of smash mouth, rush heavy offense. I think we find a couple of big backs with potential and start developing them along with building a deep, strong OL with what's left in free agency and udfa's. With that done, JC can really develop even more.

NYCskinfan82 04-28-2009 07:22 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
I say cut him he's been several years and he hasn't pushed CP, we need a 2nd RB that is going to challenge CP if you can't do that you need to go in my opinion.

jsarno 04-28-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
Simple answer...yes. Just about everyone is expendable.

The Goat 04-28-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;552676]I say cut him he's been several years and he hasn't pushed CP, we need a 2nd RB that is going to challenge CP if you can't do that you need to go in my opinion.[/quote]

:doh: Sorry but "push CP"

Really? I can count all of two backs in the whole league who could be said to "push" CP...but then i tend to think that's a lousy comparison even because Peterson and Turner both run behind vastly superior lines.

Superman13732 04-28-2009 09:17 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
[quote=The Goat;552725]:doh: Sorry but "push CP"

Really? I can count all of two backs in the whole league who could be said to "push" CP...but then i tend to think that's a lousy comparison even because Peterson and Turner both run behind vastly superior lines.[/quote]

Amen, CP has been good for us, but take a look at his stats from his Bronco days behind thier insane line (it was insane back then, any runner that was behind it had over a thousand yards). If we can get a a couple of more pieces on that line, watch out world.

Zerohero 04-28-2009 09:41 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
Yeah you really can't fault Betts when he gets zero carries, if Portis wouldn't throw a fit everytime hes taken out maybe Betts can see the potential come out from a couple years ago. Plus Betts getting more carries only helps Portis, for this season and maybe add some time to his career.

takethecake 04-28-2009 09:56 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
What about the new "TE" the skins drafted, Eddie Williams? I know it's early to envision him doing anything like spelling Portis, but what do you think the FO had in mind when they drafted him (I'm thinking Sellers back-up)? Assuming he makes the team, perhaps he'd end up being good for some tough up-the-gut carries, although we'd need to bulk him up by 20 lbs or so. Depending on how he, Dorsey and Aldridge do in camp, we'll know exactly how much leeway we have with Rock and Betts, and if one of those guys can step up, I think that would be great for the team. As much as I love Rock (always see him and Smoot at caps games), I don't know how much he helps our team on the field.

Superman13732 04-28-2009 10:03 PM

Re: Do You think Betts is Expendable?
 
Two Fb formation like the ravins. I think sellers can be McClain from last year, all we need is another big body in front of him to play the FB spot, and we can decimate the opposing team's front 4, and possibly LB squads, taking some much needed pressure off of the OL.


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