Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=Lotus;569633]As far as I am concerned Vick can go anywhere but Washington.

Wherever he goes he will bring a media circus. I don't know if you want that in a backup. Therefore someone who wants him to start may take him. Maybe someone like Tampa.

However, he hasn't played a down in some time. I'm not sure that he would be effective, at least at first, even in the Wildcat. I'd make the same argument regarding his shift to another position, etc.

[B]I'm surprised that he only got 4 weeks suspension.[/B][/quote]

Really? I don't get the 4 game suspension at all. Vick already lost his credibility and reputation, his fortune, and two years of freedom. He's missed 32 regular season games over that span as well. He committed some horrible crimes, and suffered some horrible consequences.

I think the 4 game suspension is stupid. What metric did Goodell use to determine 4 games was appropriate? Did he look at everything that's happened to Vick since his conviction and say, yeah, that's about right, but I think we should throw on 4 more weeks just because. Obviously, his jail sentence aside, a 4 week suspension is waaay too light for Vick's crimes. But he's been put through the wringer over the past 2 years. Why a 4 game suspension at this point? Makes no sense to me.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=44Deezel;569665][B]On the Dan Patrick show today they spent a lot of time talking about how the Skins were the most likely team to take him[/B]. One of the comments was, "They don't have any players that can take it to the house. The need a play-maker". The only other team they mentioned was the Raiders. Sucks that the Skins are mentioned in the same sentence with the Raiders when it comes to flashy free agent signings.[/quote]

I did not catch the show, and am not doubting what you overheard. But I would take that as nothing but a cheap rumor at best.

The SKINS have stated there position (No Interest) on Vick before and I see no reason for that to change. And I certainly hope nothing has changed from the clubs point of view.

I guess time will tell. But I think his chances of landing in DC are slim and none.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;569667]I did not catch the show, and am not doubting what you overheard. But I would take that as nothing but a cheap rumor at best.

The SKINS have stated there position (No Interest) on Vick before and I see no reason for that to change. And I certainly hope nothing has changed from the clubs point of view.

I guess time will tell. [B]But I think his chances of landing in DC are slim and none[/B].[/quote]

I agree. Wholeheartedly.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;569667]I did not catch the show, and am not doubting what you overheard. But I would take that as nothing but a cheap rumor at best.

The SKINS have stated there position (No Interest) on Vick before and I see no reason for that to change. And I certainly hope nothing has changed from the clubs point of view.

I guess time will tell. But I think his chances of landing in [B]DC are slim and none[/B].[/quote]

Which one is it? Slim or none? :)

Anyway, all 32 teams right now are not expressing any interest publicly. They're all waiting to get the official ruling from Goodell. Methinks that may change once he's officially reinstated.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=GMScud;569666]Really? I don't get the 4 game suspension at all. Vick already lost his credibility and reputation, his fortune, and two years of freedom. He's missed 32 regular season games over that span as well. He committed some horrible crimes, and suffered some horrible consequences.

I think the 4 game suspension is stupid. What metric did Goodell use to determine 4 games was appropriate? Did he look at everything that's happened to Vick since his conviction and say, yeah, that's about right, but I think we should throw on 4 more weeks just because. Obviously, his jail sentence aside, a 4 week suspension is waaay to light for Vick's crimes. But he's been put through the wringer over the past 2 years. [B]Why a 4 game suspension at this point?[/B] Makes no sense to me.[/quote]

I think the 4 game suspension was for public relations only. As you've stated, Vick has already lost a LOT.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=GMScud;569666]Really? I don't get the 4 game suspension at all. Vick already lost his credibility and reputation, his fortune, and two years of freedom. He's missed 32 regular season games over that span as well. He committed some horrible crimes, and suffered some horrible consequences.

[B]I think the 4 game suspension is stupid[/B]. What metric did Goodell use to determine 4 games was appropriate? Did he look at everything that's happened to Vick since his conviction and say, yeah, that's about right, but I think we should throw on 4 more weeks just because. Obviously, his jail sentence aside, a 4 week suspension is waaay to light for Vick's crimes. But he's been put through the wringer over the past 2 years. Why a 4 game suspension at this point? Makes no sense to me.[/quote]

There has been no four game suspension handed out at this time, unless some new news has just unfolded. It's a possibility.

But, if he gets four games or even more that's up to the commish and whatever he feels is appropriate. Personally, I could care less how much suspension the clown gets. If he does get a suspension I have no problem at all with it. It's supposed to be a privilege to play in this league.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=GMScud;569669][B]Which one is it? Slim or none?[/B] :)

Anyway, all 32 teams right now are not expressing any interest publicly. They're all waiting to get the official ruling from Goodell. Methinks that may change once he's officially reinstated.[/quote]

OK...GM, Here it is straight at ya. [U][B] NONE![/B][/U] ;)

They will hold true to word, bone head will land elsewhere.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=skinsfan_nn;569672]There has been no four game suspension handed out at this time, unless some new news has just unfolded. It's a possibility.

But, if he gets four games or even more that's up to the commish and whatever he feels is appropriate. Personally, I could care less how much suspension the clown gets. If he does get a suspension I have no problem at all with it. It's supposed to be a privilege to play in this league.[/quote]

Multiple media outlets are reporting that he's getting a 4 game suspension. I understand it's up to he commish to do what he feels is appropriate. What I'm questioning is the thinking behind 4 games. Like I said, for what Vick did, 4 games is way too light. But obviously he's suffered a ton for his actions separate from any league punishment. So why 4 games? I just don't get it.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

I'll be honest...I think he's paid his debt. I agree with Mike Wise's take on this.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/22/AR2009072203266.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=FRPLG;569675]I'll be honest...I think he's paid his debt. I agree with Mike Wise's take on this.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/22/AR2009072203266.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

Excellent article. Sometimes I think people focus on little things and don't look at the big picture. Let the guy play and let's move on with your football fan lives.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

ok every one is going to hate me for saying this, but it would excite the hell out of me if we signed Vick. Cut Todd and make him our back up QB. Zorn is the perfect guy to train this guy.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=FRPLG;569675]I'll be honest...I think he's paid his debt. I agree with Mike Wise's take on this.
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/22/AR2009072203266.html"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote]

Very good article. Mike Wise always brings it. I agree verbatim with that column.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=GMScud;569666]Really? I don't get the 4 game suspension at all. Vick already lost his credibility and reputation, his fortune, and two years of freedom. He's missed 32 regular season games over that span as well. He committed some horrible crimes, and suffered some horrible consequences.

I think the 4 game suspension is stupid. What metric did Goodell use to determine 4 games was appropriate? Did he look at everything that's happened to Vick since his conviction and say, yeah, that's about right, but I think we should throw on 4 more weeks just because. Obviously, his jail sentence aside, a 4 week suspension is waaay too light for Vick's crimes. But he's been put through the wringer over the past 2 years. Why a 4 game suspension at this point? Makes no sense to me.[/quote]

I agree with what you say.

I was surprised by the suspension simply because the Commish has been a hard ass of late and previously Vick directly lied to the Commish.

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

Honestly I think he got screwed by PETA. Sure, what he did was horrible and he is a inhumane person for doing it. I am not defending a scum like him.

BUT let's face it, we signed AH for $100 million dollars who ran someone over (and almost paralyzed him) and stomped on someone's *face*. We signed Jeremy Bridges who was arrested for assault and battery last year. Plax shot himself (<grin>), Matt Jones did cocaine, and others have done a lot of other crimes (I think there were 58 nfl player arrests in 2008)..

Sure what Vick did was bad, but why is everyone else let go with a slap on the wrist?

Re: Vick can sign, may have to sit four games
 

[quote=GMScud;569674]Multiple media outlets are reporting that he's getting a 4 game suspension. I understand it's up to he commish to do what he feels is appropriate. What I'm questioning is the thinking behind 4 games. Like I said, for what Vick did, 4 games is way too light. But obviously he's suffered a ton for his actions separate from any league punishment. So why 4 games? I just don't get it.[/quote]

How many more games do you think he should miss?