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[quote=Mattyk72;608453]Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.[/quote]

While that tackle attempt was pathetic, he is right in saying that

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I think that everyone (Fans and players) are trying to get some attention on the FO. Maybe we can't be heard, but if the players can't be heard we are really in trouble. We don't know what goes throughout the week. Maybe the players are trying to get their points across, and are getting nowhere. If that's the case, the whole team should go on record addressing the lack talent being brought in. Nobody wants them to lose, but they should be able to put their input in.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;608460]While that tackle attempt was pathetic, he is right in saying that[/quote]

Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;608405]And by extension, Zorn is an indictment of Snyderatto. They were forced to hire Zorn because, quite frankly, no one else would take the job. No one else would take the job, because no one wants to work under the existing front office structure.

Zorn seems like a nice guy. I don't fault him for failing as a head coach any more than I fault Batiste (and last year Justin Geisinger) for getting lit up when forced to play left tackle. CP said it best yesterday on the John Thompson Show - you can't blame a guy (referring to Batiste) when he's giving it everything he's got. I beleive Zorn is giving the job everything he's got. Its just simply not good enough. Zorn worked with Holmgren for the better part of a decade and he never got promoted above being a QB coach. No one else even interviewed him for an OC position - yet Daniel Snyder made him a head coach in one of the toughest divisions in football. Go figure.

[I]As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. [/I]This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.[/quote]

I totally agree, and I think this is where I part with the masses. I don't mind and don't care if these guys are calling out the coach and other players. As long as they're not being disrespectful in their tone, I don't really care. How many times have we seen the Giants overcome locker room controversy and players speaking out and go kick ass on Sunday. During the pre-season we thought the Brandon Marshall fiasco was going to sink the Broncos. It didn't. This team looks poised to be a serious playoff contender.

I just think the notion that a player voicing his opinion, publicly, and stirring the waters a little bit is overblown.

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[quote=Mattyk72;608463]Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.[/quote]
The talk is just an extension of what's going on. There's going to be something to talk about all week long... just like we do here on this board.

Snyder will either say damn I've even got my players doing this.. or he'll say we're never re-signing this guy..

Re: DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy
 

[quote=Mattyk72;608463]Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.[/quote]

Completely agree with you. But missed tackle aside wouldn't you say that D Hall is actually playing well so far this season??

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;608502]Completely agree with you. But missed tackle aside wouldn't you say that D Hall is actually playing well so far this season??[/quote]
He's not playing horribly, but not worth what we paid him. It's easy to be reactionary in these times though.

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[quote=tryfuhl;608505]He's not playing horribly, but [B]not worth what we paid him[/B]. It's easy to be reactionary in these times though.[/quote]

I agree but I'm not sure there's a guy on the roster who is playing up to his contract.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;608520]I agree but I'm not sure there's a guy on the roster who is playing up to his contract.[/quote]

Im pretty sure Chris Horton is earning his paycheck.

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[quote=SkinzzFan;608520]I agree but I'm not sure there's a guy on the roster who is playing up to his contract.[/quote]

Reid Doughty!!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;608502]Completely agree with you. But missed tackle aside wouldn't you say that D Hall is actually playing well so far this season??[/quote]

Meh, so-so

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[quote=SkinzzFan;608520]I agree but I'm not sure there's a guy on the roster who is playing up to his contract.[/quote]

I guess you could argue with that when it comes to Haynesworth.. He has pretty much been disruptive force for us [I]when[/I] he's on field..

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The stupid move was to pay Portis as much as they did, instead of taking that money and investing it in the O-line. Name a Super Bowl winner the last 10 years that had a high-priced RB on their roster. Why they don't try to models themselves after organizations like the Steelers, Pats or even the Redskins of old is beyond comprehension. Strong O-Line, Good to great Defense, and great QB. There are exceptions, but that's the formula that works most often.

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[quote=GridIron26;608536]I guess you could argue with that when it comes to Haynesworth.. He has pretty much been disruptive force for us [I]when[/I] he's on field..[/quote]

Yeah, but he was as good or better for Tennessee at a fraction of the price. We need guys who singificantly outplay their contract. Then when those guys are ready to get paid, we need to be deep enough to let them walk, so someone else can pay them several times more for the same performance we got at a bargain. That's when you know the Front Office is getting the job done.

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I don't know, something just doesn't seem right about a player 5 games into a bloated contract that he couldn't have gotten anywhere else criticizing the front office. If the front office wasn't dysfunctional he would be making half as much money right now. Why do you think we lacked salary cap money to pursue more OL free agents?