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Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 10:20 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
They actually looked more aggressive to me. I think if a lot of these so-called "stars" were benched we'd have a better chance of winning.

Redskin Warrior 10-27-2009 10:21 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
Also this is what Lewis 2nd or 3rd week dealing with this team so to score as many points as Zorn did in his first week as play caller is promising. We should have had 20 points and kicked that field goal instead of letting Rabach dry hump the football on 4th down.

Monkeydad 10-27-2009 10:21 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=Brikks;616957]I wasn't able to watch the entire game, but seeing Davis and Thomas involved in the offense is enough for me to endorse Sherm.

Anyone else feel like JC could have been a different player if he had a different offensive line (even under Gibbs I recall our O-line not being that great in pass pro).

Kind of like how I always felt about Ramsey. At first he had courage, stood strong in the pocket and delivered his passes while taking hits. But he just got beat up after a while behind Spurrier's whacky schemes and got shell shocked.

I really think that taking so many hits and having no confidence in the offensive line will pretty much ruin a young QB and his development.[/quote]

You missed a great second half for us on both sides of the ball, except for Rabach costing us a TD.

Longtimefan 10-27-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
I was basically interested in seeing what affect his play calling was going to have on the overall flow of the game. For the most part it would seem all went over without many glitches. Play calling would apear to be an non issue, execution of the plays called is the real concern.

artmonkforhallofamein07 10-27-2009 10:41 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, I find this team very funny.

Monkeydad 10-27-2009 10:42 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
Playcalling WAS a concern before though. We actually went for TDs and passed near the goal line...and scored. No more stretch plays on crucial downs, no more obvious playcalls. Thomas and Davis were involved. Yes, David was more involved due to Cooley's injury, but he was in the game and productive like never before. Also, using 2 halfbacks in the backfield at times gave us an added dimension and it worked fairly well considering we have no line. We also used the shotgun a lot more than under Zorn, something we were all asking for since the line can't block. It was very effective when Rabach was able to actually get the ball snapped into JC's hands. I was very pleased with the selection of plays and the lack of predictability.

Longtimefan 10-27-2009 11:25 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;616983]Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, I find this team very funny.[/quote]

The sad part about the ARE situation with punt returns is that the problem was identifyied in the off-season. Management knew the problem needed to be addressed, brougt in a couple players to compete and failed to keep any of them. Insteadd they talked about Anthony Alridge fumbling in a meaningless pre-season game. Well this is the real deal, real games and our #1 PR is costing us real games........fumbling.

firstdown 10-27-2009 11:36 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=Longtimefan;617020]The sad part about the ARE situation with punt returns is that the problem was identifyied in the off-season. Management knew the problem needed to be addressed, brougt in a couple players to compete and failed to keep any of them. Insteadd they talked about Anthony Alridge fumbling in a meaningless pre-season game. Well this is the real deal, real games and our #1 PR is costing us real games........fumbling.[/quote]

Lets see we had 3 different guys try to return punts with the same result last night. Its not the returners its the blocking or the lack of blocking that is the problem.

Lotus 10-27-2009 11:44 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
I thought that Sherm Lewis did a few different things but overall the change was not significant. I thought that the game showed that play calling was not at the center of our offensive woes.

Haynesworth is right. We lack fire and this is our biggest problem.

Longtimefan 10-27-2009 11:45 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=firstdown;617025]Lets see we had 3 different guys try to return punts with the same result last night. Its not the returners its the blocking or the lack of blocking that is the problem.[/quote]

I agree with that assessment, and it's been that way for a long time now. Regardless of who we had as the return man, he would always be surrounded by would be tacklers simultaneous with catching the ball.

Even for the short period we had "primetime" here he couldn't get the job done either for te same reasons.

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 11:53 AM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;616983]Playcalling wasn't an issue, just like alot of others have said the execution from JC and the Oline is awful. ARE can't be returning kicks any more. That ball hitting him in the face was laughable. I really don't mind this anymore, [B]I find this team very funny[/B].[/quote]

For real!

hail_2_da_skins 10-27-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
The playcalling was fine. The execution sucked. When a team cannot execute the fundamentals of football like quarterback snap, catching a punt, blocking, tackling and pass coverage, it doesn't matter what play is called. There were people open on most of the plays called. Pass protection was the biggest problem and ball security was the second biggest problem.

30gut 10-27-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;616868]I really want to ask the biggest underlying question: How much of yesterday's game, good and bad, were tied to the introduction of Sherman Lewis......Maybe less specific but also:
more confusion in the pass pro, without Zorn in his ear did Campbell miss setting assignments

Also was the playcalling better, or just different?
[/quote]

I haven't gone back and re-watching the game but this is what i saw:

o We moved the ball
o He got Jason on the move with roll-outs
o There was more motion and shifting
o There were more formations
**Lol, Someone should have told Lewis that Fred Davis is a suspect blocker

The Most meaningful difference?
o **We threw the ball in the RZ inside the 10 yardline and we scored!!**

Trample the Elderly 10-27-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
The effect was a 27-17 loss. That's all folks!

irish 10-27-2009 01:06 PM

Re: Sherman Lewis, what was his effect
 
[quote=Mattyk72;616889]Play calling wasn't an issue and honestly I didn't see where it impacted things positively or negatively. The main issue is, and has been all year with the execution side of things.

You can call plays directly from a Bill Walsh playbook but it's not going to matter if the players don't go out and do their jobs.[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head.


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