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FRPLG 11-19-2009 10:02 AM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
No. The days of RBs being important enough to commit major resources to are over. He's oldish, been injured and plays the easiest plug and play position in football. Plus his "amazingness" could be attributed to the gimmick offense they run.

GTripp0012 11-19-2009 12:02 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=SBXVII;627479]I'm eating a lot of crow here, I like what Betts and Rock have done in the last 2 or 3 games when they have been relied upon to move the ball. I especially like them on the field together. If we went rebuild mode I wouldn't have a problem keeping them until we found a viable replacement. Maybe it's Ganther maybe it's not but it would give the team time to aquire someone. In the past I have not liked either Betts or Rock but the good news is they don't have the wear and tear that Portis has and I don't see the need to bring in someone elses broken down backs who have a lot of miles on them.[/quote]We might win a few games down the stretch because of performance by Betts and Rock, but they'll be 31 and 30 respectively next year, so we can't get roped into thinking the RB situation is okay.

They'll probably look very good down the stretch in relief of Ports, but we need to make RB a priority in the draft.

GTripp0012 11-19-2009 12:04 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=FRPLG;627517]No. The days of RBs being important enough to commit major resources to are over. He's oldish, been injured and plays the easiest plug and play position in football. Plus his "amazingness" could be attributed to the gimmick offense they run.[/quote]Of course, his career (half) season came in 2007 on a terrible team with no offensive line and a basic offensive scheme.

Ronnie Brown is probably the best RB in the league right now (even if Chris Johnson is the top big play back in the league..and not to slight Peterson, Gore, or Jackson), but this is two out of three years that he hasn't been able to play in the second half of the season. In my mind, that's the knock on him.

SmootSmack 11-19-2009 12:30 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
I'd like for us to spend our 4th round pick on someone like Anthony Dixon or Hardesty from Tennessee

BigHairedAristocrat 11-19-2009 01:06 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
RB is not something we should address with a high draft pick until we have a SOLID, established, offensive line. If nothing else, we can go with a RB by committee game in 2010 with Betts getting most of the carries.

freddyg12 11-19-2009 01:15 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
Love R. Brown but not as a fa signing - unless of course he agree to vet min. terms! :)

While I am in 100% agreement about drafting o line w/the top picks, I love CJ Spiller & I would love to see him in b&g. It would take a 1st round pick though. If there are good O linemen in the 2nd & 4th and we get 1 or 2 via free agency, I could see the logic of drafting a dynamic speed back like Spiller w/the 1st pick. Not saying that it's the smartest pick as things stand now, just saying I would still be excited about it.

CRedskinsRule 11-19-2009 01:26 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
One thing, I hate the title of this thread. If our new GM, whoever it is, does start going after high priced injured FA's, I may support bus ads.

over the mountain 11-19-2009 01:29 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;627438]With a better offensive line, cheaper running backs can thrive. Unless you're talking about Adrian Peterson, you wait until the third round or later to start drafting backs. And you absolutely don't break the bank on a high priced free agent running back.[/quote]

yeah my thought to. i really dont want to invest heavily at the runningback position.

go skins!!

SFREDSKIN 11-19-2009 01:44 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
He is not going anywhere, the Dolphins will keep him.

GTripp0012 11-19-2009 01:49 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;627438]With a better offensive line, cheaper running backs can thrive. Unless you're talking about Adrian Peterson, you wait until the third round or later to start drafting backs. And you absolutely don't break the bank on a high priced free agent running back.[/quote]This is correct. I'll say this: what the league already realizes about running backs is true about every other position as well. It just happens to be really obvious for a position with a super short shelf life.

I'm saying, you shouldn't necessarily wait until the third round. Most teams already avoid RBs in the top half of the NFL draft, but there's first round running backs, just like first round quarterbacks, and first round cornerbacks, and first round TEs. Running backs have a specific control over the outcome over the game second to only quarterbacks, so it's clearly critical that you have a good one.

Just like any other position, if you can find a "first round" talent in the fourth round, you do it obviously. Where teams tend to screw up is rewarding runners with monster second contracts (LJ, Shaun Alexander) for past performance. It's disloyal to just let them walk after having a great season, but the alternative of dead money to a player who can't produce more than justifies the decision to let an incredibly productive 27 or 28 year old RB walk.

skinsfaninok 11-19-2009 02:38 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
He's already in his mid to late twenties (cp) so no thanks

redsk1 11-19-2009 02:48 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
He's only a sophmore but Ingram from Alabama. He's going to be a good one.

RobH4413 11-19-2009 02:48 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
I think finding an elite running back is extremely difficult in this league. A guy who, regardless of his line, still dominates at the position. A player like Barry Sanders for instance.

I also think finding a good running back is extremely easy in this league. If I'm building a football team, the last position I'd address is probably at running back.

Would I throw millions of dollars at Ronnie Brown? No. I would not.

Stay with Betts / Rock, invest in the line.

mlmdub130 11-19-2009 03:02 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;627634]One thing, I hate the title of this thread. If our new GM, whoever it is, does start going after high priced injured FA's, I may support bus ads.[/quote]

nice

so far this year the teams leading the league in rushing all have losing records

1 jets
2 titans
3 panthers
4 dolphins

19 redskins

it's become a passing league and while you need a decent running back you don't need the best to win

if betts performs this way through the rest of the season i wouldn't mind giving him a shot with cp as a back up next year

redsk1 11-19-2009 03:22 PM

Re: As the new GM would you go after Ronnie Brown?
 
[quote=redsk1;627669]He's only a sophmore but Ingram from Alabama. He's going to be a good one.[/quote]

Obviously, won't be available for a couple years.


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