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[quote=Mattyk;665217]I wouldn't write off either one of these guys yet. Tryon might be a decent NB and it's too early to tell anything on Barnes just yet.[/quote]

I know, it's just that the site had been down for a few days and with the withdrawls and all I had to get in a shot on good old Vinny. Who by the way is responsible for the nations struggling economy.

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[quote=over the mountain;665202]
this isnt the first time we've heard that landry was confused as to his assignments last year b/c he was being told different/opposite things. he was told at different times last year to play the receiver and make his reads, then he was told to play the ball and make his reads, he was told to come up and be aggressive against the run then told to play back, etc.....[/quote]

I remember the same issues occuring with Sean, you now the big article talking about Steve Jackson in the Washington Post. I'm suprised he remained on the new staff.

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corners are like pitchers...you can never have enough, especially when you play in a division where the saints are going to air it out 40 times a game.

I thought his comment about LL was interesting. Sounds like he's a big dummy.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;665238]corners are like pitchers...you can never have enough, especially when you play in a division where the saints are going to air it out 40 times a game.

I thought his comment about LL was interesting. Sounds like he's a big dummy.[/quote]

the Saints are in the NFC East now?

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I'm hoping that everyone, including Los and LL, play better this year simply because we are under new management. I think we had more talent last year than we showed because the talent regularly underperformed in the face of organizational dysfunction. If Shanahallen can just get guys like Los and LL to play up to their potentials, we have a dramatically different team.

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tender him depending on how we do in FA and the draft that will determine how much longer we'll keep him. I could see Shanny bringing in Dunta Robinson especially since Kyle worked against him in houston

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I'm torn because I really don't see Rogers as a top flight corner.. Yes he is a starter in the league but in a league of 64 starting CB, I'd put him in the mid 30's or 40's. Would we be better served in signing a Dunta Robinson (remember-uncapped season) and tendering Rogers in the hope of picking up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;665243]the Saints are in the NFC East now?[/quote]

Conference. Excuse me. We'd have to go through them if we're ever going to play for a championship.

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[quote=Paintrain;665273]I'm torn because I really don't see Rogers as a top flight corner.. Yes he is a starter in the league but in a league of 64 starting CB, I'd put him in the mid 30's or 40's. Would we be better served in signing a Dunta Robinson (remember-uncapped season) and tendering Rogers in the hope of picking up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him?[/quote]

Not a bad idea. It'd be nice to recoup a pick for the Jarmon selection last year.

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He still needs to learn how to catch a ball.

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[quote=Mattyk;665179]He's worth tendering.[/quote]
Definitely; you shouldn't groan about keeping the guy but he's not above receiving offers on either.

I think that what he says about Landry and some of the scheme stuff is true, we've been hearing it for years from more than one guy.

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I think Los is a good player. He is also an emotional player. He has mood swings that can effect his play on the field. He needs to mature as a person to be a better player. I think he is a better player when we win than when we lose.

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[quote=DIE-NASTY;665238]corners are like pitchers...you can never have enough, especially when you play in a division where the saints are going to air it out 40 times a game.

I thought his comment about LL was interesting. Sounds like he's a big dummy.[/quote]
How would that make him dumb?

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;665285]He still needs to learn how to catch a ball.[/quote]
Definitely; Campbell mentioned a couple of years ago that they tried to get him to work on that at Auburn but he's a grown man now and it's his choice to work on it or not.

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I don't know how exactly it will play out, but one thing we can bet on is a much more offensively focused coaching staff. Defensive players won't become an afterthought, but looking back at Shanahan's history he just showed minimal commitment to defensive players IMO. Guys like Los and Landry will need to 1) dramatically improve their play 2) dramatically change their attitude...or I see Shanahan replacing either/both without batting an eye. Landry especially seemed to be given ridiculous special treatment the last several years. Allowed to act like a special-needs child on the field, disgracefully avoided contact on certain plays and repeatedly whiffed on easy tackles, Landry won't get the same preferential treatment going forward. He'll either be on the bench, traded or cut under Shanahan unless you believe he can dramatically change.