Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=tryfuhl;708105]Afghanistan would've been over had Bush not taken vacation during it :silly:

Honestly though it's hard to give either admin much credit on the situation. When someone inherits the "cleanup effort" it's hard to blame them more though. What makes me wonder is why neither admin really committed what they said it would take. Maybe they knew something that's just not coming to light for us common folk.[/quote]

Obama said he would pull out of Iraq and ramp up efforts in Afghanistan so this is no cleanup effort. He ran on that so Af. is his don't push this over on Bush. Again.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;708159]Spoke too soon. What have the Persians ever done to you?[/quote]

Somebody got a woody for them. That's all they talk about. Afghanistan and Iraq makes attacking Iran impossible. Obama in a hurry to get out of these conflicts for only one reason. Bush missed the real target cause 9-11 made us throw startegy out the window. those older civilizations with all this depp history, they know how to defeat an invasion. Flying around toy planes ain't getting the job done.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=firstdown;708171]Obama said he would pull out of Iraq and ramp up efforts in Afghanistan so this is no cleanup effort. He ran on that so Af. is his don't push this over on Bush. Again.[/quote]

Bush neglected Afghanistan, it is his. It is the real war he forgot. He lost Iraq (we paying the insurgents not to shoot) and Afghanistan. T - 6 months til the CNN pictures of Taliban shotting in the air in celbration. T - 3 months before somebody makea a Karzai kibob.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

jtf,

before BushII, who did you blame all the US woes on?

just askin'

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;708176]jtf,

before BushII, who did you blame all the US woes on?

just askin'[/quote]

Before bush: Hip hop wa sin classic mode, the economy was booming. We were at relative peace, we had a budget surplus. Then all of a sudden one nut stained dress changed our fate. Now we have two wars, and a super deficit. You tell me?

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=joethiesmanfan;708181]Before bush: Hip hop wa sin classic mode, the economy was booming. We were at relative peace, we had a budget surplus. Then all of a sudden one nut stained dress changed our fate. Now we have two wars, and a super deficit. You tell me?[/quote]

Yea if you wanted to ignore all the attacks on us and do nothing.

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=joethiesmanfan;708181]Before bush: Hip hop wa sin classic mode, the economy was booming. We were at relative peace, we had a budget surplus. Then all of a sudden one nut stained dress changed our fate. Now we have two wars, and a super deficit. You tell me?[/quote]


Dont forget prices at the pump didnt even keep up with inflation prior to his tenure. Then we saw record high prices in Bush's final years.

Im gonna go with Carter before him.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=joethiesmanfan;708174]Bush neglected Afghanistan, it is his. It is the real war he forgot. He lost Iraq (we paying the insurgents not to shoot) and Afghanistan. T - 6 months til the CNN pictures of Taliban shotting in the air in celbration. T - 3 months before somebody makea a Karzai kibob.[/quote]

Ok I'll make this easy. We had troops in Afghanisatan and Obama had the choice to pull them out or continue the war. He chose to stay and even bring in another 30,000 troops so now this is Obamas war. When you get to Iraq he said he would pull out the troops like he is somewhat doing so thats not his deal but AF. is and there is no way around that.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=joethiesmanfan;708181]Before bush: Hip hop wa sin classic mode, the economy was booming. We were at relative peace, [B]we had a budget surplus[/B]. [B]Then all of a sudden one nut stained dress changed our fate[/B]. Now we have two wars, and a super deficit. You tell me?[/quote]

yup some cum on a blue dress caused some f-ing ruh-tards to fly planes into buildings

and theres no way in hell the budget surplus was a result of 12 years of gop before big willy

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[QUOTE=firstdown;708185]Yea if you wanted to ignore all the attacks on us and do nothing.

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=firstdown;708185]Yea if you wanted to ignore all the attacks on us and do nothing.

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
[B]1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House[/B]
[B]1995 - Oklahoma City bombing[/B]
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen[/quote]

Lol. Those events were attacks BY us, not ON us. They were created by Americans.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=tryfuhl;708105][B]Afghanistan would've been over had Bush not taken vacation during it[/B] :silly:

Honestly though it's hard to give either admin much credit on the situation. When someone inherits the "cleanup effort" it's hard to blame them more though. What makes me wonder is why neither admin really committed what they said it would take. Maybe they knew something that's just not coming to light for us common folk.[/quote]

Afghanistan would have been over if Bush had not attacked Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, instead, thus diluting forces.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=Lotus;708196]Lol. Those events were attacks BY us, not ON us. They were created by Americans.[/quote]

Funny I looked over the list quick and did not notice those and your correct.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

Can his ass big time. Even if he is "right" he still forgot one rule. We all work for someone. And you better not undermine them. If he is so disillusioned then quit/retire and go a on a speaking tour about what a bunch of clowns they are or shut your pie hole in public and make your arguments to their faces. Don't go sandbagging them in public. Have some respect. You think a military man would understand chain of command a little better.

Re: Gen. Stanley McChrystal
 

[quote=FRPLG;708205]Can his ass big time. Even if he is "right" he still forgot one rule. We all work for someone. And you better not undermine them. If he is so disillusioned then quit/retire and go a on a speaking tour about what a bunch of clowns they are or shut your pie hole in public and make your arguments to their faces. Don't go sandbagging them in public. Have some respect. You think a military man would understand chain of command a little better.[/quote]

Amen, bro.