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[quote=SmootSmack;713454]I know they talked about draft picks. When they spoke with D. Smith about contracts not having been signed due to CBA uncertainty, they were not talking about draft picks. When D Smith spoke about draft picks not having signed he actually alluded to collusion being a factor.

After D. Smith left, Greenberg mentioned that Bill Polian has said one of the hold ups in Manning's new contract is uncertainty on the new CBA, and when they spoke about Russell and the other draft picks it was again more about D. Smiths suggestion that collusion might be in play.

Greenberg did say that the CBA uncertainty is playing a factor in everything, but they weren't saying draft picks had not signed due to CBA uncertainty.[/quote]
didn't they also say that the CBA is impacting the rookies because the owners are wary about guaranteeing money in the 2nd year of a deal for a season that won't take place?

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[quote=Paintrain;713459]didn't they also say that the CBA is impacting the rookies because the owners are wary about guaranteeing money in the 2nd year of a deal for a season that [B]won't take place[/B]]?[/quote]

mite not take place.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;713464]mite not take place.[/quote]

sorry, meant to say might not take place. or mite. :food-smil

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[quote=Paintrain;713459]didn't they also say that the CBA is impacting the rookies because the owners are wary about guaranteeing money in the 2nd year of a deal for a season that won't take place?[/quote]

That was more in reference to Polian's comments about Manning's contract situation.

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NFL Exec VP Jeff Pash was on Mike and Mike this morning and he did imply that part of the reason no first round draft picks have signed was CBA uncertainty which is affecting all NFL business. But picks should start getting signed very shortly.

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On Geico Sportnite yesterday, they showed a clip of Allen saying he felt confident, and off screen TW shouted to Allen that TW promised he would be in on time, and then Allen laughed and said, very confidently, that TW would be in. It was a good clip to see.

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They were discussing it again this morning on M&M. The word "collusion" in regards to owners was thrown around, but of course, by the NFLPA's rep.

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This whole CBA lockout crap is just plain bullshit. Not playing A WHOLE NFL SEASON due to ****ing money, MILLIONS these players and owners are making for a GAME?? Just shut the **** up, cash your checks and play football. The greed in this country is so ****ing thick, you could top a cake with it.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;713570]On Geico Sportnite yesterday, they showed a clip of Allen saying he felt confident, and off screen TW shouted to Allen that TW promised he would be in on time, and then Allen laughed and said, very confidently, that TW would be in. It was a good clip to see.[/quote]

Was Trent and Bruce both on the show? I wish I was back up north sometimes just to get the local raio and TV progams.

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[quote=Mechanix544;713701]This whole CBA lockout crap is just plain bullshit. Not playing A WHOLE NFL SEASON due to ****ing money, MILLIONS these players and owners are making for a GAME?? Just shut the **** up, cash your checks and play football. The greed in this country is so ****ing thick, you could top a cake with it.[/quote]

You realize the players are the ones who were just fine with it as is, right? They were 100% ready, willing and able to 'just shut the **** up, cash their checks and play football' as you put it. The owners pulled the carpet out by opting out of the CBA and requesting over $1 billion back from the players. The owners are the bad guys this time.

Strike-player initiated
Lockout-Owner initiated

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I would like to think this will get done with no greed hold ups. For the record I think it will, I think Williams will sign and be in camp on time. Even if it comes to the last tick on the clock before July 29 the deal gets done.

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[quote=Paintrain;713719]You realize the players are the ones who were just fine with it as is, right? They were 100% ready, willing and able to 'just shut the **** up, cash their checks and play football' as you put it. The owners pulled the carpet out by opting out of the CBA and requesting over $1 billion back from the players.[B] The owners are the bad guys this time.[/B]

Strike-player initiated
Lockout-Owner initiated[/quote]

Are they really? It's clear a rookie wage scale needs to be implemented for owners to stay afloat. When a rookie gets $50 million with a ton of guaranteed money and established players make a fraction of that...something is VERY wrong. Owners are getting burned by draft busts and Pro Bowlers are getting angry because they're not getting paid for real results.

I believe a new CBA must be agreed upon to make any changes like this.

I have no doubts they'll get something done, they realize the NFL is the biggest thing in the world and saw how the NHL and MLB have suffered long-term damage from strikes. If there is a lockout, EVERYONE loses.

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[quote=Paintrain;713719]You realize the players are the ones who were just fine with it as is, right? They were 100% ready, willing and able to 'just shut the **** up, cash their checks and play football' as you put it. The owners pulled the carpet out by opting out of the CBA and requesting over $1 billion back from the players. The owners are the bad guys this time.

Strike-player initiated
Lockout-Owner initiated[/quote]
I believe we have all cried "enough is enough" a......few times. Perhaps this is the first step? It will be interesing, no doubt.

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[quote=Buster;713822]Are they really? It's clear a rookie wage scale needs to be implemented for owners to stay afloat. When a rookie gets $50 million with a ton of guaranteed money and established players make a fraction of that...something is VERY wrong. Owners are getting burned by draft busts and Pro Bowlers are getting angry because they're not getting paid for real results.

I believe a new CBA must be agreed upon to make any changes like this.

I have no doubts they'll get something done, they realize the NFL is the biggest thing in the world and saw how the NHL and MLB have suffered long-term damage from strikes. If there is a lockout, EVERYONE loses.[/quote]

I've heard some players speak in favor of a rookie wage scale. That issue alone won't cause a walkout/lockout. Percentage of revenues dedicated to player salaries seems like a much stickier issue.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;713715]Was Trent and Bruce both on the show? I wish I was back up north sometimes just to get the local raio and TV progams.[/quote]

No, they were interviewing Bruce in a hallway, and someone, supposedly TW, shouted from off the screen, "I promised you ", and Bruce got a goofy smile and said confidently "we will get it done".

Was obviously unscripted, and showed a real good atmosphere at the park. Kinda like last year(2 years ago?) when Portis was giving an interview and another Hurricane walked by. Just really made it seem like everyone's on the same page.