Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

Man, we waited to get a DT for our 4-3 and finally AC was effective and not seeing double teams then we switch to a 3-4 and in the end we dont get any value for him at all. Just terrible.

Find another team AC, I know your a hard worker.

AC was a good guy to have on a football team. Hopefully he's still got some gas in the tank and can get it done somewhere else. Hopefully in the AFC.

Looks like an attempt to get younger and start using the draft. Please god now don't go sign Carson Palmer and TO.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=44ever;787021]Love AC but it seems change is really coming. Finally.[/quote]

"Change" is an overused term. A top 10 4-3 defense to a 31st ranked 3-4 defense is "change", but I don't think that's what you wanted.

[quote=SouperMeister;787004]...but couldn't the FO have tried holding him until the CBA was signed, then traded him for at least a 7th round pick? For that matter, the FO screwed up not trading him last year coming off a 10 sack season when Shanny first announced the switch to a 3-4. Carter's last season in SF was evidence enough that he was a poor fit, but he certainly should have gotten us a draft pick in return last year. FO Fail.[/quote]


I agree completely with SouperMeister. Carter was a good 4-3 DE, and he should have been traded at peak value last year, instead of being released. Poor judgement by Shanny to switch too early to a 3-4.

We've also undermined the trade value of McNabb and Haynesworth. Everyone knows we're trying to get rid of both.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

AC was an above avg. 4-3 DE & a subpar 3-4 OLB. He was good for the skins & played on some good defensive units here. Smart, classy guy too. Wish he could've made the transition.

No turning back now, these 3 cuts the past 2 days make it pretty clear that there's little to no room for sentiment in building this team.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=ethat001;787044]"Change" is an overused term. A top 10 4-3 defense to a 31st ranked 3-4 defense is "change", but I don't think that's what you wanted.




I agree completely with SouperMeister. Carter was a good 4-3 DE, and he should have been traded at peak value last year, instead of being released. Poor judgement by Shanny to switch too early to a 3-4.

We've also undermined the trade value of McNabb and Haynesworth. Everyone knows we're trying to get rid of both.[/quote]

I think that's being a bit hard on a coach who is trying to instill discipline and a new order, change the culture, etc. I think Shan deserves some criticism for how far he took some things w/AH & he admitted that he mishandled the detroit game benching afterwards. At some point though, a coach can't act like everything's cool w/a player just so that player looks good to teams that might be interested.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=Dread-Skin;787028]Man, we waited to get a DT for our 4-3 and finally AC was effective and not seeing double teams then we switch to a 3-4 and in the end we dont get any value for him at all. Just terrible.

Find another team AC, I know your a hard worker.[/quote]

Yep, great guy to have on your team, i really liked him, good Redskin.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

AC was an undeserving victim of the 3-4 switch. I hope that he lands on a winning 4-3 team.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

Good guy, good player in the 3-4. Hey, it's tough though, he's older and costs alot of money. It's pretty clear that we going younger. Best of luck to AC.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=freddyg12;787055]AC was an above avg. 4-3 DE & a subpar 3-4 OLB. He was good for the skins & played on some good defensive units here. Smart, classy guy too. Wish he could've made the transition.

[B]No turning back now, these 3 cuts the past 2 days make it pretty clear that there's little to no room for sentiment in building this team.[/B][/quote]

I think it is more like getting rid of guys who don't fit our scheme, which is about damn time they did that. I hope they can go out and get some guys with experience in the schemes we are putting in place (ZBS, 3-4, etc., etc.).

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

I think the meaning of the 3-4 to the redskins is that it will get us to 3-4 wins a year. Or that the skins will be 3-4 from the bottom in defense every year. I think they go hand in hand. Im just being a Nancy, please forgive.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=CrustyRedskin;787122]I think the meaning of the 3-4 to the redskins is that it will get us to 3-4 wins a year. Or that the skins will be 3-4 from the bottom in defense every year. I think they go hand in hand. Im just being a Nancy, please forgive.[/quote]

every year every team finds guys that can get it down and are unknown but if we want our 3-4 to work..... VON MILLER

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

Von Miller and a real NT and this D will be much different.

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

Jerry Gray and the Titans could be looking at Carter.

[URL="http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Ex-Redskins-DE-Andre-Carter-has-ties-to-Jerry-Gray-16905"]Ex-Redskins DE Andre Carter has ties to Jerry Gray[/URL]

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

Andre Carter is valuable to a team as a leader and as a clubhouse mentor for young players - - some of whom have serious self-destructive tendencies.

He will be missed for those attributes; not every player with "ten years in the league" has them.

Good luck to him wherever he catches on...

Re: Skins cut Andre Carter
 

[quote=Mattyk;787130]Von Miller and a real NT and this D will be much different.[/quote]

Matty:

No "inside info" here but I suspect that Von Miller will be long gone when the Skins pick rolls around.