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offiss 01-28-2005 04:45 PM

I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.

diehardskin2982 01-28-2005 04:56 PM

my list would montana, brady, leftwhich, elway, then others

skinsguy 01-28-2005 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=offiss]I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.[/QUOTE]

In the golden years of Montana when he went to Kansas City, I thought he had some decent success....I mean no Super bowl's but I believe he did get the Chiefs to the AFC Championship didn't he? Being that He played under Marty....we can all assume that wasn't a West Coast offense.

SmootSmack 01-28-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=offiss]I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.[/QUOTE]

So, do you think Charlie Weiss' impact will have a minimal impact on Tom Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense?

offiss 01-28-2005 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]So, do you think Charlie Weiss' impact will have a minimal impact on Tom Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense?[/QUOTE]


I do feel it will be minimal, I feel the new england cooridinators are a product of Belichik they run what Belichik want's, especially on the defensive side of the ball if you saw late in the pittsburg game it was Belichik reeming some player's on the field on the defensive end about there positioning not Romeo, I believe the buck stop's with Belichik, but like any QB he need's the right coaches and player's around him to succeed, if Marino played for Gibb's his whole carreer we would be saying without a doubt [IMO] that he was the greatest of all time, so a lot of thing's factor into a QB's success but I feel Brady is and has been the best at capitalizing on his situation he's not a short passing game QB like Montana, he can throw the deep ball as accurate as anyone in the game, and does so regularly, as well as making every clutch throw that is presented to him, I look for him to destroy Philli next sunday.

SmootSmack 01-28-2005 06:22 PM

oops
 
I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league

kingerock 01-28-2005 10:08 PM

If I want a field general to lead the troops with 2:00, I want Montana. If I need a hero to take it on himself to win with 2:00, I go with Farve. I loved watching Elway too, and he's a field general, but my vote goes to Joe Montana

kingerock 01-28-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league[/QUOTE]

I think with Weiss and Romeo gone next season, we'll see where the genius of the Pats is. Is it really Bellicheck (remember the Browns) or did he surround himself with great coordinators.

Daseal 01-28-2005 10:11 PM

I'm going with coordinators. He's a good coach, but those coordinators are great, and I'm absolutely shocked they lasted as long as they did!

offiss 01-29-2005 01:47 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]I'm going with coordinators. He's a good coach, but those coordinators are great, and I'm absolutely shocked they lasted as long as they did![/QUOTE]


These guy's have been in coaching a long time, I think it's ironic that only now under Belechik have they blossomed, and that is part of the reasn they have lasted as long as they have to many executives in the NFL believe they are a product of Belechik and not the other way around. The Brown's will find out the hard way, as for Notre Dame? College is all about recruiting so if the guy can recruit he will do well dropping into the college rank's from the NFL doesn't exactly scream success as a coach, it's usually reserved for the coaches who can't get it done on the pro level.

MTK 01-29-2005 11:12 AM

I wouldn't underestimate the impact that Belichick's coordinators have had. I think both Weiss and Crennel are going to be quality head coaches and they both will be difficult to replace.

I think Belichick is a lot like Gibbs in how he surrounds himself with great coordinators and let's them run their respective units how they see fit. That's not to take anything away from Belichick, but I really think losing those guys next year is going to be a huge adjustment for the Patriots.

Daseal 01-29-2005 11:33 AM

I bet Crenell does better in Cleveland than Bellichek did.

offiss 01-29-2005 03:50 PM

Only time will tell.

BleedBurgundy 01-30-2005 12:15 AM

How could you leave Ramsey off that list? He gets my vote. Lol.

Shane 01-30-2005 02:59 AM

Joe Montana. He was so cool that on the field for the last drive to beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl, he took the time to point out to a teammate where John Candy was sitting in the stands!


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