Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

good news is there are a lot of upgrade OTs available... but nothing at OG. might have to try the draft there.

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[quote=SirLK26;1055469]Exactly. The left side is solid, thanks to Williams. But the right side of the line never formed into a pocket, thanks to Chester and Polumbus. Does anyone have that GIF of Polumbus backing up as soon as the ball is snapped?

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1688619-breaking-down-what-makes-tyler-polumbus-the-nfls-worst-starter]Breaking Down What Makes Tyler Polumbus the NFL's Worst Starter | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

bleacher report spot on, amazingly. Folks Polumbus sux

Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1055441]..or a QB that scanned only 1/2 of the field. Some professionals analyzed game tape, and even cooley said this about him.[/quote]

See, and that's the point. That is how the offense worked. The routes were consolidated so that his reads were close to each other on half the field. This is due to a lot of reasons.

It was the scheme.. In the long run, it was a offense built to abuse RG3's abilities and never progress him. Just used to win now, but once defenses caught on there was no plan B.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1055470]Agreed, you have to be real careful with PFF rankings sometimes. I generally agree with the way they grade players though. Scheme, pistol, alot of things were done, but the line was never meant for pass pro. The interior is the problem, the edges of the line are elite or good enough. They should sacrifice some mobility and go for more size and strength IMO. I doubt it affects Morris at all, he is great with contact anyways. The other thing is we struggle blocking outside of the pocket area, WRs and TEs this year. As we've seen on film, one missed blocked from a WR or TE can ruin a play. The assignments get so complicated, and that is another knock on Shanahan, too much thinking.[/quote]

I am shocked someone agrees with me!
when I post something at 5AM it's usually garbage.

Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

[quote=That Guy;1055471]good news is there are a lot of upgrade OTs available... [B]but nothing at OG.[/B] might have to try the draft there.[/quote]

Zane Beadles might become free and would be an upgrade.

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[quote=mredskins;1055459]It is going tbe interesting to see if Alfmo is good because of Alfmo or MS's zone blocking next year.[/quote]

Are you kidding me? You still don't see Alfmo's talent? Well, I'm not going to argue the point with you because it's senseless.

If there is any player on this team whose production we don't need to worry about, it's Alfmo. If you can't see that, just believe the rest of us.

Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

yeah, gee. i guess now that the shanny zone blocking is gone, morris is going to forget how to break tackles or make good reads.

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The problem with these rankings are they're based on what happened, not what the line is capable of. If the line weren't so shitty the play design could have been vastly different.

Not saying Griffin and others don't share blame. But this line is a huge reason we couldn't do more.

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IT also seems to ignore the fact the the pocket routinely collapsed. I mean rarely was Rob able to take a drop without one or more linemen getting pushed back up on him.

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[quote=Mattyk;1055462]Gruden likes zone schemes too, but he favors the inside zone running. Morris should be fine.[/quote]

I think he might fit better on the inside stuff too.

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PFF is a joke.

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Say what you want about the pass protection, personally I feel RG3 had plenty of time on most plays. But you also have to consider the success of Alfred Morris, which is directly the result of a good offensive line. With pass protection, the receivers didn't help much either I know (I think because of poor play design/choice). But RG3 needs to improve more.

I feel the best way to help RG3 is to give him a defense. If we could hold teams to under 20 points like good teams do, he wouldn't have to put his body on the line every single game. We could also run the ball more effectively too which takes more pressure off of him.

Here is another stat from PFF which shows that we had the worst pass rush in the entire league through November. [URL]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/27/pass-rushing-productivity-team-defenses/2/[/URL]

I am glad the Shanahans are gone and I hope Hazz is gone too. Hopefully this will be a good change for the team and Gruden can coach up RG3. Not having to rehab will also help him tremendously for next season.

Bottom line: Fixing our defense NEEDS to be the #1 priority this off-season. I can deal with our offensive line and I think Griffin will improve on his own.

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[url]http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol[/url]

FO says we're 23rd, and that morris is pretty good. we also run left 40%, right 27% and inside the rest. that points to a weak right side, and the stuff rate on runs is bad for us. still #4 in power success (3rd/4th/goal and 2 yards or less to go).

i think that's a much better analysis than PFF.

Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

It's hard to be the third best line in the league with so many below average parts. But having Trent Williams makes everybody elses job easier. And Polumbus' improvement was legitimate to a degree.

The receivers deserve a lot of criticism for some of the hits Griffin took this year though. A lot of weak routes, getting physically dominated, and at times, outright laziness. All of those factors will force a quarterback to hold the ball.

And other times, RG3 just didn't see the play developing as it was practiced.

Re: 2013 PFF Offensive Line Rankings
 

I will concede that the offensive line seemed to do fairly well with the zone blocking schemes for running plays, but I saw a lot of horrid plays on that right side of the line during passing plays.

This article still doesn't excuse the fact that this OL needs major upgrades.