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What this tells me is Cousins wants to work hard to become a better QB. That is all. Has anyone heard if our other two QB's are getting extra work with a Super Bowl winning coach?

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[quote=Mattyk;1107549]Jay sure didn't show anything to believe Cousins was his guy last year. Even when he had the chance to go back to him he left him inactive. Kinda telling.

Sounds like this is more about Cousins trying to take advantage of every opportunity possible. Smart on his part, but it doesn't say anything about what Jay is thinking.[/quote]

Yup. Keim says that KC is working out with other QB coaches, not just Jon Gruden, so the Gruden angle is overplayed.

Keim also says that Griffin is still working out with Terry Shea. This makes it hard to get excited about possible improvements for him.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/15358/redskins-wake-up-call-kirk-cousins-jay-gruden-and-vernon-gholston]Redskins wake-up call: Kirk Cousins, Jay Gruden and Vernon Gholston - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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As someone mentioned it on the radio this morning, Cousins' career is on life support and he needs all the help he can get.

I really dislike this attitude of dismissing protection problems. Anyone knows that protection is not the only reason why all three QBs failed this past season, but that doesn't mean it is not a problem. We don't have a QB on the roster that can overcome the shitty line that we have right now. I don't know why everyone expects overnight for Cousins or RG3 to be able to overcome our bad offensive line.

We have an example within NFC East (Dallas) and in the Conference (Seattle) of teams that have built superb o-lines and are not solely QB dependent to win in the league. IMO, improving the line should be priority #1 this season, and then they can figure out what to do with the QB position.

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Regardless about the play of the line, our QBs got a ways to go to becoming viable starters in this league. Unfortunately, Cousins is closer to being there than RG3.

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I don't think anyone is dismissing the O-line issues, I think everyone recognizes it is our biggest need.
But to have a QB not adjust his game and hold on to the ball for far too long and do it over and over again again when he knows there is an offensive line problem is what has people scratching their heads wondering if this guy gets it. Is it ego or stupidity/incompetence?
The other thing that drove me nuts is when a pass play fell apart, his first instinct was to take off running with it instead of throwing the ball away.

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[quote=Defensewins;1107569]I don't think anyone is dismissing the O-line issues, I think everyone recognizes it is our biggest need.
But to have a QB not adjust his game and hold on to the ball for far too long and do it over and over again again when he knows there is an offensive line problem is what has people scratching their heads wondering if this guy gets it. Is it ego or stupidity/incompetence?
The other thing that drove me nuts is when a pass play fell apart, his first instinct was to take off running with it instead of throwing the ball away.[/quote]

Yeah, no excuse for RG3 constantly holding onto the ball like he did. He made a shakey line look 10 times worse.

No more excuses for RG3, he should be able to read defenses by now and should know where to go with the ball in this offense.

Also he has worked long enough with folks that his mechanics should be prestine by the start of camp.

No more excuse folks, none

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[quote=Defensewins;1107569]I don't think anyone is dismissing the O-line issues, I think everyone recognizes it is our biggest need.
But to have a QB not adjust his game and hold on to the ball for far too long and do it over and over again again when he knows there is an offensive line problem is what has people scratching their heads wondering if this guy gets it. Is it ego or stupidity/incompetence?
The other thing that drove me nuts is when a pass play fell apart, his first instinct was to take off running with it instead of throwing the ball away.[/quote]

I see what you are saying, but the overall problem is that this team has set itself up to be in a situation where they depend on the QB to overcome all of their shortcomings (such as shitty line). And well we don't have a QB that can do that on the roster, so I think the next best thing is to focus on the line.

You can criticize RG3 and the offensive line at the same time; they don't mutually exclude each other. The team struggled with all three QBs under center. And whether your have RG3 or Cousins or some other young QB under center, the offense is not going to work with the offensive line we have period.

RG3 has a lot of issues, so does Cousins; fixing their issues is part of the solution. But it won't matter who will be under center unless the line is fixed. You can win with a strong line, very good running play, a good defense, and without depending on your passing play. If we have the same type of line we've had in the past three years, the offense is not going to improve at all.

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[quote=Mattyk;1107557]Get ready for more Griffin.[/quote]

If he beats out the competition, and there's no BS politics involved then I'm fine with that. I just don't see how he does that based off his play the last two years. At least in 2013 he had a couple good games. Last year he basically stunk all year long. The coaches had to run a high school offense when he played.

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Gruden is having a press conference at the combine right now...

"We will go into the season with Robert as the #1 guy"

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From his press conference RG III is going to be the guy.

Cousins has been given a ton of chances. The main thing with him is not the ints, but it's how he handles it mentally.

Completely distances himself from Cousins working with Jon, says anyone can do it. Just fyi guys

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[quote=Mattyk;1107557]Get ready for more Griffin.[/quote]



Ughhh...




[B][SIZE="5"]@Rich_TandlerCSN 5m5 minutes ago

“We’ll go into the season with Robert as the No. 1 guy”.—Gruden.
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The hell. Probably not by his choice.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1107575]Ughhh...




[B][SIZE="5"]@Rich_TandlerCSN 5m5 minutes ago

“We’ll go into the season with Robert as the No. 1 guy”.—Gruden.
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The hell. Probably not by his choice.[/quote]

Well Scott McC said they were not giving up on RG3. I like the consistency personally. Also, you go into camp without this as baggage/drama/etc., etc.

Besides, the team needs to get better in other areas, which are more important IMO.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1107576]Well Scott McC said they were not giving up on RG3. I like the consistency personally. Also, you go into camp without this as baggage/drama/etc., etc.

Besides, the team needs to get better in other areas, which are more important IMO.[/quote]

When you spent so many draft picks and invested so much time with RG3, you need him to be much better and start producing right now. nuff is nuff.

Nothing is more important than getting your QB playing at a high level. nothing

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To me it doesn't really matter that Griffin is named the number one. But what are the chances that Griffin starts 16 games? My prediction is slim to none.

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[quote=Defensewins;1107569]I don't think anyone is dismissing the O-line issues, I think everyone recognizes it is our biggest need.
But to have a QB not adjust his game and hold on to the ball for far too long and do it over and over again again when he knows there is an offensive line problem is what has people scratching their heads wondering if this guy gets it. Is it ego or stupidity/incompetence?
The other thing that drove me nuts is when a pass play fell apart, his first instinct was to take off running with it instead of throwing the ball away.[/quote]

the problem with RG3 is much worse than just "holding onto the ball too long" imo.

He literally takes the wrong drop backs the play call asks for.

on a 3 step drop play call, the O line and protection is for a 3 step pocket/quick fire. RG3 would take a 5 or 7 step drop, totally killing any O line protection bc they block assuming he is 3 steps back .. not 5 or 7. So when a tackle rides an end rusher 7 yards past where the pocket should be, he is doing his job, unfortunately RG3 is not and is where he shouldnt be.

totally agree that he tucks the ball and becomes a runner way too much .. what drives me nuts is that when he scrambles in the pocket, its not to buy time with his eyes down the field. He tucks the ball, ducks his head then invariably scrambles backwards in a circle.

If you are going to tuck the ball, run it up field for a few yards, not sideways or backwards.

if you are trying to scramble to buy time, keep the ball in a throw-ready position.