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Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.

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[quote=Schneed10;1116171]Let's not get carried away with the Bill O'Brien love based on a pre training camp speech, or anything else we see on Hard Knocks (again, it's training camp).

I don't think Gibbs would have been a darling on HK, but he could manage people and he could adjust at halftime like the best of them. Speeches on HK don't impress me.[/quote]

I rather have Bill over Jay before ever hearing a HK speech from Bill. I am willing to bet Bill is the coach of Houston next year and Jay is working at Taco Bell with RGIII.

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546082-pierre-garcon-steps-to-jj-watt-on-hard-knocks-gives-him-a-new-name]Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name | Bleacher Report[/url]

Garcon!

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When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1116175][url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2546082-pierre-garcon-steps-to-jj-watt-on-hard-knocks-gives-him-a-new-name]Pierre Garcon Steps to J.J. Watt on 'Hard Knocks,' Gives Him a New NSFW Name | Bleacher Report[/url]

Garcon![/quote]

[quote]And that is how a [B]tiny scatback[/B] called the scariest man in the NFL a "f--k boy" and lived to tell the tale. For now.[/quote]

Bleacher Report at its finest. :laughing-

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Thought it was a great show too. Several players on that team you gotta like including Watt and DeAndre Hopkins. The coach is a solid guy too.

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[quote=Mattyk;1116176]When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??[/quote]


...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .

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[quote=Mattyk;1116176]When did O'Brien become this superstar head coach??[/quote]

No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.

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I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat:
Tennessee (twice) (2-14)
Jax (twice) (3-13)
Oak (3-13)
Us (4-12)
Cleveland (7-9)
Buffalo (9-7)
Baltimore (10-6)

So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me.

And, yeah, Penn State was a tough gig, but, after year one he says ""I’m not a one-and-done guy. I made a commitment to these players at Penn State and that’s what I am going to do. I’m not gonna cut and run after one year, that’s for sure." Then, after year two, he's quits for the Texans job. So, one year = not living up to commitment, but two years = living up to your commitment. I mean, technically, he did what he said, but, in my mind anyway, he sure as hell did not live up to the spirit of his words or to his supposed "commitment to th[e] players at Penn State." I am really not a fan of these "I'm deeply committed to this franchise/college -- until I get a better offer" coaches.

He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date.

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Just not getting the O'Brien circle jerk, let's see what he does after a few years.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1116183]No one said he was a superstar. Just that he's probably a better HC than Gruden. He did a hell of a job at PSU and went 9-7 with no QB last year.[/quote]

This, I am willing to bet Bill is employed longer then Jay.

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[quote=Mattyk;1116191]Just not getting the O'Brien circle jerk, let's see what he does after a few years.[/quote]

Why are you so against him? Did he kick kick your grandma?

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[quote=mredskins;1116195]Why are you so against him? Did he kick kick your grandma?[/quote]

I've got nothing against him, just don't get all the man love going on for a 2nd year HC.

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[quote=Mattyk;1116196]I've got nothing against him, just don't get all the man love going on for a 2nd year HC.[/quote]

I am not saying he is Vince L. but I like him over Jay. Anyone ever checkout Jays past? They guy is a career UFL and Arena football coaching star. Oh wow!

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[quote=Giantone;1116182]...... post #9 and 10 of this thread .[/quote]Lol, really? That's all it takes?