Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

Crowder deserves a chance on the outside.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=RobH4413;1171119]He is discounting his size in the context of anything but a slot receiver. I think his point (and others on this thread) that his value drops exponentially in a different role are correct.

Moving him to an X or a Z would be akin to forcing Andre Carter to play out of position. Does it mean Andre Carter sucks? No. But he was night and day when used correctly. There are countless examples in Redskins history of us plugging in people in the incorrect spots, so lets not do that.[/quote]

See what your not really getting is this... they aren't changing his role completely. Doctson is to play outside when we shift to a three wide receiver set. Putting JC back to his usual role last year (slot) just when they are in two wide receiver sets, he will play outside rather than sitting on the bench. They are developing Doctson on the outside, but the team realizes that JC can play Deseans role last year just as well if not better than DJax. On the other side in two receiver sets and one receiver sets the role that used to be Pierres is Pryor.

So Jamison will continue his role when we go to three wr sets and increase his role when we go to two Reciever sets. He isn't undersized when you compare him to Desean. Crowded has some beef to him

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1171124]See what your not really getting is this... they aren't changing his role completely. Doctson is to play outside when we shift to a three wide receiver set. Putting JC back to his usual role last year (slot) just when they are in two wide receiver sets, he will play outside rather than sitting on the bench. They are developing Doctson on the outside, but [B]the team realizes that JC can play Deseans role last year just as well if not better than DJax.[/B] On the other side in two receiver sets and one receiver sets the role that used to be Pierres is Pryor.

So Jamison will continue his role when we go to three wr sets and increase his role when we go to two Reciever sets. He isn't undersized when you compare him to Desean. Crowded has some beef to him[/quote]

Now you're just getting carried away. Crowder absolutely cannot play Jackson's role as well or better than DeSean did. Jackson is an elite deep threat with exceptional speed, ability to adjust to deep throws, etc. Crowder is very quick and he is an excellent receiver but he does not have the exceptional speed that DeSean has and because of that he will not be feared on the outside the way DeSean is feared.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

You are right that Desean did offer elite speed. We all know that, but What I meant by my comment was that JC will give us a more rounded football player on the outside that does the little things that DJ did not. Between Doctson, Pryor and JC I believe we will be just fine at WR and given eachs skill set we shouldn't DJs speed and ability to catch.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

Pryor is playing DJax old position WR, so that will be who is replacing the deep threat.

People really need to remember this is Doctson rookie year and with the injury uncertainty, he needs to earn that outside starting spot.

Crowder in OTA was the best player on the field apparently. Him and Reed. So why not give him a shot on the outside? Crowder and Reed have the strong bond with Cousins as pass catchers with give them a significant advantage to be more productive than Pryor and Doctson.

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[quote=MTK;1171121]Plenty of smaller guys have had big time careers.[/quote]

Steve Smith jr for instance.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=Orakpwned;1170940]Apparently, [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/Redskins/comments/6harwn/jamison_crowder_has_been_the_preferred_target_at/"]Jamison Crowder has been the preferred target for Kirk Cousins in OTAs[/URL].

I was anticipating he would be the 3rd target after Reed and Pryor, but how will the targets end up being split? And where does Josh Doctson fit into that?

I see it being something like:

Jordan Reed ~100 targets
Jamison Crowder ~90 targets
Terrelle Pryor ~70 targets
Josh Doctson ~60 targets
Chris Thompson ~40 targets[/quote]

Terrelle Pryor-100 targets
Brian Quick-80 targets
Jamison Crowder-80
Josh Doctsun-50
Jordan Reed-60 targets
Vernon Davis-20 targets
Chris Thompson-60 targets

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=30gut;1171132]Terrelle Pryor-100 targets
Brian Quick-80 targets
Jamison Crowder-80
Josh Doctsun-50
Jordan Reed-60 targets
Vernon Davis-20 targets
Chris Thompson-60 targets[/quote]

If Reed is getting 60 then you must expect him to play 8 games.

GTFOH

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=Schneed10;1171138]If Reed is getting 60 then you must expect him to play 8 games.

GTFOH[/quote]

Yeah and why in the name of sanity is Brian Quick getting 80 targets??

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=metalskins;1171131]Steve Smith jr for instance.[/quote]

Santana Moss and Antonio Brown to name a couple more. Crowder is more than just a slot WR to me, he could play on the outside if needed.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1171141]Santana Moss and Antonio Brown to name a couple more. Crowder is more than just a slot WR to me, he could play on the outside if needed.[/quote]

He is, but he is best utilized as a slot given our personnel. I'm making the (MAJOR) assumption that Doctson is ready this year... and that Pryor is the de facto outside threat.

I guess my opinion here is that if we were doing a madden rating by position, JC would be a 95 at slot receiver, but a 82 at outside. Sure, line him up in some of the two receiver sets or at running back in your offense, but in the vast majority of plays he should stay put.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1171141]Santana Moss and Antonio Brown to name a couple more. Crowder is more than just a slot WR to me, he could play on the outside if needed.[/quote]

Just looked up your Antonio Brown comp, and they have strikingly similar dimensions, college careers, early stats etc. I hope you are on to something there. Would be nice.

Re: Jamison Crowder our #1 target?
 

wonder if crowder is gonna return punts too still?