Some fine print you guys did not notice in this rumor article - The Lions would also give The Pat's their 4th round pick in 2004 as well as the 6th pick. Last time I checked, we do not have a 4th round pick. We have a 5th and a 6th round pick.
This is the same type of rumor as yesterdays Raiders 1st pick to Redskins...a bunch of chit!

You want a rumor? how about this one from: [url]http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm[/url]

In short:1st (#3), 2nd and 3rd in 2004
1st and 3rd in 2005
2nd and 3rd in 2006
Calvin Pace
Gerald Hayes

all for one Randy Moss.

[QUOTE=JoeGibbsIsBack]You want a rumor? how about this one from: [url]http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm[/url]

In short:1st (#3), 2nd and 3rd in 2004
1st and 3rd in 2005
2nd and 3rd in 2006
Calvin Pace
Gerald Hayes

all for one Randy Moss.[/QUOTE]

Wow.. and Barry Sanders 'un-retires" to the Ravens? LaVar has dropped his grievance? Postons named by NFL owners as Agents of the Year!

Now that's some April Fool's joke!

[QUOTE=offiss]Interesting, sound's like detroit's #6 pick can be had, I say we stick with taylor then do what we have to do to get detroit's pick and grab winslow.[/QUOTE]

Music to my ears...... :httr:

[QUOTE=offiss]Interesting, sound's like detroit's #6 pick can be had, I say we stick with taylor then do what we have to do to get detroit's pick and grab winslow.[/QUOTE]

Let's say we get a 2nd for Gardner. Is Trotter, the 2nd and maybe next year's 1st too much for the Lions' 1st this year and maybe another mid-to late round pick?

I'd say no thanks!

Taylor or Winslow are just too good to pass up. Sure, we get two low first round picks (the 2nd is practically a 2nd rounder) and a second rounder where we will find mediocre talent. I'd rather fill a hole for 10 years with an impact player!

IF... I repeat .. IF that deal offer is true... and we get it instead of Detroit... for some reason I just don't see it... BUT

If so... I'd KEEP the 21st and 32nd picks and use the 21st on either Randy Starks, Will Smith, Vince Wilfork or Ben Troupe (whichever is still there)... and the 32nd on Jake Grove (or Troupe)

Grove is the best Center to come out in a WHILE and he would REALLY be the Jeff Bostic to this new group of HOGS. (I heard a rumor that Bugel really liked what he saw when scouting him.) It would allow us to let Larry Moore go... freeing up cap-space.

Starks, in my opinion, could be the steal of this draft. He is a STUD. Wilfork can plug an interior line all by himself a-la Gilbert Borwn and Ted Washington, only he is MUCH MUCH MUCH quicker than both. Will Smith has 10-15 sack potential and Troupe could be the Ben Coates, Keith Jackson. Jay Novacek compared to Winlsow being more Shockey... which makes me JUST as happy at the least.

Then in the second, we could take Boulware the LB and we are SET!

Of course... I just don't see the Pats giving all that up for one guy, seeing as how the team is set up to have no "superstars" .. just guys playing together, BUT .... I hope it works out....

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Hell yes we should take that. We can jus turn around, send those two first rounders right back to Detroit and get Kellen Winslow II. I'm HUGE on taylor, but two first rounders a second and a fourth would be a little much to pass up. I'd be happy just taking Taylor too.[/QUOTE]
No Kidding!

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Let's say we get a 2nd for Gardner. Is Trotter, the 2nd and maybe next year's 1st too much for the Lions' 1st this year and maybe another mid-to late round pick?[/QUOTE]

I am starting to get off the winslow band wagon as I talk about in a new thread, but if detroit would give up the #6 pick for trotter, gardner, and our #1 next year I would make that trade in a heartbeat, the problem is I think we would have to sweetin the pot a bit, probably 1 more pick might do it, and I say it would still be worth it, I just don't know if winslow will really fit in, charactor is the biggest factor when gibb's look's at a player, and that's the biggest problem when you look at winslow, Gibb's just doesn't want player's who stay out of serious trouble, he want's guy's who are real quality people, player's with big heart's on and off the field, the more I think about it the more I pull back from the thought of taking winslow. but I still say taylor is the man!

Take the trade if it's there. It's not like we have spare picks cluttering up the war room. Besides, we can always sign Taylor when he becomes a free agent if 4 or 5 years time!! :laughing-