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[QUOTE=heybigstar]I thought Jason Campbell looked like a blue-chipper. While he was against the 3rd team, one thing he possesed was poise. He also had a rocket arm and excellent scrambling ability. I would live to see him play 3-4 games into the season. Im not sure
if I am putting to much weight on the 1st pre-season game. But his performance def. was a positive of the game.[/QUOTE]

just temper his performance with the fact that he was playing against scrub 3rd and 4th stringers, his throws to the flats aren't very accurate (for whatever reason), and he's not great at reading defenses yet.

That said, i think he looked comfortable and generally made good reads and throws.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]I really hope so. Because we all deserve more than what we have been seeing so far. I'm in New Jersey and NFL Network seemed reluctant to show <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> live action in Carolina, opting to show <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> Giants's rain delay rather than <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> non-extisent offense of <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> Redskins.[/QUOTE]


You ain't kidding either Sunra, where you been? I was saying the same thing they would rather show a rain dealy in cleveland than live action for the skins, the no huddle from direct is lousy, last time I waste time trying to catch some skins action.

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Ramsey doesn't trust the offense yet IMO, it will take a little time of consistant line play before he relaxes, the good news is we didn't allow a sack against a very formidable defense, Ramsey will have plenty of time and plenty of reps from here on out to prepare for the opener.


As far as Brunell is concerned, an experienced veteran like Brunell should look good against a backup defense in the pre-season.

Rock had a pretty good night catching the ball looked good coming out of the backfield.



For anyone who didn't see the game I believe the NFL network will be replaying the whole game monday at 4:00pm if you have direct tv.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]Okay, after game one Ramsey looked extremely uncomfortable. He said on that INT that <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> ball came out wrong in his hands....translation, he put too much air under <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> ball. Of course, it would help for <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> dump off receiver to run a route past <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> first down marker! :frusty:


Anyways, for <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> brief time that Brunell had came in, he looked alot more comfortable than Ramsey, and performed pretty good....at least from what I got to see of <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> game. I didn't get to see Campbell at all, but others I have talked to said he preformed pretty well.

I am worried about Ramsey though..I know it's just <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> first preseason game, but leaving your first team offense in for nearly <a href='http://67.15.154.58/cmapp/zx-hclick.php?hid=2' target='_blank'>the</a> entire half is not a good sign![/QUOTE]


He didn't put to much air under it, if you saw the pass it came off his hand like a wounded duck, the guy is still nervous back there, hopefully he will calm down as the protection progresses.

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Say Offiss, why is that whenever you quote someone that original quote comes out all funky?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Say Offiss, why is that whenever you quote someone that original quote comes out all funky?[/QUOTE]


I have no clue I was wondering myself? I though maybe it was the sight but I guess not, anyone who can help by all means.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Say Offiss, why is that whenever you quote someone that original quote comes out all funky?[/QUOTE]


The weird thing is it doesn't alway's do it.

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Another thing I've noticed about Ramsey tonight was that he was trying to finess the ball instead of trying to zip it in there. I know Musgrave is trying to teach Ramsey how to put more "touch" on his throws, but when he was playing under Spurrier system, his long throws seemed perfectly fine. I'm not a big fan of Musgrave, he produced lowest scoring offense an a coordinator for the Jaguars last year, so how is he supposed to help our offense?

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to answer the question of the thread. No, we need "consistency" blah blah blah, same old smae old. No way can i hope that brunnel starts, but remember Ramsey and Brunnel both played in the second and both played similar players, brunnel just did a hell of alot better. It wasn't that he had easier players to play against in the third, it was just that he was so cool under pressure. He did roll to the left again and again but hey when he did he actually made defenders miss, i love the screen when brunnel was running back about 15 yards and just made a nice touch pass and the player went for 15 yards, if anyone saw that or has it recorded, look at Portis, he comes running down the line like a 10 year old and starts jumping up and down and up and down. he wasn't even in the game but he was so exited, it was just cool.

I just hope that both brunnel and Ramsey do well and in that case even Campbell, better they do the better we are. Ramsey can do it, i just feel he can. Do any of you truly feel that if Ramsey doesn't preform early it will be the end for him in washington? no it just feels Ramsey is right.

THE DIRTBAGS!!!!! OWNED. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS AND HAIL JOE BUGEL> WHAT THE HAIL I NEVER SAW THE GLORY DAYS BUT DAMN HE TURNED THAT SHEEEEET AROUND!!!!!!

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I'm going to chalk the tone of this thread up to not seeing Redskins football for eight months. Clearly the offense looked a little off, but it's the first preseason game! If we had looked great, it would mean precisely nothing. Should we be upset that Ramsey underthrew two balls? A little. Should we be planning the ascent of the third-stringer? Not really.

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]I'm not too worried about a skins QB controversey. Ramsey will be better when he works with the first offense. he didnt have much time to get comfortable and we didnt have much of a running game (although I think we could have). [/QUOTE] OK were you watching the game? Ramsey played with the starters for almost the 1st half. Portis was the only one pulled early. And they ran the ball great. Ramsey has played with the 1st team offense sine last year. All the OTA's, Mini Camps and Trainning Camp. In Washington we always have a QB controversy, its just the nature of the beast.

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[QUOTE=CRT3]OK were you watching the game? Ramsey played with the starters for almost the 1st half. Portis was the only one pulled early. And they ran the ball great. Ramsey has played with the 1st team offense sine last year. All the OTA's, Mini Camps and Trainning Camp. In Washington we always have a QB controversy, its just the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]

Dude we had no running game at all. The team had only 22 rushing attempts (3 of which were by Cambell and Ramsey) for only 68 yards. That's definitely not a running game.

Of course, they didn't really try to run at all. Gibbs only called for a running play 19 times. That's definitely not a Gibbs offense, and is definitely not the kind of game he'll call in the regular season. Last night had extra emphasis on the pass because he wants to get that phase of the game in synch. Pass protection looked better. But remember, Ramsey and all the other QBs were forced into a lot of 2nd and longs and 3rd and longs because there was no running game. So the Panthers took away the deep passes in those situations.

I agree that Ramsey looked a bit shaky on some of those throws and he needs to be better. But remember that Gibbs will emphasize a lot more runs in the regular season. Let's not judge the offense until we see Gibbs call a game the way he would in the regular season.

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remember how good danny wurffulle(sp) and the skins offense looked during that first pre-season game against the 49ers a few years ago? remember how bad danny and the skins offense sucked during the regular season?


pre-season games don't really mean a whole lot. sure i would have liked for ramsey to look a little better but it's still very early.

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[QUOTE=SUNRA]I really hope so. Because we all deserve more than what we have been seeing so far. I'm in New Jersey and NFL Network seemed reluctant to show the live action in Carolina, opting to show the Giants's rain delay rather than the non-extisent offense of the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

I felt the same way Sunra......everytime the Redskins had the ball they seemed to cut away either to another game or the talking heads at NFL Network to compliment the Panthers........Yes and lots of the Forty Whiner game too :rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]Forgive me... I didnt mean that he hasnt been working with the first squad in practice... I meant that he only had his first string running back in for one series in an entire game... and thats our idenity. Also the play calling was down to bare minimal in the preseason and he hasn't worked with the guys much against other people's defenses. Thus he has a reason to be a bit uncomfortable and a hope of coming out of it.[/QUOTE]

I have to commend you on your support of Ramsey. Are you not concerned at all. Jake Delhomme didn't seem to have much of a problem moving the ball, even without Muhammad. Oh, and I don't think he had much time to "gel" with Rod Gardner.