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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-28-2005 10:57 PM

Re: Free Agent DE's
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Really? I haven't seen much of him. He won't be a Phillips Daniels will he?[/QUOTE]

No, he shouldn't be. I'm in Packer country and I've seen a lot of him. He is a highly underrated young DE. He's just 25. He's been improving every year. His rookie year he had just .5 sacks. His sophomore year he had 2 sacks. Last year he had 4.5 sacks. This year (with 5 games to go), he has 6.5 sacks and 3 FFs. He's got a motor that just won't quit.

He likely will never make the Pro Bowl, but he's a rising young talent that is versatile and is an excellent starter. We should scout and try to grab up and coming players (like Kampman) instead of going after guys who we will be paying for their past performances instead of their potential. We could probably grab Kampman and another top notch DT for the price we'd pay to get Abraham.

ST21 11-29-2005 01:22 AM

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There is a post. of possible 2006 Roster read that, there is a list of DE on there

dmek25 11-29-2005 06:45 AM

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i dont want hall from penn state(see courtney brown)that being said i think we should also be looking at interior lineman.we need a large tackle that is a run stopper.anyone with any ideas?

Daseal 11-29-2005 07:21 AM

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What scares me is many of the DE and DT prospects people have wanted us to draft in the past have done absolutely squat in the NFL. It's such a hit or miss position.

#56fanatic 11-29-2005 08:49 AM

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What I think people are forgetting is the collective barganning agreement has yet to be signed. If that is not signed by a certain date, which apparently is more likely NOT to happen, there will be NO SALARY CAP for the next season. Which, out of any team in the NFL, we all know who will spend,spend,spend and spend some more. The Freeny thing could be a possibility if there is no cap, but dont look for us to go out and sign him if there is a cap. We dont know what is going on with LaVar in the offseason yet, that has some cap implications there. As well as Brunell, I know he is playing well this year, but if we continue to lose are we going to keep at 35, next year 36 year old QB on the roster and waiste time developing Campbell? dont think so. There will possibly be a deal w/ the Jets in the offseason w/ Ramsey since they are not sold on Pennington any longer. Plus Ramsey will be in the last year of his contract and not cap hits will be taken, other than the salary we were paying him anyway. There are alot of if and buts right now, but I would definately entertain the trade for Abraham, and draft a DE. We need two because I think both of ours stink. 3rd round I think we need to try and find a stud MLB. Marshall is servicable, but not a dominant MLB that good defenses have. Our corner situation can be addressed in the draft as well. I hope we start building from the draft rather free agency. We need to start building a TEAM, not just piecing one together.

dmek25 11-29-2005 09:24 AM

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with no cap next year,the skins will really load up.i dont see this happening

MTK 11-29-2005 09:31 AM

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I'm not sure if an uncapped year will result in more spending since teams won't know what the long term implications will be for a new CBA.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-29-2005 10:17 AM

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I would think you really couldn't stop teams from spending at will in the offseason. I think that when a cap really does get approved after that, they would take the mean of the salaries and create a cap based on that, because I'm sure the players wouldn't mind making all that money. I wouldn't think they would be able to be like, "OK, Well you just signed that person to this huge contract, now cut 30 members of your team."

PSUskinsfan11 11-29-2005 11:31 AM

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i dont want hall from penn state(see courtney brown)that being said i think we should also be looking at interior lineman.we need a large tackle that is a run stopper.anyone with any ideas?[/QUOTE]

First of all its Hali not Hall. Brown was injury prone even at PSU. Most of his injuries in college were minor and he played through them, plus he was so good in college that people over looked them. Don't think Hali will be like Brown just because they are both from PSU, if that was the case why wasn't William Joseph the next Warren Sapp.

hurrykaine 11-29-2005 11:47 AM

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I doubt we will go after a DE or D-lineman in the draft. It will have to be in free agency. The pressure to produce wins next year will be tremendous, and given the learning curve for a rookie D-lineman/pass rusher, they can't simply step in and produce immediately. Not to mention, most of the drafted rookie linemen/ends end up injured in their rookie year (a la Kenechi Udeze).

The Abraham for Ramsey deal looks imminent at the end of the season.

MTK 11-29-2005 12:00 PM

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I read today that the Jets have their eye on Brees.

I'd guess that whoever the Chargers go with as their long-term guy, either Brees or Rivers, the Jets will look to deal for the odd guy out.

backrow 11-29-2005 12:32 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I read today that the Jets have their eye on Brees.

I'd guess that whoever the Chargers go with as their long-term guy, either Brees or Rivers, the Jets will look to deal for the odd guy out.[/QUOTE]


I've heard that the Jets (Just End the Season) have officially entered the Matt Leinhart(sp?) sweepstakes!

:dallas: :dallas:

That Guy 11-29-2005 08:11 PM

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i'd love tapp in the draft, but he'll be gone soo fast and we don't even have a first round pick.

even 2nd string pass rushers would be much better than what we've got... the chargers can stop the run AND get a ton of sacks, so i don't buy blache's cover story of either or. if we can't get a big name, just get someone young who's been improving and has 2-4 years of nfl experience and at least 10 sacks to his name.

PSUskinsfan11 11-29-2005 10:01 PM

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I really wanted to get Reggie Hayward last year he wouldhave been great

[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235077[/url]

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-30-2005 12:29 AM

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[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]I really wanted to get Reggie Hayward last year he wouldhave been great

[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235077[/url][/QUOTE]

He would have been a very good pickup and I too was interested by him, but I think he was slightly out of our price range.


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