Re: How bout it Lavar
 

To be fair offiss the pick that MW caught was a tip very similar to LaVar's.

They both played great and were all over the field. Our LB crew was outstanding tonight.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=Beat the Cowboys]itvnetop, I from I'm from LA too is there a sports bar where the L.A. redskin fans watch games?[/QUOTE]

Yo Beat, I was told about a place called Joxer Daly's a few blocks from where i live in west la (near culver city)... Coincidentally, I got a philly from a joint adjacent to Joxer's after the game today... I ran into a bunch of Skins fans in the shop, and they told me it is THE skins' bar in LA. I was told it seemed like a few hundred fans were there and it felt like Virginia all over again.

I'm thinking about going there for the Hawks' game next weekend- you down?

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

I stay in Fox Hills so I'm pretty close I going to try to make it happen.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]To be fair offiss the pick that MW caught was a tip very similar to LaVar's.

They both played great and were all over the field. Our LB crew was outstanding tonight.[/QUOTE]


Totally agree, it's also why I didn't include it, lol.

Realisticly Washington is all over the place, he alway's seems to be in the right place at the right time.

That fumble recovery and return where he fumbled so Taylor could recover for a TD was an absolute stroke of brilliance. ;)

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

Washington is absolutely our defensive MVP. He was all over the field and has been a beast all season. Lavar played well but he honsestly did fumble that pick back to the Bucs though. I think that's why he was a bit sheepish in the postgame interview--he knew he was lucky! A microcosm of today's game if you ask me. Better to be lucky (and win) than be good...

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.[/QUOTE]

Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=Southpaw]Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.[/QUOTE]


It's this simple, when Lavar comes remotly close to playing on defense, as Moss play's on offense, he will be cut some slack, but I seriously doubt that will ever happen.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

He is a true Redskin. That's what Gibbs wants. We should not get rid of him.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=offiss]It's this simple, when Lavar comes remotly close to playing on defense, as Moss play's on offense, he will be cut some slack, but I seriously doubt that will ever happen.[/QUOTE]

Don't know if it will never happen. But I agree that you can rely on Arrington quite the same way you can with Moss. Plus LA brings a lot of the scrutiny on himself with his constant complaints to the media of "Why am I not playing? What have I done wrong? Just let me play?" etc.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

Lavar is a beast. He is really outgoing, and I have really liked him. He has been one of my favorite players since I starting watching football at the age of 5. Lavar ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he will be back next year with the skins. GO SKINS

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

I agree with you big time. Even though he was not disciplened at the beginning of the year, but now he is playing, and helping the skins out big time.

The skins owe him alot of money after this year.
Anyways I think he will be back.

He loves it in Washington and he deserves to be back with the way he plays.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

I watched the pre-game and I watched after the game everything that he was saying. Like I said earlier he is a really outgoing guy. He is the best. I love that man (as a player).

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]He did have that big INT, but he also had another silly offsides penalty on 3rd and 5 extending a drive for the Bucs. He's got to get more disciplined there[/QUOTE]


Okay,but it is not just about that one game it is about the rest of the season. He does need to be more disclepend,but he is a great player, and he helps us alot.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=offiss]Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Where's the big time pass rush? Where's the big play ability? I am glad he made that INT but lets be realistic, just about anyone on this site could have made that play, he was just in the right place at the right time, not a common occurance for Lavar.

Lavar doesn't sack the QB, he doesn't even pressure him, he's supposed to be a difference maker, HE'S NOT!

Marcus turned in the play of the game on the 4th and 1 in the red zone late in the game, he forced Simms to throw an incomplete pass, that was the play that turned the momentum for us. [the dropped pass in the end zone was the biggest turning point but we didn't create that, tampa shot themselves in the foot][/QUOTE]

Geez Offis, I can't believe I gotta set you straight AGAIN. According to NFL.com game stats, Lavar and Washington both had 7 tackles, 2 assists and an INT. How exactly is that Marcus "without a doubt" outplaying Lavar? Good god man, do some research before you start talking.

I am NOT denegrating Marcus Washington's play - the guy has been a beast all year long and without a doubt our MVP at the linebacker position, and yes, he's outplayed Lavar most of the year.

Why can't we, whether we like Lavar or not, admit when a guy has a good game? I mean what's the problem? You want to take away his INT just because he was "in the right place at the right time?" That's what football is all about. I don't care if you made a 15 foot vertical leap or just happened to look up at the right time and get the pick, the result is you got the INT. This BS about it being so easy it doesn't count or your grandmother/dog/aunt/wife/you could've done it is just so freakin' retarded. Go suit up and get on the field yourself and make that play before you spout off that it was so easy. People who have never played the game spouting off about how easy it is...

Marcus Washington AND Lavar Arrington both had excellent games (with identical stats) and it resulted in a playoff win - why the hell can't we just let that be?

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=Southpaw]Why is it the in thing to do, to point out a penalty on LaVar and use it as an excuse to sh-t on him? Moss had two illegal motion penalties called on him today, but I haven't heard one person call him "boneheaded". LaVar had a great game, and made a game changing play, but it's still not enough for some of you. I don't get it.[/QUOTE]

I pointed it out b/c it was a mental lapse at a critical time. Something LaVar has a history of doing. Yes, he makes great plays - he also makes costly gamebreaker types. All penalties are bad - but Lavar's offsides was akin to the Rabach's holding call in the Oakland rather then to a "run of the mill" penalty in that both the offsides and the holding call had a direct effect on the ability of hte team to stop/continue a drive.

I will say it again. I like Lavar - always have. I just think that when every one of his coaches (save Marty who really liked him) has had issues with his on field discipline - I think their might be something to it. I hope he can stay and really come into his own on this defense. I KNOW GW thought LaVAr could be something special when GW first got here - I saw GW's response with my own eyes when someone asked Gibbs how he would generate a pash rush. He believed in LA but, after seeing him play and practice - is a bit wary.

BTW - I was watching highlights of the game - guess who's name kept popping up: Marcus Washington. He was all over the field.

Let me hear just one Lavar worshipper say that Marcus was the man this week AND the better LB and then I will stop dismissing your arguments as mindless hero worship.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=mheisig]Marcus Washington AND Lavar Arrington both had excellent games (with identical stats) and it resulted in a playoff win - why the hell can't we just let that be?[/QUOTE]

Stat wise they certainly were equal AND LaVar had a really good game. But, just watching the highlights, MW kept popping up on ALL the big plays.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]BTW - I was watching highlights of the game - guess who's name kept popping up: Marcus Washington. He was all over the field.

Let me hear just one Lavar worshipper say that Marcus was the man this week AND the better LB and then I will stop dismissing your arguments as mindless hero worship.[/QUOTE]

For starters, watching highlights and basing your "MVP honors" on how often a name comes up is about as weak as it gets. John Gruden and Chris Simms' names kept coming up so often I thought the three guys in the booth wanted to strip naked and take a bubble bath with them. If you're gonna base your props off how much a player's name comes up, then I'd say the clear winners last night were John Gruden and Chris Simms...oh wait, they lost, nevermind.

I suppose you could say I'm a "Lavar worshipper" (not really, but I think the guy is good). I WILL gladly admit Marcus has been the man this SEASON. He rocks and I hope he has a long and prolific career with the Skins. For the GAME last night, Lavar and Marcus were DEAD EVEN.

I want to hear the "Lavar haters" admit (or at least prove otherwise) that Lavar had a game equal to Marcus'.

I really don't understand the big controversy here really. Marcus Washington is awesome - no doubt about it. Lavar WAS awesome and this season has been, what I'd call above average. Do we really have a problem with having lots of good linebackers? Or do we want to argue that Marcus Washington is the ONLY good linebacker and the others suck?

I for one and perfectly happy to have two of our LBs have an awesome game.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I pointed it out b/c it was a mental lapse at a critical time. Something LaVar has a history of doing. Yes, he makes great plays - he also makes costly gamebreaker types. All penalties are bad - but Lavar's offsides was akin to the Rabach's holding call in the Oakland rather then to a "run of the mill" penalty in that both the offsides and the holding call had a direct effect on the ability of hte team to stop/continue a drive.[/QUOTE]


As long as we're pointing out mental mistakes, how about Marcus Washington fumbling the ball after he recovered it?

Yes, it turned out quite well for us with ST running it in for the score, but it was STILL a mistake by Washington no matter what the end result was.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=mheisig]As long as we're pointing out mental mistakes, how about Marcus Washington fumbling the ball after he recovered it?

Yes, it turned out quite well for us with ST running it in for the score, but it was STILL a mistake by Washington no matter what the end result was.[/QUOTE]

And Lavar fumbled his return and got lucky that it was called down by contact. Those weren't mental mistakes, rather good play by the tacklers.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=mheisig]For starters, watching highlights and basing your "MVP honors" on how often a name comes up is about as weak as it gets. John Gruden and Chris Simms' names kept coming up so often I thought the three guys in the booth wanted to strip naked and take a bubble bath with them. If you're gonna base your props off how much a player's name comes up, then I'd say the clear winners last night were John Gruden and Chris Simms...oh wait, they lost, nevermind.

I suppose you could say I'm a "Lavar worshipper" (not really, but I think the guy is good). I WILL gladly admit Marcus has been the man this SEASON. He rocks and I hope he has a long and prolific career with the Skins. For the GAME last night, Lavar and Marcus were DEAD EVEN.

I want to hear the "Lavar haters" admit (or at least prove otherwise) that Lavar had a game equal to Marcus'.

I really don't understand the big controversy here really. Marcus Washington is awesome - no doubt about it. Lavar WAS awesome and this season has been, what I'd call above average. Do we really have a problem with having lots of good linebackers? Or do we want to argue that Marcus Washington is the ONLY good linebacker and the others suck?

I for one and perfectly happy to have two of our LBs have an awesome game.[/QUOTE]

First of all, I too am happy they both had great games. But, based on when and where the plays were made I give the solid edge to Washington. That's just my opionion based on my observations. Washington came up big on the 4th down stop and appeared to me to be the man on the spot at the crucial times.

I am not trying to take anything away from the good things Lavar did. But this thread started out as another "Lavar is awesome and anyone who doubts it is stupid" thread and struck me as just one more thread on looking at the world through lavar colored glasses.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]I am not trying to take anything away from the good things Lavar did. But this thread started out as another "Lavar is awesome and anyone who doubts it is stupid" thread and struck me as just one more thread on looking at the world through lavar colored glasses.[/QUOTE]

The only reason this is a thread at all is because better that have the board is in the "I've always loved LaVar, but..." camp. No one has ever questioned Marcus Washingtons ability, or his contribution to the team. Yet, there's constantly someone talking about how "boneheaded" or "overrated" LaVar is.

As I said before, I agree that worshipping LaVar is a bit overboard, but so is looking for excuses to sh-t on him.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

OK, I just read the article on Arringtons performance on redskins.com.

I didn't realise his wife was due to give birth this week. Hope it's early in the week!

Given this little tidbit, anyone else feel that a) he'll be even more up for it against Seattle and b) he may well come back next year with a different (more mature?) attitude?

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

Great games by Lavar and the rest of the LBs. Hats off!

The offsides penalty sucked obviously, but I'll still take that any day if it comes with 8 tackles and a crucial INT. Way to go, Lavar

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=offiss]Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one, a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

Where's the big time pass rush? Where's the big play ability? I am glad he made that INT but lets be realistic, just about anyone on this site could have made that play, he was just in the right place at the right time, not a common occurance for Lavar.

Lavar doesn't sack the QB, he doesn't even pressure him, he's supposed to be a difference maker, HE'S NOT!

Marcus turned in the play of the game on the 4th and 1 in the red zone late in the game, he forced Simms to throw an incomplete pass, that was the play that turned the momentum for us. [the dropped pass in the end zone was the biggest turning point but we didn't create that, tampa shot themselves in the foot][/QUOTE]




this is the reason i started this thread, are you kidding me , with Lavar we have one of the best linebacking cores in the league. second to denver. without Lavar we just have a Greg Williams system doin what it always does... work. and thats not a problem at all. but this team needs Lavar. he's definatly a threat and offenses have to account for him. if you noticed after the first half have we rarely blitzed at all and when we did blitz they were run blitzes and when we run blitz Lavar is covering the te. if we wanna talk about an easy interception. the interception that ended the game was right in there also. im mean come on with Lavar in there we add to our threats on defense, and it gives Sean Taylor more of a chance to run around and drop the hammer on someone. You know we all love to see that. I say keep Lavar and we have the #1 defense next year.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=offiss]Marcus without a doubt, WITHOUT A DOUBT, outplayed Lavar today, he is by far our best LB, [b]Lavar made 1 big play, and that was the INT, and the pepsi machine could have made that one,[/b] a deflected pass right into his sturnum real tough, he also looked like he was running in slow motion for the end zone.

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Without taking sides, gotta give props for the funniest line of the thread.. Well done Offiss..

MACHINE

MACHINE

MACHINE

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

its almost idioc Paintrain isnt it?

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]And Lavar fumbled his return and got lucky that it was called down by contact. Those weren't mental mistakes, rather good play by the tacklers.[/QUOTE]

Dropping the ball after you are down is neither a fumble nor a "mental mistake."

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=PorterHouse]this is the reason i started this thread, are you kidding me , with Lavar we have one of the best linebacking cores in the league. second to denver. without Lavar we just have a Greg Williams system doin what it always does... work. and thats not a problem at all. but this team needs Lavar. he's definatly a threat and offenses have to account for him. if you noticed after the first half have we rarely blitzed at all and when we did blitz they were run blitzes and when we run blitz Lavar is covering the te. if we wanna talk about an easy interception. the interception that ended the game was right in there also. im mean come on with Lavar in there we add to our threats on defense, and it gives Sean Taylor more of a chance to run around and drop the hammer on someone. You know we all love to see that. I say keep Lavar and we have the #1 defense next year.[/QUOTE]


C. Clemons was on his way to becoming Lavar's full time replacement before he was hurt. If you want to talk coverage skills you may want to talk to G. Williams and ask why he was replacing lavar on passing downs all season long?

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

I am really beginning to grow tired of how much we come on the website and try to compare one of our beloved -vs- one of our beloved (i.e. Brunell vs Ramsey saga)..both LA and MW were GREAT...the D was just GREAT. Any contribution that LA or MW gives us on any play I will take it and I refuse to spend time picking apart whom is better than the other! They are BOTH Redskins players, we are ALL Redskins fans (supposedly)....like Lavar said Loyalty is a two-way street....respect him and root for him just because he is a SKINS player trying to accomplish the ultimate...the SB.

Don't get me wrong...I am not a LAVAR-worshipper as someone earlier stated in the thread...nor am I a MARCUS-hater....good football is good football and if Lavar can make 1 good play or Marcus makes 1 good play it does not matter to me....with that being said....the ultimate ingredient in the recipe for success in the game of football is TEAMWORK>>> Please save all your dissections and comparisons for the offseason, we don't need that right now!

Concentrate, focus and prepare for Seattle and win the game!

GOOOOOOO SKINS!!!!!

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=offiss]C. Clemons was on his way to becoming Lavar's full time replacement before he was hurt. If you want to talk coverage skills you may want to talk to G. Williams and ask why he was replacing lavar on passing downs all season long?[/QUOTE]


when he is coming out on third down it so the nickel back or 2 db's can come in. you know you cant deny his coverage skills. we could ague this forever im just glad your not making any of these decisions.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]MW has been making those kinds of plays all year, LaVar [font=Arial]finallly[/font] makes one and everyone goes nuts.[/QU



lavars been making plays for this team six years so shut ya piehole

















































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Re: How bout it Lavar
 

I am a Lavar fan, but I am a Marcus fan as well. For the Lavar haters, you guys all talk about how much he sucks, and yada yada, but the fact is, when he is on the field, he makes an impact. No, you don't see a huge play as much as you do from marcus, but when he's on the field, other teams know where he is, and that frees things up for our other playmakers. No doubt Marcus has been the better player all year long, but as soon as Lavar does one good thing all I hear from the Lavar haters is that he was lucky, yada yada, he got lucky they ruled it down by contact, and all i hear from the Lavar worshipers is that he is totally worth it, and it proved he's still a good player. Lavar makes enough of an impact.

@offiss: You really think Chris Clemons was gonna be Lavar's full time replacement? what a daft statement, considering when Lavar wasn't in there on first and second down, Warrick Holdman was. Chris Clemons only came in on third downs to rush the passer. The reason for that is, Chris Clemons can rush the passer better than Lavar. I don't have any problem saying that, Chris Clemons has speed, and that's what his primary role is.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]NO - it was a big deal. That's the point. Lavar makes a great play followed by a bonehead play. Fortunately the defense stepped up and covered for him giving away a crucial first down. Sorry - if he gets recognition for the good stuff then fess up and admit that the was a classic dumb Lavar mistake.

Again, MW is hyped every f***ing play - When was the last time you saw him jump offsides?

To win at the highest level it takes everybody doing all the little things right. No freebies for the other team. That's what Gibbs has been preaching, that's what the majority of the players seem to understand and that's why we are in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
you are talking like we can only keep one or the other they are BOTH BEASTS. lavar has history being one of 2 multiyear skins pro bowlers the other being samuels. like smart people have said greg williams is the genious behind the Defense stop saying MW is better he's just had more time with the GW defense remember lavar was out most of last year while marcus was playin GW way. LAVAR is just needs time he's gone through so many dif D coordinators we NEED him back this feels like its dan snyder's money paid D not the redskins D i remember with smoot champ lavar and my man Darrell Green. I love the D just gotta hold on to the same players to keep this team a team.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=PorterHouse]when he is coming out on third down it so the nickel back or 2 db's can come in. you know you cant deny his coverage skills. we could ague this forever im just glad your not making any of these decisions.[/QUOTE]


Sorry but you haven't been paying attention, Clemons was replacing Lavar all season on passing down's. Not a nickle corner.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

:soapbox: To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=PorterHouse]:soapbox: To rush the qb it's common knowledge that Lavar has had his problems. comin back from injury, fitting in with the system. if The Great G.W. didnt think he could help this D then he would be on the bench. He's done it already. The mans a starter and a presence. Stop hatin on him. I remember us only sendin one or two people to the pro bowl and Lavar was always one of em. How can you say you like the team and your hatin on a team mate. This guy gave his all for the Skins, Iremember every tackle he made was so hard that he would have to come out cause he hurt himself,( ask Troy if he's a player)Six years how many defensive coordinators how many different systems? Can you blame him for wanting to freelance out there. Now he knows what he got to do and thats ok with me as long as we are winning thats all that matters. I m a Redskins fan not a Marcus fan or a Lavar fan I love the whole team everyone has a roll and everyones playin it. They both had the exact same stats 9 tackles 1 pick. but the biggest thing you need to remember is the score. If anyone should go its the guy holdin the wire from Joe"s headset cause joe tripped over it at least twice.[/QUOTE]

There is a big difference between hatin and telling it like it is, perhaps Lavar is part of the reason we had a different coordinator every year? I f he gave his all for the team he would listen and do as he's told, the fact is Lavar alway's wanted to do what's best for Lavar, and that's to run around the field doing whatever he feels like, while constantly being caught out of position, every coach he has had has said the same thing about him, can they all be wrong? I guess, but I doubt it.

As far a s pro-bowls are concerned, you can have them, I want wins, and championships, that's how I measure the greatness of a player, not a trip to Honolulu for a popularity contest.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

Your a waste of an opinion you make no sense.>>>>>>>" There is a big difference between hatin and telling it like it is, perhaps Lavar is part of the reason we had a different coordinator every year? "<<<<<<<<<<yeah that makes alot of sense we did have the best coaching staff every year too. i dont know why im wastin my time with this:bdh: :bdh: :bdh: :bdh:

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=hurrykaine]Note to Lavar: See what happens when you play within the scheme? He was in position and that's why he landed the INT right in his lap. If he'd been chasing someone else or trying to bullrush when he wasn't called upon to, he wouldn't have been able to make the play. Of course, Lavar proved that he wasn't the brightest bulb on the christmas tree when he jumped offsides on a 3rd and 5 to give TB a first down - keeping TB's drive alive and leading to three points.

All said, Lavar did end up having a good game, and he has been a positive locker room influence. Gotta be excited for the guy who's been waiting 6 years to get to the playoffs. I want to belive he wants to be here next year, but i don't see him willing to renegotiate his deal after the ugliness that transpired between him and the skins management.[/QUOTE]

So when somebody has a good game its within the scheme, a bad game and he didn't. so if everyone is in the right place at the right time, no body should even be able to gain a single yard. I am so sick of hearing people say about him out of position when everyone else seems to get free passes. Sean Taylor is out of position on a few plays everygame, Marshall too. Clark is cought off guard once or twice a game. This crap has got to stop. We won the game, he had a typical LaVar game. leave it at that.

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

im a redskin fan thats estatic that we have 2 of the leagues premier linebackers playing for the skins.i hope we can have this debate after next week victory in which lavar and marcus both have 10 tackles and both have an interception.every team in the league would love to have this so called "problem" that we think we have here on this thread

Re: How bout it Lavar
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS]He did have that big INT, but he also had another silly offsides penalty on 3rd and 5 extending a drive for the Bucs. He's got to get more disciplined there[/QUOTE]

Are you people kidding me. 5 yards, 1 time. compared to 10 tackles, int , forced fumble. you people are nit picking big time. I think we as a team played a pretty good game defensively, and you want to pick out one offside penalty? give me a break