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70Chip 03-01-2006 07:47 PM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think we should cut Brunell and save some cap.[/QUOTE]

You need to put that in your TPS report. Did you get the memo about the TPS reports? Great.

If I were Snyder I would sue the league in Federal Court. They are engaged in every form of nefarious monopoly, restraint of trade, collusion, extortion racketeering, violations of the Mann Act (see Panthers Cheerleaders), pimping, pandering, cruelty to animals, public urination, indecent exposure, and civil rights violations so numerous, profound, and disgusting that both brevity and decorum prohibit listing them here. Its outragous.

Why not. Davis beat them in court. It's the American way to sue when you can't have your way.

onlydarksets 03-01-2006 07:51 PM

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[QUOTE=70Chip]You need to put that in your TPS report. Did you get the memo about the TPS reports? Great.

If I were Snyder I would sue the league in Federal Court. They are engaged in every form of nefarious monopoly, restraint of trade, collusion, extortion racketeering, violations of the Mann Act (see Panthers Cheerleaders), pimping, pandering, cruelty to animals, public urination, indecent exposure, and civil rights violations so numerous, profound, and disgusting that both brevity and decorum prohibit listing them here. Its outragous.

Why not. Davis beat them in court. It's the American way to sue when you can't have your way.[/QUOTE]

Wow - Office Space to Animal House, all in one post! Nice job!

Pocket$ $traight 03-01-2006 09:12 PM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
I would make the cuts and sacrifice for 2006. Then I would sign every free agent that gibbs wants (and every player from the U) and pay all of the bonuses in 2007. I would also restructure every contract to get every single dollar possible paid in 2007. Then I would enjoy the football version of the Yankees for the next decade.

GoSkins! 03-01-2006 10:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I think we should cut Brunell and save some cap.[/QUOTE]


:lol:

Pocket$ $traight 03-01-2006 10:16 PM

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]:lol:[/QUOTE]

Good point GoSkins. Matty didn't realize that we would save about 30 grand by cutting Brunell outright.

SouperMeister 03-01-2006 10:27 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]I would make the cuts and sacrifice for 2006. Then I would sign every free agent that gibbs wants (and every player from the U) and pay all of the bonuses in 2007. I would also restructure every contract to get every single dollar possible paid in 2007. Then I would enjoy the football version of the Yankees for the next decade.[/QUOTE]

Reaper, I'll do you one better. Instead of wholesale cuts, Snyder should restructure all large contracts and pay large, GUARANTEED base salaries for 2007 in lieu of bonus money. Bonuses would be prorated over multiple seasons while guaranteed base salaries would only count against the uncapped 2007 season. Snyder is one of the few owners with enough cash to guarantee many high base salaries for one season, and still make payroll.

Pocket$ $traight 03-01-2006 10:30 PM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
[QUOTE=SouperMeister]Reaper, I'll do you one better. Instead of wholesale cuts, Snyder should restructure all large contracts and pay large, GUARANTEED base salaries for 2007 in lieu of bonus money. Bonuses would be prorated over multiple seasons while guaranteed base salaries would only count against the uncapped 2007 season. Snyder is one of the few owners with enough cash to guarantee many high base salaries for one season, and still make payroll.[/QUOTE]

The only problem with that is if they have a career ending/changing injury. Then you would have paid them all that money for one (or a partial) year.

MTK 03-01-2006 10:30 PM

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Can we still cut Brunell??

GoSkins! 03-01-2006 10:30 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]Good point GoSkins. Matty didn't realize that we would save about 30 grand by cutting Brunell outright.[/QUOTE]

I think that Matty realized. I was laughing at the sarcasm.:)

GoSkins! 03-01-2006 10:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Can we still cut Brunell??[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think that he waited to long to restructure.
He needs to be shown the door. I mean, didn't anyone else get it when STisG made the point in the now famous "Brunnel is Bad" thread?

SouperMeister 03-01-2006 10:43 PM

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]The only problem with that is if they have a career ending/changing injury. Then you would have paid them all that money for one (or a partial) year.[/QUOTE]

True, but paying large, guaranteed base salaries in '07 would have no impact on future capped seasons, even with a career ending injury. The only impact would be on the Danny's expenses in later years, assuming my suggested restructurings with large guaranteed bases for '07, and much smaller salaries for '06, and '08 and beyond. Guaranteed contracts present a loophole in an uncapped year that only the richest of owners would dare consider.

Pocket$ $traight 03-01-2006 11:09 PM

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You are right. I just don't see it happening. There would be no incentive for them to stay in shape or even step on the field again. If they couldn't manage the cap after lumping every signing bonus in one year they should just give it up.

That Guy 03-02-2006 04:22 AM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
[QUOTE=SouperMeister]Reaper, I'll do you one better. Instead of wholesale cuts, Snyder should restructure all large contracts and pay large, GUARANTEED base salaries for 2007 in lieu of bonus money. Bonuses would be prorated over multiple seasons while guaranteed base salaries would only count against the uncapped 2007 season. Snyder is one of the few owners with enough cash to guarantee many high base salaries for one season, and still make payroll.[/QUOTE]

30% rule prevents that.

onlydarksets 03-02-2006 07:01 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy]30% rule prevents that.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you need to change your signature to:
"The answer to your question is that the 30% rule prevents it."
;)

That Guy 03-02-2006 07:53 AM

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]Dude, you need to change your signature to:
"The answer to your question is that the 30% rule prevents it."
;)[/QUOTE]

"and cutting brunell won't save cap space" :)

Hog1 03-02-2006 07:55 AM

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Hmmmmmmmmm "That 30% Guy" ? Noooooooot bad

jermus22 03-02-2006 08:39 AM

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:offtopic: Just wondering something: with Trevor Pryce on the market, would it be practical to cut both Daniels and Wynn to pick up Pryce. We could start him and Evans at DE with Boschetti backing them up. I don't know if we could save a lot (or any) money against the cap, but it's just an idea. Any thoughts?

That Guy 03-02-2006 09:00 AM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
[QUOTE=jermus22]:offtopic: Just wondering something: with Trevor Pryce on the market, would it be practical to cut both Daniels and Wynn to pick up Pryce. We could start him and Evans at DE with Boschetti backing them up. I don't know if we could save a lot (or any) money against the cap, but it's just an idea. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]


no cba and no can do. he's been getting 7+mill for a couple years, so he probably wouldn't go for a small contract. evans is unsigned, wants to try free agency and without a new cba, probably won't be back either. Bosch is a DT and lost his #3 spot to killings last year (though killings might be gone too).

pryce is good, but i don't think there's any way he's coming here.

jermus22 03-02-2006 09:08 AM

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Thanks. Looks like we'll end up losing one (or both) of Daniels and Wynn. I like Wynn but Daniels had better production last year.

Master4Caster 03-02-2006 09:35 AM

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[QUOTE=JET]What would I do if I owned the Redskins? I'll tell you what I'd do. Two cheerleaders at the same time.[/QUOTE]

The question was what would you do ..., not [i]who[/i]?

btw, which two cheerleaders???

D'BOYZ 03-02-2006 10:14 AM

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[QUOTE=Master4Caster]Before saying what I would do, here's what I [i]think[/i] I understand about this mess:[list=1][*]Compared to other pro athletes in other sports, pro football players are [i]way[/i] underpaid, especially considering their short careers and risk to health.[/list][/QUOTE]


Well that's because in the NFL you have 53 players in your roster no other pro sport has as many players and also is because the NFL is the only sport with a true CAP. So that prevent the huge contract (kind of because you have M.Vick with a 100 mill contract).

In soccer you have at least 18 players per team, basketball 15, hockey 18, baseball 25, Formula 1 you have 2 per team (this are all estimates I may be wrong by a few), I magine a roster in the NFL with no cap if the Yankees have 230 mill on their players a nfl team would pay 400.

The only thing that's wrong in the NFL is that no contract is warrantied but being in a cap you have to have that in orther to be under the CAP each year imagine all the bust still being payed their complete contracts, Deoin, Bruce Smith, etc..

TheMalcolmConnection 03-02-2006 11:05 AM

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[QUOTE=JET]What would I do if I owned the Redskins? I'll tell you what I'd do. Two cheerleaders at the same time.[/QUOTE]

So you think if you were a millionaire you'd be able to hook that up? I DO know that chicks dig dudes with money.

jdlea 03-02-2006 11:09 AM

Re: If You Owned the Redskins what would you do?
 
[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]So you think if you were a millionaire you'd be able to hook that up? I DO know that chicks dig dudes with money.[/QUOTE]

Not all women are only concerned about money...

JET 03-02-2006 02:32 PM

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[QUOTE=jdlea]Not all women are only concerned about money...[/QUOTE]
The type of chicks that would double up on a dude like me are.

dmek25 03-02-2006 02:46 PM

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hey jet,i like your style


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