Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]its been linked about 8 times now :( its still only like 4 catches replayed 4 times each, some of which are from 2004.[/QUOTE]Play on brotha!

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Isn't this guy basically Rod Gardner, but a little faster? Do we really want 50/50 back?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Seems to be a done deal:

[URL=http://sports.iwon.com/news/03112006/v3954.html]Niners Trade Disgruntled WR Lloyd to Redskins for Draft Picks[/URL]

3rd this year; 4th next. Not so bad, especially if we get a supplemental pick or two.

Anyway, we needed a WR for sure, and since D-mac left, we don't really have an aspiring rapper.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Sirius is also reporting that this trade has been consumated.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]Isn't this guy basically Rod Gardner, but a little faster? Do we really want 50/50 back?[/QUOTE]



i was thinking the same thing. hopefully Lloyd turns out to be a solid #2

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

Does anybody know what kind of cap hit Lloyd is?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=LINEBACKER]Does anybody know what kind of cap hit Lloyd is?[/QUOTE]


they haven't signed him to a contract yet.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=jdlea]Sirius is also reporting that this trade has been consumated.[/QUOTE]

NFL Networks just reported the trade complete as well.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=LINEBACKER]Does anybody know what kind of cap hit Lloyd is?[/QUOTE]

Although we haven't signed him yet, the proposed deal is rumored to be a 5 or 6 year deal with a $10 million signing bonus. So, if I had to guess, we're looking at a contract of about $30 million for 6 years with a $10 million signing bonus.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Although we haven't signed him yet, the proposed deal is rumored to be a 5 or 6 year deal with a $10 million signing bonus. So, if I had to guess, we're looking at a contract of about $30 million for 6 years with a $10 million signing bonus.[/QUOTE]

What did Moss get a year ago????

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]Isn't this guy basically Rod Gardner, but a little faster? Do we really want 50/50 back?[/QUOTE]Why do you think he's like Gardner? Is Randle-El Gardner, only a lot faster? They both were ex-QBs.

Only time will tell.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Although we haven't signed him yet, the proposed deal is rumored to be a 5 or 6 year deal with a $10 million signing bonus. So, if I had to guess, we're looking at a contract of about $30 million for 6 years with a $10 million signing bonus.[/QUOTE]

wow ! that seems a bit steep.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Although we haven't signed him yet, the proposed deal is rumored to be a 5 or 6 year deal with a $10 million signing bonus. So, if I had to guess, we're looking at a contract of about $30 million for 6 years with a $10 million signing bonus.[/QUOTE]

seems reasonable. i doubt his contract will be as undervalued as moss's contract is, but its nice to have guys play below their worth for long periods of time ;).

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=RedskinPete]What did Moss get a year ago????[/QUOTE]

7 years 31$mill with about 10-11mill in guarantees.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=EXoffender]Why do you think he's like Gardner? Is Randle-El Gardner, only a lot faster? They both were ex-QBs.

Only time will tell.[/QUOTE]

he meant cause lloyd drops a lot of balls.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]7 years 31$mill with about 10-11mill in guarantees.[/QUOTE]
Very close to what Lloyd will get right?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=RedskinPete]Very close to what Lloyd will get right?[/QUOTE]

because of the new cba and such, lloyd will actually get a bigger contract than santana in all likelyhood. It'll probably average 5$mill a year vs moss's 4.5$mill per.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Two mid round picks for a RFA?

Pretty good deal for the Skins if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

Especially considering most draft analysts have rated this year's WR crop one of the worst in recent memory, and the number of "hot" FA WR is practically nil.

I don't see how we could not get our money's worth out of this deal. He can't get *worse* coming to Washington, unless he's just so used to making fingertip one-handed circus catches that he's unable to play in a normal offense.

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=That Guy]because of the new cba and such, lloyd will actually get a bigger contract than santana in all likelyhood. It'll probably average 5$mill a year vs moss's 4.5$mill per.[/QUOTE]

My concern is that Moss will look at his contract, look at Lloyd's, look at his stats, look at Lloyd's, realize that he's the #1 whereas Lloyd is the #2, and say ... where the hell is my damned new contract?

Re: Compensation for Lloyd
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]My concern is that Moss will look at his contract, look at Lloyd's, look at his stats, look at Lloyd's, realize that he's the #1 whereas Lloyd is the #2, and say ... where the hell is my damned new contract?[/QUOTE]

I think one of the side benefits of this whole character before talent rant thing the skins are on is that people just don't complain about much. sean taylor's value over his contract is EXTREME compared to moss (unless taylor makes the pro bowl, which he will). But you have to remember, contracts increase by about 5% a year (more this year due to the cba increase).

moss laid down 8$mill worth of production last year for nearly nothing (1.5mill base salary), if he just that this year as well, than taking the hit for coles in addition to his contract would look like a bargain (moreso than it does thusfar that is).