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dgack 03-12-2006 12:58 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Please stop talking about the wizards its bad karma. :nono:[/QUOTE]

I don't even know who that is. I'm a Bullets fan.

That Guy 03-12-2006 01:05 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=dgack]Just think of all the crappy big man projects Lez Boulez / Tha Wiz have botched. I'm not sure it's metaphysically possible for us to have a real big man. Call it the Unseld Hex!

And haven't you heard? There's a shortage of big men in the NBA because they all go play tight end in the NFL...[/QUOTE]

starting TE -> under 2mill a year.
Shaq -> 30mill a year.

kinda makes you wonder.

RedskinPete 03-12-2006 05:51 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=dgack]I don't even know who that is. I'm a Bullets fan.[/QUOTE]

Man was that the PC thing to do from changing the name!!!! :Flush:

ParkerGibbs 03-12-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=STPainmaker]Please stop talking about the wizards its bad karma. :nono:[/QUOTE]

seriously. basketball sucks, and especially the wizards. :offtopic: can we please get back to pretending randel el is coming to DC?

Hail2em 03-12-2006 10:38 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[b]Bears | No visit planned for Randle El[/b]
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:38:37 -0800

Mike Mulligan, of the [URL=http://www.kffl.com/link/149]Chicago Sun-Times[/URL], reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/color][/url] do not have a visit planned with free agent WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1549/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Antwaan Randle El[/color][/url] (Steelers) as previously reported.

ParkerGibbs 03-12-2006 10:55 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=Hail2em][b]Bears | No visit planned for Randle El[/b]
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:38:37 -0800

Mike Mulligan, of the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/149"]Chicago Sun-Times[/url], reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/color][/url] do not have a visit planned with free agent WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1549/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Antwaan Randle El[/color][/url] (Steelers) as previously reported.[/QUOTE]

yesssssssss, if this happens it will make my offseason...as soon as Ramsey is gone.

Pocket$ $traight 03-12-2006 11:02 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=ParkerGibbs]yesssssssss, if this happens it will make my offseason...as soon as Ramsey is gone.[/QUOTE]

I think they are in pretty good shape at wideout now (2 #1s). Do all of the Randel-El seekers want him for punt returning?

RiggoRules 03-12-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=Hail2em][b]Bears | No visit planned for Randle El[/b]
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 06:38:37 -0800

Mike Mulligan, of the [url="http://www.kffl.com/link/149"]Chicago Sun-Times[/url], reports the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/color][/url] do not have a visit planned with free agent WR [url="http://www.kffl.com/player/1549/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Antwaan Randle El[/color][/url] (Steelers) as previously reported.[/QUOTE]

It's interesting. Every time someone on the Skins radar is contacted by another team, lots of people on this board start to freak out.

It is kind of like being in a bar and the hot chick you have your eye on is getting hit on by someone else. Maybe she's even engaged to somebody else.

So long as she isn't married, Danny doesn't care. He doesn't get himself a drink and go to hide in the corner or decide to go hit on her fat friend. No, he goes and buys her a drink and walks right up to her like "Nolan" or "Romeo" aren't even there and sweeps her off her feet.

Snyder has taken a great deal of smack since he bought this team. But make no mistake about it, this time of the year he is the best owner in the NFL. He is a total pimp gangster stud.

jdlea 03-12-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]I think they are in pretty good shape at wideout now (2 #1s). Do all of the Randel-El seekers want him for punt returning?[/QUOTE]

I think that would be the best reason to bring him. Right now, I don't know what Brandon Lloyd is going to be. I'm not sure if I should expect #1 numbers from him or he could even end up being our #3 if we add Randle El. I think the biggest reason to bring him in is his versatility and his return ability.

9erman 03-12-2006 11:12 AM

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I hope you know the 9ers entered the Randle El war as well :)

SUNRA 03-12-2006 11:17 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
If and when Randle El is signed by us, Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are gone. If David Patten looks bad in training camp he'll be on the next bus out of D.C. too.
I see the Redskins picking up a WR in the Draft if Andre Carter is signed. There are going to be some left in the second round that will help us out tremendously.

RiggoRules 03-12-2006 11:24 AM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper]I think they are in pretty good shape at wideout now (2 #1s). Do all of the Randel-El seekers want him for punt returning?[/QUOTE]

Why I want to see him is that it is another playmaker on the offense. We've got big time problems at QB. Upgrading at WR is a less expensive way to impact our passing game. If he brings special teams and gadget plays, that's a bonus.

REL and BLloyd are not super stars. But in the big picture, the sum will be greater than the parts.

MTK 03-12-2006 12:14 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
We've got big time problems at QB??

Isn't that inflating things just a tad?

hooskins 03-12-2006 12:28 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
I really think this whole thing is going to be interesting. Right now we are on some crazy kind of rush to get ever WR we see, because last season we had a huge WR depth problem. I agree Jacobs will definately be gone, but we are still going to have Trash and Patten. So this makes Moss, Lloyd, Trash, Patten. I feel that Patten won't do well at camp, and hes heading out too. But that still leaves us with a similar problem as last year, one good reciever, and a bunch of ify ones. It would be great to have Randle El, but then I worried its going to cause a whole bunch of problems, with two great recievers(Moss and him), and one who thinks he is beyond great(Lloyd).

[QUOTE=SUNRA]If and when Randle El is signed by us, Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are gone. If David Patten looks bad in training camp he'll be on the next bus out of D.C. too.
I see the Redskins picking up a WR in the Draft if Andre Carter is signed. There are going to be some left in the second round that will help us out tremendously.[/QUOTE]

steveo395 03-12-2006 12:49 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[b]Bears | Randle El rejects team's offer[/b]
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:47:18 -0800

Ed Bouchette, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, reports free agent WR [color=#0000ff]Antwaan Randle El[/color] (Steelers) has rejected a contract offer from the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/color][/url]. His agent is still in contact with the team to keep talks open.

we better not end up overpaying for him if we get him

hooskins 03-12-2006 12:51 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
Do we know the specifics of the offer?

[QUOTE=steveo395][b]Bears | Randle El rejects team's offer[/b]
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:47:18 -0800

Ed Bouchette, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, reports free agent WR [color=#0000ff]Antwaan Randle El[/color] (Steelers) has rejected a contract offer from the [url="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][color=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/color][/url]. His agent is still in contact with the team to keep talks open.

we better not end up overpaying for him if we get him[/QUOTE]

SmootSmack 03-12-2006 01:02 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
I heard it was something like 5 years, 20 million with a $7 million signing bonus. Apparently, the sticking point is that Randle El wants a a 6-year deal, like they gave Muhsin Muhammad last off-season

RiggoRules 03-12-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]We've got big time problems at QB??

Isn't that inflating things just a tad?[/QUOTE]

No. Here is why: [b]The passing game is why the Seahawks were in the Super Bowl and the Skins were watching at home.[/b]

Campbell may be the second coming of Joe Montana or Heath Shuler. We don't have a clue. He has yet to fire a regular season NFL pass in anger.

Brunell had some great games this past season. Unfortunately, as the year wore on, the Skins were winning in spite of him, not because of him.

For the season, we ranked 19th in terms of YPG passing with 194/YPG. Most of that yardage was in the first half of the season. In the post season, it was 127/YPG. Upgrading the passing game is essential if the Skins are going to build on what they have going from last year.

SmootSmack 03-12-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
The following quote is from an article in today's Chicago Sun-Times:

"Randle El visited the Redskins, while the Bears were compiling a list of other possibilities to fill their need for a return specialist."

That has me thinking that maybe Randle El's concern may not be the money so much in Chicago but what his role will be. Maybe he's upset that they apparently don't see him first and foremost as a primary (or secondary) WR. Of course, now that we have Lloyd this could make the Redskins less appealing to Randle El as well.

steveo395 03-12-2006 01:16 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=RiggoRules]No. Here is why: [b]The passing game is why the Seahawks were in the Super Bowl and the Skins were watching at home.[/b]

Campbell may be the second coming of Joe Montana or Heath Shuler. We don't have a clue. He has yet to fire a regular season NFL pass in anger.

Brunell had some great games this past season. Unfortunately, as the year wore on, the Skins were winning in spite of him, not because of him.

For the season, we ranked 19th in terms of YPG passing with 194/YPG. Most of that yardage was in the first half of the season. In the post season, it was 127/YPG. Upgrading the passing game is essential if the Skins are going to build on what they have going from last year.[/QUOTE]
some of it was playcalling and not having any receivers with moss and cooley

it wasn't all the qbs fault

Pocket$ $traight 03-12-2006 01:27 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=hooskins]I really think this whole thing is going to be interesting. Right now we are on some crazy kind of rush to get ever WR we see, because last season we had a huge WR depth problem. I agree Jacobs will definately be gone, but we are still going to have Trash and Patten. So this makes Moss, Lloyd, Trash, Patten. I feel that Patten won't do well at camp, and hes heading out too. But that still leaves us with a similar problem as last year, one good reciever, and a bunch of ify ones. It would be great to have Randle El, but then I worried its going to cause a whole bunch of problems, with two great recievers(Moss and him), and one who thinks he is beyond great(Lloyd).[/QUOTE]

Granted, I am the first to disagree with some of his annoying comments but I really think that you cannot judge him on one year where he was hurt.

RiggoRules 03-12-2006 01:34 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=steveo395]some of it was playcalling and not having any receivers with moss and cooley

it wasn't all the qbs fault[/QUOTE]

I can't recall saying it was all on Brunell. What I have said and stand by is that Brunell's performance declined as the year went on (Exhibit A is the SEA playoff game). Go back and take a look. His performance was not the kind of performance the team needed with that much at stake. I have also said that this is a team game and that by making an upgrade at WR we get an improvement the passing game for less money than an upgrade at QB will cost.

steveo395 03-12-2006 01:41 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=RiggoRules]I can't recall saying it was all on Brunell. What I have said and stand by is that Brunell's performance declined as the year went on (Exhibit A is the SEA playoff game). Go back and take a look. His performance was not the kind of performance the team needed with that much at stake. I have also said that this is a team game and that by making an upgrade at WR we get an improvement the passing game for less money than an upgrade at QB will cost.[/QUOTE]
I know brunell started to get bad at the end of the year when he got hurt in the giant game...and he did bad in a few games before that, but i dont think we have big problems at qb. Brunell is good at times and we have campbell (hopefully he'll be ready soon)

hooskins 03-12-2006 01:45 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
Yeah no need to get into the whole Brunell thing again, we all know thats gonna start as soon as training camp kicks off. I think we can all agree that Brunell is declining and we may have to worry about that, but we are def in better shape than the last several years, atleast in respect to QB position.

That Guy 03-12-2006 04:45 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
[QUOTE=SUNRA]If and when Randle El is signed by us, Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash are gone. If David Patten looks bad in training camp he'll be on the next bus out of D.C. too.
I see the Redskins picking up a WR in the Draft if Andre Carter is signed. There are going to be some left in the second round that will help us out tremendously.[/QUOTE]

CB #3, OL backup (cause good FA OL cost 2mill-4mill a year), DT before we use the 2nd on a WR.

That Guy 03-12-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Randle EL to the Bears????
 
maybe he didn't like the bears offense/QB situation or he didn't think a $7mill SB was high enough (i think he wants 10$mill).


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