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That Guy 04-15-2006 05:14 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=Monksdown]I agree. But I remind myself that i feel about Antwaan now, how I felt about Santana last year before the season got going. If anything, comparing the two before last season you could argue that Antwaan had more upside. With his special team prowess and Moss' reputation as a malingerer.[/quote]

I don't see how El could have more upside, he's never had more than 600-some yards a season, moss had a 1100 and 800 yard year before coming here.

Monksdown 04-15-2006 06:16 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
At the time, a lot of us were skeptical of the trade. That's my main point. And the injury factor negates the statistical advantage somewhat.

Randle El hype this year vs. Santana Moss hype last year

Drift Reality 04-16-2006 11:27 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I'm not convinced Archuleta is worth a contract that makes him the highest paid safety in the league. He isn't even the best safety on his own team, let along the league. I'd rank him in the second tier of safeties actually.

EXoffender 04-16-2006 03:59 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
Archuleta because of the money. Randle El because of lack of upside.

SmootSmack 04-16-2006 04:06 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
Who said Carter? and why?

skinsgt 04-16-2006 10:18 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I said lloyd but I didn't consider the money that we paid Randle el. I think that that is the least desirable move but i think that they all were pretty good.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-17-2006 11:24 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[QUOTE=ST21]Adam A., all we need is a overrated SS, he has a career high 3 ints, and not because he's feared,...just no hands and I believe john lynch is the last of the good white safteys in the league......i would rather traded for a # of safteys in the league, than pay him the richest contract for a Saftey in History..........[/QUOTE]

Wow! Don't cry racism when people are saying that Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league. Was there any need for that?

That Guy 04-17-2006 11:26 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]...Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league...[/quote]

oh, he went there...

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 11:29 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
And Marcus will be worse if someone actually drafts him.

free21 04-17-2006 12:24 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I would have not signed Archuleta if it allowed us to keep Ryan Clark. Otherwise probably Lloyd because of the uncertainties about him on and off the field.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2006 12:47 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
True. Right now I'm cool with Lloyd just because he seems like he's glad to be part of a winning organization.

EXoffender 04-17-2006 01:28 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha]Wow! Don't cry racism when people are saying that Michael Vick is the most overrated player in the league. Was there any need for that?[/quote]Vick is overrated. And just because I'm black doesn't qualify me to confirm this. We should've traded for Ed Reed for that kind of money.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-17-2006 02:06 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[QUOTE=EXoffender]Vick is overrated. And just because I'm black doesn't qualify me to confirm this. We should've traded for Ed Reed for that kind of money.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure who is the most overrated player. The jury is still out on Vick. When he gets more receivers, we'll see how good he is at throwing the ball.
To be honest, I don't really care since he's not in Burgundy and Gold.

I just think the comments about AA being white were irrelevant and out of line. Just as a Rush Limbaugh statement about McNabb would equally be out of line and plain dumb.

heybigstar 04-17-2006 02:16 PM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=ST21]maybe.....but hell I would had rather went after Ed Reed, he's unhappy in Balitmore and we could had traded a second round and next year future for a real star......Plus Arch is a liability in the passing game.........and he's ok but trust me.....he's no Ed Reed.....[/quote]

Ozzie Newsome denied Ray Lewis quest in 2005 and this year when he asked to be traded. What makes you think he would trade Ed Reed?

Also, where did you hear that Ed Reed was unhappy?

memphisskin 04-19-2006 09:57 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I'm shocked that folks really believe that Randle El or Lloyd has peaked. I mentioned this somewhere else, but don't believe the hype on Randle El's #s. Put it like this, he's 27 and has played in a "run the ball and play defense" system his entire career. I know we want the Skins to sign Pro Bowlers and stars, but after the way Santana played last year is there any reason to doubt Lloyd and Randle El before they've even put on pads?

As for Archuleta, his low interceptions are probably due to him playing at the line of scrimmage so much. I've got him making the 2nd biggest impact, only because if Carter can give us some push off the edge then our linebackers will become even more effective.

RiggoRules 04-19-2006 10:22 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I liked the moves we did make. But if I was king of the world, my first three moves regarding the Skins would have been:
[LIST=1][*]A special metal detector that anyone attending games in Cowboys or Eagles gear would have to go through prior to full cavity search (a policy that all NFL teams should adopt).[*]A full blown retirement of #28 (as well as retirement of other numbers that are "quasi-retired").[*]A significant upgrade at QB. The QB position is the land mine for this season.[/LIST]

That Guy 04-19-2006 10:51 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=memphisskin]I'm shocked that folks really believe that Randle El or Lloyd has peaked. I mentioned this somewhere else, but don't believe the hype on Randle El's #s. Put it like this, he's 27 and has played in a "run the ball and play defense" system his entire career. I know we want the Skins to sign Pro Bowlers and stars, but after the way Santana played last year is there any reason to doubt Lloyd and Randle El before they've even put on pads?
[/quote]

santana showed a lot more than either of those guys though... i just hope people aren't expecting three 1200 yard WRs this year.

RiggoRules 04-19-2006 11:01 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
[quote=That Guy]santana showed a lot more than either of those guys though... i just hope people aren't expecting three 1200 yard WRs this year.[/quote]

Absolutely correct. If the wheels do not come off at the QB position, I'd expect Moss' numbers to go down but for him to still be the number 1 WR and for the total passing offense numbers to go way up.

hail_2_da_skins 04-21-2006 10:51 AM

Re: What move would you have not made if you were GM?
 
I would not have signed Archuleta and thus let Ryan Clark walk. I would have spent a little extra to keep Clark, a solid player, a proven player in the system. I live in St. Louis, so unfortunately I watch too many Rams games. Arch is good at run support and blitzing. He is terrible in space and coverage. He has trouble keeping up with Tight Ends.


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