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I alway's liked AA, he's a big play type of saftey, we have to trust Williams eye for defensive talent that AA will be a significant upgrade over Clark.

Systems many times make the player as well as the technique that they are asked to play on defense, I believe Williams already knows how to use AA and which coverage techniques will best fit his attributes, players always seem to be much better in Williams defense than others, kind of like the old 9er's QB's everyone looked great in thier system, Same thing with Gibbs back in the day he was able to make a run of the mill QB look and play like an all pro, yet these players very rarely did much outside of those systems. Once Lovey Smith left the Rams thier defense went downhill AA still was able to shine. We will no very quickly if he was worth the money compartivly to the production Clark would have brought to the table? I liked Clark a lot but Williams must have seen something significantly better in AA to pay that kind of money and let Clark go. I believe he's right!

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roy willams is on the official santana moss x-mas card list or he shud be

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This article sucks. Ben Roethlisburger is not the most overrated player on the Steelers, Willie Green is. Or Joey Porter. Every other player he named as overrated seems to be a safety that isn't great in coverage, even strong safeties. And if Trent Green is underrated, I guess he deserves an MVP because hes been to the pro bowl.

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I also think that while he was a beast in college, Roy Williams owes Patrick Ramsey some credit for where he is today. He made P-ram look like a fool every time they played.

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[quote=skindogger47]This article sucks. Ben Roethlisburger is not the most overrated player on the Steelers, Willie Green is. Or Joey Porter. Every other player he named as overrated seems to be a safety that isn't great in coverage, even strong safeties. And if Trent Green is underrated, I guess he deserves an MVP because hes been to the pro bowl.[/quote]

Who is Willie Green? I don't think i've ever heard of him.

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i think he meant willie parker, but I hardly believe that ben rothlisburger is overrated, the last time we had a young rookie qb that played as well as rothlisburger i believe his name was tom brady and look at him now.

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I think Big Ben is a bit overrated, he fell into a great system in which he did not have to throw many completions, and therefore less interceptions. But he did come up when he needed to. We will see if Ben is for real real next season as his pass attempts will increase significantly.

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why change to a pass happy offense if what you've got is still working? tommy maddox was total crap in the same system.

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[quote=That Guy]why change to a pass happy offense if what you've got is still working? tommy maddox was total crap in the same system.[/quote]They just dont have the personel to be run-first anymore. They will still run effectively, but only if Big Ben establishes the passing game first.

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You know,

No way Roy makes it as a LB in the 3/4. Too Small. Roy has a good first step and good instincts and he is a Big time Hitter. He isn't an instinctive Coverage Strong Safety.

BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.

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[quote=5RINGS]
BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.[/quote]

You can make that kind of arguement about almost anyone in any team sport, because they are just that, team sports.

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[quote=5RINGS]I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.[/quote]I would think that the loss of Hope is very different than the loss of Darren Woodson. Chris Hope went on the open market, and sat there for a month without even recieving a phone call. Ryan Clark was signed before then, so I have to assume that front offices in general feel that Clark is better.

Roy's game isn't in coverage, but in a divison like the East is this year, he becomes a liability. You may not be able to run on Dallas, but you can throw on them.

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[quote=GTripp0012]They just dont have the personel to be run-first anymore. They will still run effectively, but only if Big Ben establishes the passing game first.[/quote]

I disagree, but we'll see in 2006. Losing bettis but still having a good OL/FB/TE in place to block should be enough to continue running.

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[quote=GTripp0012]I would think that the loss of Hope is very different than the loss of Darren Woodson. Chris Hope went on the open market, and sat there for a month without even recieving a phone call. Ryan Clark was signed before then, so I have to assume that front offices in general feel that Clark is better.[/quote]

I think that's a stretch. clark was way cheaper but still had starting experience. Chris hope was holding out for a much bigger offer than clark got, and he got a lot more money, so i'd argue that's a pretty clear indication of who FO's think i better. the steelers were just going cheap, again.

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Hope did hold out for the large payday that Clark can only dream of.

What I am saying is that We'll see if Polamalu is going to able to freelance as much without a top knotch FS behind him. Hope allowed Troy to roam the box.

I know that Williams isn't Ed Reed in Coverage. But he does bring it in the box. He is a Big Play Safety who gambles in coverage.

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[quote=5RINGS]You know,

No way Roy makes it as a LB in the 3/4. Too Small. Roy has a good first step and good instincts and he is a Big time Hitter. He isn't an instinctive Coverage Strong Safety.

BUT...

If we look at the Roy Williams who had Darren Woodson playing FS and the Roy Williams who had Keith Davis playing FS I think there is a difference. Davis is a first time starter and Roy didn't have the luxury of a quality FS to work with.

I want to see how Mr Polamalu does this year without Chris Hope at FS.[/quote]

I don't know your opinion on the whole Taylor vs. Williams argument, but with that reasoning, it would suggest that Taylor is far superior to Williams in that regard. Taylor has had nothing but below-average overachieving safeties surrounding him.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I don't know your opinion on the whole Taylor vs. Williams argument, but with that reasoning, it would suggest that Taylor is far superior to Williams in that regard. Taylor has had nothing but below-average overachieving safeties surrounding him.[/QUOTE]


I didn't want to go there because I can't say a bad word about Taylor on the field.

Yes he is probably a better FS than Roy is a SS.

The U puts out quality on the field players no doubt.

Mind you if Roy goes into Free agancy and doesn't resign, pairing him with Taylor would be murder in the East.

Dallas might not sign him. He is looking for Ed Reed Money at least is what I have read.



The Skins have been known to give up a few extra dollars for player it felt was needed, and he is in a totally different class than archeuleta.

Could Happen.....

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I have to say, that response moved you up quite a few notches in my book for a Cowboy's fan. Most Cowboys fans pop the biggest boners for him and he has talent without a doubt, but he is far from the Jesus Christ of safety as many a Cowboy fan has anointed him.

Too bad we already signed our Roy Williams in Archuleta.

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i dont know about that one, i dont think i'd like the idea of roy williams in a redskins jersey getting burnt by like terry glenn or another cowboy reciever.

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Terry Glenn will be retired by the time that happens. All of the above being said, I'd rather have Roy over Archuleta coverage-wise. The beauty part of this all is the fact we aren't paying Archuleta to be a coverage safety. He's going to be the Roy Williams of our team. He's there for run stuffing and light coverage duty.

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well speaking of safetys, the next great safety to come from miami is named kenny phillips. Hits like sean talor and can cover like mike huff.

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[quote=number21isabadman]well speaking of safetys, the next great safety to come from miami is named kenny phillips. Hits like sean talor and can cover like mike huff.[/quote]
so hes just sean taylor who can't cover as well?

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Roy might be a SS/LB hybrid that doesn't have a true position.

He does get to the ball in a hurry and brings the wood when he gets there. I would be tempted to use him as a 3rd down Prevent LB.

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HAHA! 5RINGS I read your sig and I just can't help but have images of Drew and TO sharing a joint in a "Friday"-like setting.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]HAHA! 5RINGS I read your sig and I just can't help but have images of Drew and TO sharing a joint in a "Friday"-like setting.[/quote]

Or drew giving 2 gonorrhea.

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I wonder what inzone dance t.o. will be having drew bledsoe perform in the first couple of weeks in dallas, i heard reports that he is favorable to the one where drew gets on all fours and t.o. comes from behind and gives him the bull dance. brokeback was bad enough, now were going to have to witness this love fest on the football field for at least a couple games.

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In all seriousness, will t.o. stand in the middle of the star [I]IF[/I] he ever scores a TD in dallas? And if he does, will the fickle fans cheer for him?

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz]In all seriousness, will t.o. stand in the middle of the star [I]IF[/I] he ever scores a TD in dallas? And if he does, will the fickle fans cheer for him?[/QUOTE]

Of course He Will, AND Of course they will!!

like any fan of any team sport,they will love him if he can produce!!!

San Francisco STILL loves Barry Bonds!!!

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[quote=5RINGS]Of course He Will, AND Of course they will!!

like any fan of any team sport,they will love him if he can produce!!!

San Francisco STILL loves Barry Bonds!!![/quote]

Yeah but Bonds plays in San Fran and he never insulted their entire franchise, TWICE (3 times if you want to count the 'little star' incident). I would be very torn if we had signed him.

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[quote=Mattyk72]Finally someone calls this guy out for what he is... extremely overrated!

Big hitter, but he stinks in coverage.

Exhibit A:
[IMG]http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/nfl/img9542770.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Wait a minute, that sounds quite a bit like your boy Adam Archuleta doesn't it? Roy may be bad in coverage but Archuleta is just as bad if not worse and he doesn't hit as hard. What an idiotic post when one of your players is the same way.

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I've got some news for you jackass. It's not wise to come in and make that your first post. I have a feeling you'll be taking an untimely vacation.

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[quote=ArchuletaRandle El?PLEASE]Wait a minute, that sounds quite a bit like your boy Adam Archuleta doesn't it? Roy may be bad in coverage but Archuleta is just as bad if not worse and he doesn't hit as hard. What an idiotic post when one of your players is the same way.[/quote]

I also think we made it adamantly clear above as well that we don't EXPECT him to be the cover safety. We expect him to HIT. Also, learn how to spell "Fore" if you're going to even attempt to insult people. It makes you look even more retarded than you already do.

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YEAH , not a real good idea just to come in here talking shit right off the bat.

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More than anything I'm entertained to see that people have less of a life than I do where they ACTUALLY register on another team's site simply to talk shit. It's JUST football. I can imagine this guy sitting there with his pants off and a TO-jersey spank rag.

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[quote=ArchuletaRandle El?PLEASE]Wait a minute, that sounds quite a bit like your boy Adam Archuleta doesn't it? Roy may be bad in coverage but Archuleta is just as bad if not worse and he doesn't hit as hard. What an idiotic post when one of your players is the same way.[/quote]

I remember that around this time last year people said the Skins were dumb for signing Santana because he wasn't that good. Care to take another look at that picture?

Maybe Archuleta just needs a change of scenery.

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I know huh, what the hells a d bag boy doing here anyway i thought it was skin fans only, ArchuletaRandle El?PLEASE my friend had only one thing o say to you and i quote " is sean taylor gonna have to choke a bitch" end quote.

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[quote=ArchuletaRandle El?PLEASE]Wait a minute, that sounds quite a bit like your boy Adam Archuleta doesn't it? Roy may be bad in coverage but Archuleta is just as bad if not worse and he doesn't hit as hard. What an idiotic post when one of your players is the same way.[/quote]
well he hasn't played in gregg williams system yet so you have no idea...everybody on the rams defense sucked