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hahaha

i was hoping the mood would lighten, political debates never end well or end period...

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[quote=irish]TV networks pay the NFL to put it on so that does not cost the team anything. Same with concessions. As for stadiums they cost the taxpayer money, not the teams.[/quote]

sorry, wrong. synder/cook paid for this stadium in full. In fact, synder still owes about 350$million on it... how the **** is that free? concessions definately cost the team money, the fact that they make it back doesn't mean otherwise.

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The Squire was likely the last owner to build himself a stadium. In most other places, like Pittsburgh, the taxpayer got the bill. As for concessions, the team in most cases gets all the revenue without the risk because the stadium authority contracts with the supplier. Same for parking. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

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[QUOTE=Hail2theskins]i realize all of this i was just saying i wish it was different which goes into where our values have gone to in this country, such as someone catching a football is paid more than the leader of the free worldbut im really not going to get into all that, i understand how business works in our economy, i was simply saying that i believe professional athletes are tremondously overpaid for what they do, and i dont buy the "they can only play for so long" crap so many of them dish out because everyone of them could have obtained a college degree virtually free of charge due to their athletic ability and still come out better off than a lot of people in the world...[/QUOTE]


This has been true since the dawn of civilization. In Rome, a top gladiator was paid 15 times more than a typical Roman citizen. Screwed up then and still screwed up today.

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[quote=irish]This has been true since the dawn of civilization. In Rome, a top gladiator was paid 15 times more than a typical Roman citizen. Screwed up then and still screwed up today.[/quote]

and a single loss resulted in death. considering that, it's kind of hard to argue or draw parallels.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]and a single loss resulted in death. considering that, it's kind of hard to argue or draw parallels.[/QUOTE]

Its easy to parallel, gladiators were the athletes of their time like our athletes today. Both making lots of $. Fights to the death were rather uncommon (despite what hollywood shows) because popular gladiators were stars that fans wanted to see again.

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[quote=irish]Its easy to parallel, gladiators were the athletes of their time like our athletes today. Both making lots of $. Fights to the death were rather uncommon (despite what hollywood shows) because popular gladiators were stars that fans wanted to see again.[/quote]

how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.

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Wow, totally came in at the end of this one! LOL

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Where am I?

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[QUOTE=That Guy]how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.[/QUOTE]


I dont think I said its the same, at least I dont see a post where I did. All I said was athletes in Roman times were paid a lot more than regular people and athletes in our time are paid a lot more than regular people. Top athletes have always been paid more than regular people.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]how many pro athletes risk death based on the whims of king/emperor/etc?

last i check the answer was none. a lot of those fighting in arenas were also slaves. How many slaves our on your team's MLB roster? it's not nearly the same.[/QUOTE]


I dont think I said its the same, at least I dont see a post where I did. All I said was athletes in Roman times were paid a lot more than regular people and athletes in our time are paid a lot more than regular people. Top athletes have always been paid more than regular people.

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I don't care the price of a ticket at face value. There is some sort of system that says, if the customer pays this amount, we can afford to provide a quality product. But scalpers do piss me off, and so does StubHub. They are helping legitimize the art of scalping. Case in point: Jimmy Buffett. Only area show (Nissan 8/3) sold out in less than 20 minutes (as I got on with an operator at 10:18 on a just about dead cell phone and it was already sold out). By noon, lawn seats that cost $36 were on eBay and StubHub for $100+.

Perhaps I should start a service at which the most you'll ever pay for a ticket is face value. Are there enough honest people out there that are just looking to regain the money put into the ticket without going over board?

As far as the Skins, I've been on the season ticket list for a few years now, and my biggest concern will be being able to afford them when I finally get called. But until then, I'm content going when I can, and watching them at home. I figure for the cost of one ticket, I can pretty much booze and feed a group of 4 pretty easily, 8 if we stretch it and drink cheap beer.

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Well, the way these companies like StubHub and Ticketmaster get around the law is to sell you the ticket at face value and the rest of the overcharge is considered a "service fee" for them obtaining and mailing the ticket to you.

It still isn't right though, legal (by a loophole) or not.

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scalping is scalping, regardless of the wording. there might be a time in our lifetime where the ordinary joe and his family just cant afford to go