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[QUOTE=MightyJoeGibbs;208848]I fucking hope so. That positive talk doesnt absorb for 95 hours. I need a freaking tampon when they show crap like that.
So Ill be on the rag for a few sorry guys, its how Im made.[/QUOTE]

I'm the same way, watcthing this shit tonight was heart wrenching.

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You'll find that I crack under pressure and jump off cliffs everytime.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;208849]It's still just the preseason. Let's revisit this thread in a month or so and see where we stand then.[/QUOTE]


Not to sound unsupportive of the team, but I usually don't make much of an effort to watch preseason games for this very reason. I don't like watchin' my team lose, let alone a butt kickin'...to get worked up over it. I realize that the preseason games are made to workon fundamentals and to establish depth. I'd rather the team make their worst mistakes in preseason so that they play smart in week one.

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[quote=skinsguy;208852]Not to sound unsupportive of the team, but I usually don't make much of an effort to watch preseason games for this very reason. I don't like watchin' my team lose, let alone a butt kickin'...to get worked up over it. I realize that the preseason games are made to workon fundamentals and to establish depth. I'd rather the team make their worst mistakes in preseason so that they play smart in week one.[/quote]

I totally agree. I'm not going to even bother watching the re-air tomorrow. #1 because there's not much to watch obviously, and #2 it's a preseason game. Not worth getting all crazy over that's for sure. Call me in two weeks and I'll be interested.

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Glad I didn't watch this one... gonna pretend it never happened.

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Sorry I missed it.

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Not to worry...
There is a new fiesta in the making...

Spurrier looked awesome in preseason, Springsteen is a real person. Most musicians these days aren't.

In Gibbs ultimately we trust.
If we can't show against Minnesota I'll start to worry.
I will say that Duckett on Madden runs over people. My online league gave him a 4pt BTK bump; 98 BTK, SICK!!!

GO REDSKINS!!!
Don't give up yet!

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[quote=Luxorreb;208870]Not to worry...
There is a new fiesta in the making...

Spurrier looked awesome in preseason, Springsteen is a real person. Most musicians these days aren't.

In Gibbs ultimately we trust.
If we can't show against Minnesota I'll start to worry.
I will say that Duckett on Madden runs over people. My online league gave him a 4pt BTK bump; 98 BTK, SICK!!!

GO REDSKINS!!!
Don't give up yet![/quote]
Thats true...what team that had a great preseason do u know that did well in the season?? Didnt the browns do well in preseaon and have like a 2-14 season once!

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[quote=skinsguy;208846]You guys need to calm down......seriously....how many sucky NFL teams have a great preseason only to go something like 2-14 during the regular season. getting a butt kickin' like this in PREseason is a blessing in disguise. This team WILL NOT take that type of butt whoopin' in the regular season. You'll know I'm right.[/quote]
I dont hope ur right I fuckin pray ur right lol.......cause I cant take no more of these fuckers on my campus ESPECIALLY THE COWBOY FANS THAT ARENT EVEN DIE HARD UGH!...........Not only that.......I wanna make my professor have to wear a Santanna moss jersey to class the day after the skins vs cowgirls game!

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Why the heck would I be worried? It's STILL the preseason. Still. Will be next week too.

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the one thing that does have me alittle worried is the way our offensive line was manhandled. i thought duckett was the lone bright spot

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"Good thing is that we are in this together" - Coach Gibbs

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campbell was pretty good i thought

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Our offense looked absolutely lost and our much feared deffense looked like a high school team trying to play against a professional team. Truly pathetic!

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[quote=pg86;208872]Thats true...what team that had a great preseason do u know that did well in the season?? Didnt the browns do well in preseaon and have like a 2-14 season once![/quote]

I know you probably don't want to hear this, but in the 3 Super Bowl years the Cowboys had in the 90's, they lost all of the preseason games 2 of the 3 years.

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we need a punter. i can punt better than both frost and lonie. they both suck ass. i think i going to try out for punter and be the next vince papale. watch for it!

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I think we're in good company... Last season there was a team that was manhandled all season, Including a 38-0 whooping from the Bengals. That team ended up going 14-2 last year. You may know them as the Colts.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;208849]It's still just the preseason. Let's revisit this thread in a month or so and see where we stand then.[/QUOTE]


I'll bet you're correct because all it takes is one win and we can all foxhole together again. I read over 300 post on the game thread early this morning and only three were more than two lines, and one of them had nothing to do with football. I'm going to try and remain positive because in reality I have no other choice. Right now there's not a great deal to say that is not negative but that will change.

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Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh, panic, PANIC, P A N I C!!!!!!!!!

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The above is the general concensus around here, all the "fire Saunders" stuff, get a grip guys!

Did last nights loss knock us out of contention to make the playoffs? NO Would winning it put us in contention to make the playoffs? NO
What? You mean those games don't count?

Preseason MEANS NOTHING, if we won 77-0 it still would have meant NOTHING! The first time anything counts is against the Vikes.
All these people calling for Saunders head ... will be the first ones calling him a genius when we light it up in the reg season.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;208912]I know you probably don't want to hear this, but in the 3 Super Bowl years the Cowboys had in the 90's, they lost all of the preseason games 2 of the 3 years.[/quote]
No thats good to know ....and dont worry I know ur not like the raiders and broncs fans out here that wanna fight each other..We skins and cowboys fans have class am I right?

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[quote=kingerock;208935]I think we're in good company... Last season there was a team that was manhandled all season, Including a 38-0 whooping from the Bengals. That team ended up going 14-2 last year. You may know them as the Colts.[/quote]
AMEN!

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Ok, after taking a deep breath, here's what I think:

Not time to panic yet. Never panic based on preseason games. BUT, I am worried and I think that anyone who's a fan would have to have some worries or they're fooling themselves. What has me most worried is that, with each game, our play has gotten progessively worse. I was really surprised by the showing last night. I don't care about winning or losing preseason games, but the way that the ENTIRE team played was shocking to me. Especially after the coaches made such a big deal about their anger after preseason game 2.

I do have one theory, however lame it may be. I think that the slew of starter injuries has the remaining starters playing soft. I really think this is affectingy their mental attitude and it's certainly understandable.

Having said that, Portis truly is the key to our offense. We've just got to get him back by game 1. I have never been a big Brunell fan and am very disappointed in his play, so far. I think this offense's strength will remain the running game, until Campbell comes of age and is our starter. Brunell just doesn't have what it takes to make the best use of all of those good receivers we now have.

I'm still not too worried about the "D". I feel they will come out swinging. Don't forget that 3 of the "D's" starters are injured and that has to have an effect on their overall play. When Griffin and Daniels are back, our rush will improve and we won't have to rely on so many safety blitzes to pressure the QB. Don't know when to expect Springs back, but his loss is obviously very tough too.

As to special teams - a major worry for me. Our kicking game is very questionable and was last year too. Yet, no effort made to improve it, it seems, unless Lonie suddenly takes off and wins the punter job.

Guess I'm still in shock that the starters on offense still have yet to score a point in 3 games. There's just no way to overlook or sugarcoat that. Without Portis, this offense is in trouble.

So, we have 2 weeks left to hope that, at least, Portis, Griffin and Daniels are ready for the opening night game. Springs will probably be out longer.

Again, not ready to panic at all, but very disappointed and concerned.

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[quote=SantanaMan;208983]Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhh, panic, PANIC, P A N I C!!!!!!!!!

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The above is the general concensus around here, all the "fire Saunders" stuff, get a grip guys!

Did last nights loss knock us out of contention to make the playoffs? NO Would winning it put us in contention to make the playoffs? NO
What? You mean those games don't count?

Preseason MEANS NOTHING, if we won 77-0 it still would have meant NOTHING! The first time anything counts is against the Vikes.
All these people calling for Saunders head ... will be the first ones calling him a genius when we light it up in the reg season.[/quote]For those of you that are struggling to understand this concept must first understand that the entire complexity of the game changes come week one. Expierence is so important in the NFL, yet in the preseason, it will not have ANY effect on the outcome. This is because of the way the game is played. Vanilla, structured. A team of 40 very talented rookies would likely go 4-0 in the preseason, and something like 5-11 in the regular season. It's just the nature of the game.

I firmly believe there is NOTHING that can be learned from a preseason football game from a fans perspective. Not to say that it's not important to the players. It is. But the game they are playing in August isn't the same they will be playing come September. "Team Chemisty" is a factor, but a highly overrated one. If the coaching staff can best utilize their talent, thats chemistry enough. Obviously, Saunders has great confidence in his system if he's not even going to practice it in the preseason.

We will easily learn more about this team on September 11 than we have in the month in a half that preceeded it combined. Even so, it will be about midseason before we can accurately judge this team to see if they have met expectations.

If 8 games into the year, Brunell is hurting this team, come back to me and I'll jump on the Jason Campbell bandwagon.

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Here's my new theory that's keeping me from drawing a warm bath, drinking a bottle of Tuaca, and cutting my wrists.

This team was way too full of themselves in camp. David Patten said that for the first time since he was with the New England Patriots he feels his team is going to the Super Bowl. Even the normally taciturn Mark Brunell said "Anything short of going all the way would be a disappointment."

Talent is only part of the equation. There wasn't the hunger the coaching staff expected, and they have called games specifically to humble their players. In game one, Williams left his CBs on an island, and let them get killed. On Friday, Saunders called almost exclusively three step drops with minimum protection for Brunell.

The coaching staff wants the team to know that they will have nothing handed to them, and that they have to be ready to fight. They learned that last year when they lost three straight, two to teams out of the playoffs. There won't be the chance to learn that lesson in November this year.

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I want to think that as well, but do you really think the coaches would do that at the risk of letting them lose a lot of their swagger and confidence?

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You're right, Brud. The intangibles like leadership, motivation and desire have to be cultivated. I think the 'Skins coaching staff is relatively comfortable with our players from talent or skill level perspective but this pre-season seems more about focusing on evaluating each players commitment to the team. I haven't heard one player grumble and complain about how bad the coaching staff is and you know someone at sometime would want to let something slip to the press.

Here's the question: Since most final pre-season games have the starters play only a limited amount, what will the 'Skins do? It would be nice to go into the pre-season knowing that John Hall has enough left in the leg to ick an extra point.

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This is preseason junk football. By week 4 you will know if this team sucks until then there is no need to get excited.