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GhettoDogAllStars 11-03-2006 12:06 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Hey D'Boyz,
Hess just has a crush on brunell ... don't read into it anymore than that ;)

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:08 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=RedskinRat;238238]Has Sean Taylor met Tony Romo yet?

Poor Romo......[/quote]

TO is afarid of ST... it cracks me up the way he tries to avoid him... haha...

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:08 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Although I never wish on players sitting out, I am kinda looking forward to this game bc the fact Brunell does not have Moss. I want to see if he is only gonna throw to Cooley and Betts, or if he is gonna mix it up.

Plus I think you guys are forgetting Patten and Trash. Atleast Trash will be active, and Brunell has shown that he can throw to Trash about 5 times a year.

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:10 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238244]TO is afarid of ST... it cracks me up the way he tries to avoid him... haha...[/quote]

Most definately. I would have to go and dig up the stats, which I am too lazy to do. But I think T.O. as an Eagle and this year as a Cowboy has had some of his worst games ever, statistically. I don't know if it is the scheme we run agaisnt him, or just luck, but I would like to think it is the former.

I do not remember how he did agaisnt us when he was on the niners, does anyone else know?

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:11 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hooskins;238245]Although I never wish on players sitting out, I am kinda looking forward to this game bc the fact Brunell does not have Moss. I want to see if he is only gonna throw to Cooley and Betts, or if he is gonna mix it up.

Plus I think you guys are forgetting Patten and Trash. Atleast Trash will be active, and Brunell has shown that he can throw to Trash about 5 times a year.[/quote]

Are you calling him "Trash" on purpose?? Or do you mean Thrash?? haha....

Don't forget our boys Randal El, Patten and Lloyd... :)

D'BOYZ 11-03-2006 12:13 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238226]That's a whole lot of "ifs".. To answer your question, YES, I'll still be behind him becuase I want to see a few more good games this year. Especially against the Giants.

You're way up there on your horse for being 4-3 right now, don't you think? New QB and all. You all may very well fall short yourselves. Any given Sunday.[/quote]

Nahh man I'm not up in my horse I just state the obvious Campbell is sopouse to be the future and if (and everything points that way) Brunnell isn't the option and there's notting to fight the season and if Campbell os ready I think it's time to move on.

Hey you only got 1 pick in the first day off the draft next year better make it worth

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:16 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238251]Are you calling him "Trash" on purpose?? Or do you mean Thrash?? haha....

Don't forget our boys Randal El, Patten and Lloyd... :)[/quote]

Oh I meant trash on purpose, he doesnt seem to be doing much this year. In the past years he was a special teams beast.

Big C 11-03-2006 12:17 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[QUOTE=D'BOYZ;238254]Nahh man I'm not up in my horse I just state the obvious Campbell is sopouse to be the future and if (and everything points that way) Brunnell isn't the option and there's notting to fight the season and if Campbell os ready I think it's time to move on.

Hey you only got 1 pick in the first day off the draft next year better make it worth[/QUOTE]

go suck on some tuna boobs

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:18 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
:funnypost

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:19 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=jdlea;238165]You're right man. I can't stand the sorry ass Skins fans who say stuff like, I don't care if we go 2 - 14 and beat Dallas both games. That's bs. That's a losing attitude. Personally, the Skins can go 14 and 2 and drop both games to Big D for all I care. I want them to win! Dallas doesn't mean much to me. Hell, go 10-6 and 0-6 in the division, if they make the playoffs I'll be pissed that they lost all divisional games, but I'll be happy as hell that they made the playoffs. They need to win games, I don't care who they come against. Just win baby...[/quote]

To me, evey game is meaningful.

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:21 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238260]To me, evey game is meaningful.[/quote]

I like what you are saying Hess, but as someone recently pointed out only 4 teams starting off 2-5 or worst have made the playoffs. Regardless of your team's situation, statistically that is damn near impossible.

Looking at our situation, you would think it is even harder, because our QB sucks, and we don't have a D to bail us out on important games.

This is why we need Campbell, the season is over.

Alvin#40 11-03-2006 12:22 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;238254]Nahh man I'm not up in my horse I just state the obvious Campbell is sopouse to be the future and if (and everything points that way) Brunnell isn't the option and there's notting to fight the season and if Campbell os ready I think it's time to move on.

Hey you only got 1 pick in the first day off the draft next year better make it worth[/quote]
huh?

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:26 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hooskins;238262]I like what you are saying Hess, but as someone recently pointed out only 4 teams starting off 2-5 or worst have made the playoffs. Regardless of your team's situation, statistically that is damn near impossible.

Looking at our situation, you would think it is even harder, because our QB sucks, and we don't have a D to bail us out on important games.

This is why we need Campbell, the season is over.[/quote]
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[COLOR=black]If we lose on Sunday, I'll agree with you. But right now our D is back; for the first time ALL season they are together again. I'm just reserving judgment until after Sunday. IF we stink it up again, then you're right - it's over, but we have a good chance of NOT doing that. Also, I would like to see us beat Philly and the Giants regardless of our "season being over" - if we do lose on Sunday.[/COLOR]
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hooskins 11-03-2006 12:29 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238264]
[COLOR=black]If we lose on Sunday, I'll agree with you. But right now our D is back; for the first time ALL season they are together again. I'm just reserving judgment until after Sunday. IF we stink it up again, then you're right - it's over, but we have a good chance of NOT doing that. Also, I would like to see us beat Philly and the Giants regardless of our "season being over" - if we do lose on Sunday.[/COLOR]
[/quote]

I still thinks stats have a huge impact on this issue, and I think we are out of it. That being said, I would love to see us beat those teams. I would love more to see Campbell beat those teams.

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:34 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
I need to go over the ES.... they are all so much more postive there. You guys bring me down. It's less than two days before the game. Where is the faith? Even if you guys thinks it's blind faith part of havnig fun at games is cheering on YOUR TEAM. It's Dallas week. Where are the "Go Skins. F Dallas. Fight On, Fight On POSTS???? There is so little of that around here. It SUCKS!!

GO SKINS!!!!!!!! F*CK THE COWGIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Zimmermans 11-03-2006 12:41 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
I feel like sunday is more of a judgement day for next season. It is gonna indicate if we have the right tools in place, if it goes poorly, there are gonna be many changes between now and next season. This season is pretty much over, our schedule is near impossible, almost no favorable matchups. Our defense and special teams need to be improved drastically to think we can win 8 more games!!

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:41 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238270]I need to go over the ES.... they are all so much more postive there. You guys bring me down. It's less than two days before the game. Where is the faith? Even if you guys thinks it's blind faith part of havnig fun at games is cheering on YOUR TEAM. It's Dallas week. Where are the "Go Skins. F Dallas. Fight On, Fight On POSTS???? There is so little of that around here. It SUCKS!!

GO SKINS!!!!!!!! F*CK THE COWGIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

Did you not see the thread about my bet with the Cowboys fan? I love the Skin and i wanna see those assholes losee lol. But I am rational as well, and right now for some reason my rational side is showing up. By game day I will most likely be one of those skins fans you love.

The Zimmermans 11-03-2006 12:42 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
sorry man, WE GOIN TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is that better?

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:42 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=The Zimmermans;238275]I feel like sunday is more of a judgement day for next season. It is gonna indicate if we have the right tools in place, if it goes poorly, there are gonna be many changes between now and next season. This season is pretty much over, our schedule is near impossible, almost no favorable matchups. Our defense and special teams need to be improved drastically to think we can win 8 more games!![/quote]\

Good grief..........

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:43 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=The Zimmermans;238277]sorry man, WE GOIN TO THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is that better?[/quote]

How about just cheering on the team to beat Dallas??? Sheesh!

The Zimmermans 11-03-2006 12:46 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
who said i wasnt cheering on the team to beat dallas???? I think that's pretty standard to cheer for your own team, don't you??? I've made plenty of positive posts on the game, I think we can win this game. Especially facing a rookie QB at home.

hesscl34 11-03-2006 12:53 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
I'm just feisty........ GO SKINS!!!!!

hooskins 11-03-2006 12:55 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238279]How about just cheering on the team to beat Dallas??? Sheesh![/quote]

Come on Hessyy, its all good. we all got love here for the Skins, that is why we spend our time posting here, rather than doing other things. everyone here is very down over the teams lackluster performance over the last decade, and that is why we are so critical. Our team has not shown much glimmer, and it hurts.

You think you have been through it all? I was born in 87, when we won the Superbowl. Since then I can only remember 3 playoff births, including last year. Much of what I have seen is crap, but I still keep coming back because I love this team more than any woman(except you mom!!).

If that is not commitment and true fanship, I don't know what is.

D'BOYZ 11-03-2006 12:58 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
I just think that being a fan and wanting your team to win comes allways, but when you want to be recional about the sport you love and give deeper toughts on your team and football subjects you have to take the fan out of you and just look at the game.

And all might say that your team would lose or doesn't stand a chance but on Sunday we all want our team to win even if we tought they wouldn't.

That happen to me last week against Carolina everything said Carolina would win that game I hoped for a close game but I didn't expect a W, but when the game was on I was back being just a fan screeming and demanding my team to kick those panthers ass.

And hope can't die hey any given Sunday anyone can win it just a matter of who shows up.

RobH4413 11-03-2006 01:02 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hooskins;238282]Come on Hessyy, its all good. we all got love here for the Skins, that is why we spend our time posting here, rather than doing other things. everyone here is very down over the teams lackluster performance over the last decade, and that is why we are so critical. Our team has not shown much glimmer, and it hurts.

You think you have been through it all? I was born in 87, when we won the Superbowl. Since then I can only remember 3 playoff births, including last year. Much of what I have seen is crap, but I still keep coming back because I love this team more than any woman(except you mom!!).

If that is not commitment and true fanship, I don't know what is.[/quote]
Yeah, I have seen/known only a losing redskins in my life. Last year was like a dream come true. Gets my blood running through my veins. It's okay to be critical/pessimistic when we're 2-5. In fact... it would be damn crazy not to be. We'll still always hope for the best.

Either way, I want them to kick the s%#$ out of Dallas on sunday, lets crush some dreams.

hesscl34 11-03-2006 01:03 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=D'BOYZ;238284]I just think that being a fan and wanting your team to win comes allways, but when you want to be recional about the sport you love and give deeper toughts on your team and football subjects you have to take the fan out of you and just look at the game.

.[/quote]

I'm not very good at taking the "fan out of me". Born and raised to love the Skins. Even when they suck.

hooskins 11-03-2006 01:05 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238287]I'm not very good at taking the "fan out of me". Born and raised to love the Skins. Even when they suck.[/quote]

As was I, but just because I am more critical when we lose doesnt make me less of a fan, or a worst one, for the reasons i have pointed out above.

RobH4413 11-03-2006 01:08 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hesscl34;238287]I'm not very good at taking the "fan out of me". Born and raised to love the Skins. Even when they suck.[/quote]
Loving doesn't imply ignoring reality. We all love em, but we know theres someting wrong with them.

Hess, your one of the most hardcore fans out there... love the passion.

You better be getting amped up for sunday!!!!

hesscl34 11-03-2006 01:08 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=hooskins;238288]As was I, but just because I am more critical when we lose doesnt make me less of a fan, or a worst one, for the reasons i have pointed out above.[/quote]
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[COLOR=black]I'm not saying you guys are bad fans, I'm asking you to stop being negative less than 48hrs away from the game and cheer on the skins. I think we've beat the negative TO DEATH. Is it too much to ask to have a little pep rally??? HAIL![/COLOR]

It sure does make it more fun that way.....

TheMalcolmConnection 11-03-2006 01:18 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Sometimes I like to keep my expectations low so that way I'll never be disappointed.

GhettoDogAllStars 11-03-2006 01:19 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Hess is right. Negativity is bad. I am/have been negative (what I would call realistic/rational) in the past, but I am done with that. It's called self-fulfilling prophecy: if you think something will happen, it does.

And on that note, we will win this weekend. Why? because I just said so. :)

:dallas:

TheMalcolmConnection 11-03-2006 01:30 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
I like to think bad thoughts because then it's kind of like reverse psychology against myself.

hesscl34 11-03-2006 01:41 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=GhettoDogAllStars;238294]Hess is right. Negativity is bad. I am/have been negative (what I would call realistic/rational) in the past, but I am done with that. It's called self-fulfilling prophecy: if you think something will happen, it does.


And on that note, we will win this weekend. Why? because I just said so. :)

:dallas:[/quote]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! I couldn't have said it better!!!

Crat92 11-03-2006 01:50 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=RedskinRat;238238]Has Sean Taylor met Tony Romo yet?

Poor Romo......[/quote]
Hell Yeah! That's what I'm Talking About! Blitz Romo 'til he can't breath or see straight! GO 'SKINS! HAIL!!!!!!!!

hesscl34 11-03-2006 01:52 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[IMG][URL=http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadcowboypr4.jpg][IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/373/deadcowboypr4.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/IMG]

TheMalcolmConnection 11-03-2006 01:52 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
What is that?

hesscl34 11-03-2006 01:54 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Look harder. It's a dead cowboy... with his hat in the dirt.

Crat92 11-03-2006 02:00 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Like the 'ole song says...................."Mamma don't let your babies grow up to be Cowboys!"

GTripp0012 11-03-2006 02:05 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
[quote=marius;238069]The skins made depth a wide receiver a priority and if Moss is out we are about to see if they got it right. So far ARE and Lloyd have contributed almost nothing. However, in my opinion this is in large part a function of Brunell not even looking their way. With Moss out he'll have no choice. We know that if he throws it Lloyd's way he can out jump the cowgirls secondary so I'd love to see Brunell tossing it deep a few times on 1st and 2nd down to stretch the field and open it up for Portis.

Of course, we all hope Moss plays but perhaps if he doesn't it will at least force Brunell to look elsewhere - looking on the bright side, this could be the time for Lloyd and ARE to break out.[/quote]I really don't think its about "will they step up". They are paid professonals. They will be ready. The problem is this: Moss does things on a football field that cannot be duplicated. Not just by ARE or Lloyd, but by anyone in the NFL. We lose Moss, and we lose about half of our big play ability. Nevertheless, we have the recievers to play this game, and move the chains. We just have to hope that the D comes around, because without Moss, we won't be able to keep up in a shootout.

Lady Brave 11-03-2006 04:22 PM

Re: If Moss is out - can ARE and Lloyd step up?
 
Hmmm... Moss downgraded to doubtful. Not good. I'm hoping to see a lot out of Cooley and ARE. As far as Lloyd goes, I predict another hissy fit. I hope I'm wrong.


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