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[QUOTE=RedskinRat;239420]The snap from center wasn't Brunell's fault. :eek:

I don't believe what I'm reading here.[/QUOTE]

I blame Rabach for the botched snap. I blame Brunell for not diving on the ball after the fumble. But, I'm not going to let 1 or 2 snaps define our offense's or Brunell's performance.

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I'm not saying it's one or two snaps.

Rewatch the game and tell me what you think.

Yay, we won! Very happy about that. Not happy about Brunell at all.

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[quote=RedskinRat;239418]:laughing2 :rofl: :laughing-

Wait...you're serious?[/quote]


He was a field general today. What game did you watch?

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;239430]He was a field general today. What game did you watch?[/QUOTE]


Define "field general". U.S. Grant or George Custer?

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brunell played like he suppose to play with line help... i only saw two, maybe three suspect passes- i saw plenty of zip down the middle, getting thrash and lloyd involved when not getting it to cooley. considering the lack of moss, he did a commendable job against a solid D.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;239307]he played much better today and the defense tackled better as well. we still barely beat them though and our OL wasn't looking so hot :(, but it's an improvement.[/QUOTE]



He did play better today and we got the win. However we were still very fortunate to win that game today. I certainly would not want to have to rely on a blocked field goal with six seconds left on the clock to win every week. That blocked field goal is what saved us today. I'm still smarting that last Cowboy drive that got them in FG range.

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[quote=Longtimefan;239436]He did play better today and we got the win. However we were still very fortunate to win that game today. I certainly would not want to have to rely on a blocked field goal with six seconds left on the clock to win every week. That blocked field goal is what saved us today. I'm still smarting that last Cowboy drive that got them in FG range.[/quote]

A win is a win and at 3-5 you don't complain.

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[quote=hooskins;239312]I mean Brunell played a very good game, and yet they are talking trash.

If our D held up, we would have crushed the Boys. Apparently they fail to see the problems with our D. Remember, jedi mindtricks?[/quote]

So it's not cool to bash Brunell because he played a decent game, but it's ok to bash the defense which had a pretty good game themselves? Ahhh.. hypocrisy.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;239439]A win is a win and at 3-5 you don't complain.[/quote]

If you're content with mundane then don't complain.

I'm not content with a back-up grade QB starting for the team I love.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;239440]So it's not cool to bash Brunell because he played a decent game, but it's ok to bash the defense which had a pretty good game themselves? Ahhh.. hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]

Brunell had a better game at his position than the D did overall, imo (and I'm a defense fan)... how many 3rd downs did Dallas convert, especially 3rd and longs? They cowboy's offense had no problem slicing the D for big chunks on the run (both jones and barber) and romo handled the blitzes nicely. The defense did just enough to put us in a position to win- key stops in the 4th quarter, special teams block on the FG by Vanderjagt...

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[quote=RedskinRat;239359]Yeah, Sheriff, it's a lot like religion. You're either blinded by faith or a rational person.[/quote]

[quote=RedskinRat]11-05-2006, 02:45 PM
Matt, I'll be honest and say that he'd have to put up 34 points in the second half to make me happy.[/quote]

In this case, your faith is in your obvious underestimation of Brunell.

Look I'm not going to act like Brunell set the world on fire today. I really didn't think he played any better today than any other day. I thought he did his part to win. I think he's been doing that all year. I want to see what happens to our offensive efficiency ratings, but I think its clear now that we as fans are blinded by wins and losses. Brunell has been a constant. Another high completion low risk day. He made his mistakes as he usually does. As everyone does. But like hes done all season, he moved the football. He did his part in this win and should be commended.

The difference was in the defense. We made a step from shitty up to average today, and it really made a difference. In character with the rest of the year, we couldnt catch any breaks all game long.

We just pulled off the most amazing well deserved series of plays at the end. The world is right again.

And THAT is my 1500th post.

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Poor Brunell. He's the most hated mediocre QB in the NFL, and he's the most hated by the people who should be backing him - HIS FANS!!

I say you stand behind that man and keep you negative thoughts to yourself. He's our ONLY chance to win THIS SEASON!

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Brunell finally made throws in the middle of the field and made some completions in tight coverage. The rest of the league's quarterbacks do that with regularity, but it's a major accomplishment when Brunell does it for the second time in eight games?

Thank heavens for the 11 Dallas penalties for 153 yards, the blocked field goal, the personal foul on the return and the wind to hook the ball just inside the goal posts.

Without these, there aren't any "props to Brunell" threads.

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I just got home from where I was mark was awsome! HAIL!

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;239439]A win is a win and at 3-5 you don't complain.[/QUOTE]


I agree, a win is a win and I'll take one anyway I can get one, but had that FG not been blocked you may be saying something different right now.

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Brunell did "manage" the game but he was by no means good. I am still in favor of benching him, Gibbs needs to pull the trigger, Williams pulled the trigger and benched AA for most of the game starting vincent and we won!

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[quote=Longtimefan;239455]I agree, a win is a win and I'll take one anyway I can get one, but had that FG not been blocked you may be saying something different right now.[/quote]It's very true and quite sad. Because Brunell had no control over Vincent's block, ST's return, or the made FG to end it. But if one of those things doesn't happen, I'm sitting here defending the guy relatively alone for another week.

As I said before, winning fixes everything.

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[quote=Stacks42;239456]Brunell did "manage" the game but he was by no means good. I am still in favor of benching him, Gibbs needs to pull the trigger, [B]Williams pulled the trigger and benched AA for most of the game starting vincent and we won![/B][/quote]Good point.

So why are you for benching Brunell again?

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[quote=GTripp0012;239463]It's very true and quite sad. Because Brunell had no control over Vincent's block, ST's return, or the made FG to end it. But if one of those things doesn't happen, I'm sitting here defending the guy relatively alone for another week.[/quote]

I was actually very happy with the fact that the game was out of Brunell's hands at the end. Regardless of how well he played today, he still loses around 80% of the time when he has to try to bring a team back in the fourth quarter.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;239456]Brunell did "manage" the game but he was by no means good. I am still in favor of benching him, Gibbs needs to pull the trigger, Williams pulled the trigger and benched AA for most of the game starting vincent and we won![/QUOTE]

What's interesting though is a lot of people say the answer is just to bench Brunell. But maybe it was to bench Archuleta. Maybe it was to give Sellers some handoffs to mix things up with the running game. Maybe it was having a healthy Griffin.

But I guess there comes a point where the end result is less important than just not having Brunell out there. I'm not at that point, but I suppose others are.

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Let me just add. Clearly the answer is to bench Moss ;)

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[quote=Southpaw;239467]I was actually very happy with the fact that the game was out of Brunell's hands at the end. Regardless of how well he played today, he still loses around 80% of the time when he has to try to bring a team back in the fourth quarter.[/quote]I'm not going to bother to check your figure because, I mean how often can you [I]expect[/I] a QB to bring his team back? 25-30% at the highest?

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What is all this about 'benching Archuleta'? He was beaten by Jason Witten for the big catch on the last play before the blocked field goal.

He wasn't benched. He was out there getting torched when the game was on the line.

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[quote=GTripp0012;239464]Good point.

So why are you for benching Brunell again?[/quote]

Because he was almost picked off 4 times, he is a liability. We did win today and I am elated about that, but I still remember how he has played over the past 2-3, Like crap! We are not the ravens of a couple of years ago or even the skins of last year that has a great D,and can rely on them to keep us in games or even win for us.

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[quote=Stacks42;239480]Because he was almost picked off 4 times, he is a liability. We did win today and I am elated about that, but I still remember how he has played over the past 2-3, Like crap! We are not the ravens of a couple of years ago or even the skins of last year that has a great D,and can rely on them to keep us in games or even win for us.[/quote]

Not just me and my 'blind hatred' then?

Phew, another Brunell bigot. We need to start a cult, Stacks.

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[quote=Stacks42;239480][B]We are not the ravens of a couple of years ago or even the skins of last year that has a great D,and can rely on them to keep us in games or even win for us.[/B][/quote]Somebody, somebody please tell me how this is Brunell's fault. Jedi mind trick! Is it really?

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;239480]Because he was almost picked off 4 times, he is a liability. We did win today and I am elated about that, but I still remember how he has played over the past 2-3, Like crap! We are not the ravens of a couple of years ago or even the skins of last year that has a great D,and can rely on them to keep us in games or even win for us.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember him almost throwing 4 INTs. I also don't remember him throwing ANY actual INTs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;239473]I'm not going to bother to check your figure because, I mean how often can you [I]expect[/I] a QB to bring his team back? 25-30% at the highest?[/quote]

Well, I posted an article with the numbers a few weeks ago. Regardless of what the average numbers were, Brunell is the worst quarterback in the past ten seasons in fourth quarter comebacks. He played an acceptable game today, but I'm still happy it wasn't on him to win the game.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;239483]I don't remember him almost throwing 4 INTs. I also don't remember him throwing ANY actual INTs.[/quote]


Watch the game again. It's pretty plain to see. One throw went through Roy-Roy's hands.

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[quote=RedskinRat;239481]Not just me and my 'blind hatred' then?

Phew, another Brunell bigot. We need to start a cult, Stacks.[/quote]Good thing "almost interceptions" arent a real stat and have no effect on a game.

And if you want to talk about luck, how about the Redskins' season until now?

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It was a decent game played by Brunell today. He played to win too, he didn't play to lose.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;239474]What is all this about 'benching Archuleta'? He was beaten by Jason Witten for the big catch on the last play before the blocked field goal.

He wasn't benched. He was out there getting torched when the game was on the line.[/QUOTE]

I think he was brought out there at the end to serve as extra help on obvious passing plays. "Help" being used loosely

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[quote=Southpaw;239484]Well, I posted an article with the numbers a few weeks ago. Regardless of what the average numbers were, Brunell is the worst quarterback in the past ten seasons in fourth quarter comebacks. He played an acceptable game today, but I'm still happy it wasn't on him to win the game.[/quote]Yeah, I remember FO doing a study on it, finding Brunell the worst statistical comeback QB in the NFL. Then again the best was...wait for it...Jake Plummer.

But if you have to comeback consistently, chances are the team isn't doing a good job at any other position.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;239490]Yeah, I remember FO doing a study on it, finding Brunell the worst statistical comeback QB in the NFL. Then again the best was...wait for it...Jake Plummer.

But if you have to comeback comsistently, chances are the team isn't doing a good job at any other position.[/QUOTE]

I remember Ramsey being 0-11 there. Damn, did I just bring up Ramsey. Shit, I'm sorry

I take it back

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[quote=GTripp0012;239486]Good thing "almost interceptions" arent a real stat and have no effect on a game.

And if you want to talk about luck, how about the Redskins' season until now?[/quote]

We talk about the skins namely Rogers having "almost interceptions", looked like the whole cowpukes secondary, adopted his hands of stone play.
Im glad there werent any picks, MB had quite a few scary passes (the cooley touchdown, and what was up with that horrible throw to a wide open llyod? it was called back but wtf can he ever hit anyone in stride?). I cant believe that people are saying that a QB throwing for less than 200yds is a great game

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Brunell started the game off hot, and quickly cooled down. He made some big throws, he missed some big throws, and he made some awful throws. If this were a one week trial, he'd probably be our #1 WR. But does anyone want to bet he'll play well again next week? Or the week after? Brunell feels the pressure "Oh shit, Im gonna lose my job, time to take some risks." then once he has the job secure he becomes firmly entrenched back to his old ways.

While Brunell played decent, he didn't play great. He about got Portis killed with a high ball, threw two bad ints, one into a lineman, and overall moved the team by going deep and getting PI calls (proving our WRs get more than open, Dallas has a strong secondary and we were blowing by!).

I still want a change at QB just because I don't see this being a regular occurance.

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[quote=Stacks42;239495]We talk about the skins namely Rogers having "almost interceptions", looked like the whole cowpukes secondary, adopted his hands of stone play.
Im glad there werent any picks, MB had quite a few scary passes (the cooley touchdown, and what was up with that horrible throw to a wide open llyod? it was called back but wtf can he ever hit anyone in stride?). [B]I cant believe that people are saying that a QB throwing for less than 200yds is a great game[/B][/quote]It is when you throw 23 times! That's 8.35 yards/attempt. Better than Peyton Manning's season average.

He did have a few scary passes, but people were asking us to open up the offense...so I mean you can't have it both ways...unless they drop them.

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Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.

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[quote=Daseal;239506]Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.[/quote]Why would we make the comparison?

I'm just saying Brunell's YPA today was better than the average Manning game. Ya know, instead of giving a figure with nothing to compare it to.

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[quote=Daseal;239506]Lets base Mark Brunells season Average againt Peyton Mannings, or even this game vs Peyton Mannings best game.[/quote]

HATERS BACK OFF!!! Will you always come up with something to complain about? Hello... Rivalry... We beat the Cowpukes for God's sake, give it a rest for ONE DAMN WEEK!!! Jimminy XMAS!!!