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I am not 100% percent sure, but I think Ducket has been active the last couple of games. I think they go into the games with only two active tight ends

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[quote=chris36;242879]I am not 100% percent sure, but I think Ducket has been active the last couple of games. I think they go into the games with only two active tight ends[/quote]

Sure you're not talking about your new team, the Bears?

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[quote=Longtimefan;242831]Exactly, and rumor had it that the reason they signed him in the first place was they were afraid he may go to Philadelphia and have to be concerned with defending him. Now I can understand your having that kind of respect for a RB, but not to the tune of a 3rd round pick. There is no scenerio where you stand to win in this situation. We loose all the way around.[/quote]
this arguement makes me laugh. the eagles run the ball about 10-15 times a game, and westbrooke gets about 10 of them. no back is going to do much carrying the ball about 5 times a game. and duckett is certainly not jim brown

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this makes for a very very happy panda.

Its really just common sense...glad it being implemented, and I applaud our teams.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;242669]Comcast is reporting that Gibbs has decided to use T.J. Duckett on short-yardage situations. Has anyone heard anything about this? If it's true, what does this mean for Cartwright? We only carry 3 backs on gameday.[/quote]Rock is very valuble as a kick returner, so I imagine he will stay active. Presumably if Duckett is doing short yardage, he is also doing special teams, and we can carry 4 RBs and one less at another position.

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[quote=61cad;242787]The Skins are going to have to resign Betts or Duckett. Which one?[/quote]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.

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about time. i agree that the steelers will probably look at TJ at the end of the year... seems to make sense.

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[quote=GTripp0012;242977]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.[/quote]

nah, BL is going to be drafted as a V back, to block, run and catch... kinda like griffith in atlanta or alstott in tampa... he'll probably still go towards the end of the first day.

and we won't have a 3rd round pick to use on an RB. we can FA sign a CB and draft a DE with our 1, then it's just roster fill, so resigning betts would be a good idea unless someone blows him away, which i doubt.

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wow. i sure hope they play duckett some against the eagles. I wont believe it until i see it.

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Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.

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I say get rid of Rock, Betts is a better kick returner. And have Sellers lead the way during heavy-jumbo.

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[quote=Defensewins;243053]Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.[/quote]

Is it humiliation or motivation?

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no one can stop duckett+sellers. n o o n e e v e r i n t h e h i s t o r y o f t h e w o r l d................ e x c e p t m e o f c o u r s e !

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[quote=Defensewins;243053]Gibbs should NOT announce these kind of coaching moves in the media.

1) Why publicly humiliate Portis and ruffle his feathers? The message you are putting out in the media is you are not doing it we will try someone else.
2) It gives our next opponent an advance on what we are doing. Why?
3) If Duckett fails Gibbs looks stupid. Just make the move don't telegraph it.[/quote]

If we can execute, it won't matter if they know what's comming. Portis should welcome this cause he won't be getting his brains beat out. He'll just (hopefully) make the highlights.

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[QUOTE=saskin;243081]If we can execute, it won't matter if they know what's comming. Portis should welcome this cause he won't be getting his brains beat out. He'll just (hopefully) make the highlights.[/QUOTE]

It's not execution, it's lack of balance on offense.
The proof is in the recent superbowl winning teams, they have been balanced (pass/run) which makes them unpredictable. This causes the opposing defenses to be on their heels guessing.
One dimensional teams like Colts and Eagles (strong with the pass but average run) have come up short in the playoffs every year. The Patriots and Steelers won by running and passing and not being predictable.
Skins are good running the ball but inconsistant passing. So good teams stack the line and key on Portis. It is not Portis' fault or lack of execution, the defense has 8 to 9 guys playing the run against 6 blockers. We will lost that battle almost every time.
Our QB needs to make the defensive back 7 think about moving backwards.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;242977]If it was up to me, I would use a 2nd day pick on a back. Rutgers' Brian Leonard is a college fullback who would probably be drafted as an NFL power tailback. He might have gone first day if he came out last year, but this year he has been overshadowed by a Heisman caliber performance from Ray Rice. Also, NIU's Garrett Wolfe is a small guy with great speed and elusiveness, and could return kicks for us. These guys could both fall 3rd round or later, so theres no need to resign either Betts or Duckett. However its a buyers market for backs right now, so I expect them to let Betts and Duckett test the water, and sign back relatively cheaply.[/QUOTE]

Good God, man -- we have to draft defense next year, don't we?

Betts is as good as gone, and no way will the Skins let go of Duckett after what they gave up to get him. Cartwright will spend one more season in Washington, then he'll be elsewhere.

But the focus HAS to be on the defense -- 2 defensive linemen, 2 linebackers, 2 corners, a safety ... a complete overhaul is needed.

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[quote=Beemnseven;243123]Good God, man -- we have to draft defense next year, don't we?

Betts is as good as gone, and no way will the Skins let go of Duckett after what they gave up to get him. Cartwright will spend one more season in Washington, then he'll be elsewhere.

But the focus HAS to be on the defense -- 2 defensive linemen, 2 linebackers, 2 corners, a safety ... a complete overhaul is needed.[/quote]

we've got 4 picks, and you can't count on a 5, 6, or 7 to be starters either.

#1 DE
#5 DB
#6 ??
#7 ??
UD P

of course we could trade down, and some FAs will be available (like clements) which helps, but having more draft picks would be even better.

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[quote]The proof is in the recent superbowl winning teams, they have been balanced (pass/run) which makes them unpredictable. This causes the opposing defenses to be on their heels guessing.
One dimensional teams like Colts and Eagles (strong with the pass but average run) have come up short in the playoffs every year. The Patriots and Steelers won by running and passing and not being predictable.[/quote]

I don't buy that the Steelers are balanced. The Colts run much more often than the Steelers pass!

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I really hope we don't use a draft pick on a RB, we have two very capable backups as it is, why not just resign one of them??

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[quote=That Guy;245485]we've got 4 picks, and you can't count on a 5, 6, or 7 to be starters either.

#1 DE
#5 DB
#6 ??
#7 ??
UD P

of course we could trade down, and some FAs will be available (like clements) which helps, but having more draft picks would be even better.[/quote]

I have this feeling we're going to waste two more late round picks are OL that we're just going to cut. Honestly, I feel like Bugel, if anyone, has had the game pass him by.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;242669]Comcast is reporting that Gibbs has decided to use T.J. Duckett on short-yardage situations. Has anyone heard anything about this? If it's true, what does this mean for Cartwright? We only carry 3 backs on gameday.[/quote]

They had 4 backs in Philly. 5 if you count Sellers.

Now that Brunell is out of the starters role, is Gibbs actually waking up??

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;245539]I have this feeling we're going to waste two more late round picks are OL that we're just going to cut. Honestly, I feel like Bugel, if anyone, has had the game pass him by.[/quote]

yeah. i mean, we wasted a pick last year on a guy NO ONE was going to draft, just because he played all five spots in college (big f'ing deal). bugel and breaux and saunders could all go away this year and i wouln't shed a tear.

of course, if you want an honest answer from the staff, bugel's the only guy you'll get it from (or maybe dale linsey :P)

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;242669]Comcast is reporting that Gibbs has decided to use T.J. Duckett on short-yardage situations. Has anyone heard anything about this? If it's true, what does this mean for Cartwright? We only carry 3 backs on gameday.[/quote]

I think this could benefit Duckett a lot because I have a feeling he will see more action other than just short yardage, between Sellers and Duckett they could really wear a defense line down with the run and open up the passing game finally??? what do you all think

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[quote=GREENSTHEMAN;246257]I think this could benefit Duckett a lot because I have a feeling he will see more action other than just short yardage, between Sellers and Duckett they could really wear a defense line down with the run and open up the passing game finally??? what do you all think[/quote]

sellers and duckett have been getting over 5 yards a carry it seems... if we start using them more, that'll go down, but if they can grind out some games and win them, i'm all for it.

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When Duckett was at Michigan State, he was big [B][U]and[/U][/B] fast. I'm glad to see him in games - finally - but short yardage would be a waste of talent if that's all he was used for.

Philadelphia - first carry from scrimmage -12 yards; second carry - 4 yards. Guess that fall-off worried the coaches. Maybe he's not showing something in practice.

:benched:

As for next year, it's clear that Betts fits the Al Saunders offense more than TJ. I think the Skins make their move there. Can't criticize the move.

The Giants have a huge hole at RB next year. "Hello, LaVar. Got the name of a good real estate agent?"

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I hope we keep the guy. If for nothing else than he's a madden hero. I'd like to see him play in some games, but Im not sure if he's an everydown back. I think if he was, hed have had that role in Atl.

The guy is a freaking beast in madden, though... I started using him and clinton like 50/50 and I'm 11-4 on the month. You get him isolated on the edge with a safety and truck them, and no one can catch you...

He did look fast in the philly game when I saw him carry the one time. I think he pulled out like 11 yards and looked like a fast moving train...

They should've just kept pounding him in there and making the eagles stop him.

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[quote=That Guy;246243]yeah. i mean, we wasted a pick last year on a guy NO ONE was going to draft, just because he played all five spots in college (big f'ing deal). bugel and breaux and saunders could all go away this year and i wouln't shed a tear.

of course, if you want an honest answer from the staff, bugel's the only guy you'll get it from (or maybe dale linsey :P)[/quote]

After hearing what I'm hearing about Saunders, I'm going to reserve my judgement until I see what Campbell can do under this offense. If the playcalling STILL blows, then I'll agree...

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;246372]After hearing what I'm hearing about Saunders, I'm going to reserve my judgement until I see what Campbell can do under this offense. If the playcalling STILL blows, then I'll agree...[/quote]


What are you hearing about Al?

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Just heard that he adapted his playcalling to fit Brunell's abilities. His playbook is predicated on the deep ball.

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I hope that is true as well. If that is true, Al must be dancin' in the street. At some point in time, I would love to open our Offensive series with a 50 yard bullet, like Mcnabb continually burns us with!

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[quote=Master4Caster;246339]When Duckett was at Michigan State, he was big [B][U]and[/U][/B] fast. [/quote]


Rock Cartwright played for Conroe TX when I was in school (I went to Silsbee and we played them on their turf ass field every year... they were good....) and he was known as an all around back. He was a big guy, but he was faster than probably anybody on our team except Detrice Spearman. Detrice was our star running back, but he played Linebacker when we played Conroe and Port Neches Groves, to stop their running attacks.

Rock rushed for something like 2000 yards his senior year and would blow up anyobdy that tried to tackle him... and I believe he split time with another senior, who alot of guys would say was better than Rock... even though that other guy is probably working at mcdonalds now lol....

Its amazing how the game speeds up at the different levels...