Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244766]isn't Philip Rivers playing? had an NFL snap? practiced consecutive days with the first team? removed all his splinters from the clipboard?[/QUOTE]

And how long did Phillip Rivers stay on the sidelines holding that clipboard?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;244773]How long did he sit before this year?[/QUOTE]

i don't know, tell me. how old will Campbell be before he gets an NFL snap, much less start a season?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244775]i don't know, tell me. how old will Campbell be before he gets an NFL snap, much less start a season?[/QUOTE]

Rivers had been a backup since '04.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Campbell is not gonna get any younger...Rivers is 24, and will turn 25 in December.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Oh, Rivers was born in '81, so that makes him around 25 or 26.

edit: Will have a birthday in December, so he will turn 25. One year younger than Campbell... not really much to argue about.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Delhomme and Trent Green didn't become full time starters until age 27/28

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;244780]Delhomme and Trent Green didn't become full time starters until age 27/28[/quote]

That happened 8 to 10 years ago?

The league has changed.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

How old was Rippen before he had became a full time starter?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;244780]Delhomme and Trent Green didn't become full time starters until age 27/28[/quote]

It looks like Trent is done in KC. I would almost be willing to bet a mortgage payment that he is our starter next year.

We will probably trade Cambell for a 5th rounder.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;244776]Rivers had been a backup since '04.[/QUOTE]

and Collins has been a backup since 1918. what's your point? Campbell hasn't even had regular PRACTICE with the first team yet. he's even behind for a backup.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;244781]That happened 8 to 10 years ago?

The league has changed.[/QUOTE]

Trent went to the Rams in what, 98 or 99? Injured that year went to KC the next year (I think.) It hasn't been that long ago.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244784]and Collins has been a backup since 1918. what's your point? Campbell hasn't even had regular PRACTICE with the first team yet. he's even behind for a backup.[/QUOTE]

I'm just answering your questions...what is your point with Collins. We weren't talking about Collins.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;244779]Oh, Rivers was born in '81, so that makes him around 25 or 26.

edit: Will have a birthday in December, so he will turn 25. One year younger than Campbell... not really much to argue about.[/QUOTE]

you certainly thought it was worth arguing about before. even if they were the same age, do you think no.3 w/o one NFL snap and season starter are comparable?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=illdefined;244784]Campbell hasn't even had regular PRACTICE with the first team yet.[/quote]

Not sure where you're getting that info, he took the majority of the snaps with the first team during the bye, and in camp he got some work with the first team as well.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;244781]That happened 8 to 10 years ago?

The league has changed.[/QUOTE]

Delhomme was 3/4 years ago.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

I think the point is, if Campbell is our future, and our seaon is lost already, we need to know what he is capable of. The only way we will really know that is if he has a chance to play.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

I would feel like someone hit me in the face with a shovel...this can't be serious...if they start collins, its as if they're throwing darts at a board as a decision making process

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;244788]I'm just answering your questions...what is your point with Collins. We weren't talking about Collins.[/QUOTE]

well you asked me how long Rivers has been a backup and i thought we were talking about Campbell.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244789]you certainly thought it was worth arguing about before. even if they were the same age, do you think no.3 w/o one NFL snap and season starter are comparable?[/QUOTE]

You started the argument about the age. I'm just providing you the answers in comparison that Rivers had to sit the bench for two seasons before he had became a starter, and in comparison there was not that big of an age difference between the two.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244794]well you asked me how long Rivers has been a backup and i thought we were talking about Campbell.[/QUOTE]

Someone else asked about Rivers...I asked about Rippen.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=skinsguy;244785]Trent went to the Rams in what, 98 or 99? Injured that year went to KC the next year (I think.) It hasn't been that long ago.[/quote]


1998 and it's 2006.

My math tells me thats 8 years.

How many years would that be in your math?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;244790]Not sure where you're getting that info, he took the majority of the snaps with the first team during the bye, and in camp he got some work with the first team as well.[/QUOTE]

by regular, i meant consecutive days. that came straight from Campbell's (printed) mouth, and yeah it only started about TWO WEEKS ago. how that compares to Philip Rivers starting an NFL season - a year younger to boot - has absolutely nothing to do with our situation.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;244781]That happened 8 to 10 years ago?

The league has changed.[/QUOTE]

Or how about Tony Romo? He'll be 27 in April.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;244797]1998 and it's 2006.

My math tells me thats 8 years.

How many years would that be in your math?[/QUOTE]

You don't need to throw out and attitude with me. Trent Green didn't start with KC until 2001...that has only been 5 years ago.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1599]NFL.com - Trent Green[/url]

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

I think Rypien was 27 when he first started for the Skins. He spent his first couple of seasons behind Williams and Schroeder

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;244800]Or how about Tony Romo? He'll be 27 in April.[/QUOTE]

looking good too. yeah i understand talented QBs can sit, but did they have Collins and Brunell caliber QBs keeping them on the bench? even during total garbage time? it's borderline irrational.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Ahhh... here we go....

[url=http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=RYPIEMAR01]Mark Rypien Past Stats, Statistics, History, and Awards - databaseFootball.com[/url]

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;244800]Or how about Tony Romo? He'll be 27 in April.[/quote]

You're missing my point. They are starting younger now.

Eli Manning 23.

Chris Simms 25.

V Young 23.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

I think we all need to check our math LOL:

Jason Campbell was born on 12/31/81

Phillip Rivers was born on 12/8/81

They are both 24 right now and will turn 25 next month.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Just borderline irrational???

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;244807]I think we all need to check our math LOL:

Jason Campbell was born on 12/31/81

Phillip Rivers was born on 12/8/81

They are both 24 right now and will turn 25 next month.[/QUOTE]

LOL!! So who said Campbell was 26 then? I guess that just blew up that argument...hahahaha

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;244793]I would feel like someone hit me in the face with a shovel...this can't be serious...if they start collins, its as if they're throwing darts at a board as a decision making process[/quote]

Throwing darts is much more scientific that the process that Barnum & Bailey er our front office uses.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Rivers will have almost an entire NFL season in his resume before Campbell gets his first [U]SNAP[/U]. that situation has less to do with our current situation than Mark Rypien.

Rypien?? Rypien didn't play earlier because the leather helmets used back then chafed his enormous skull.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=61cad;244806]You're missing my point. They are starting younger now.

Eli Manning 23.

Chris Simms 25.

V Young 23.[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize you had a point to begin with.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;244809]LOL!! So who said Campbell was 26 then? I guess that just blew up that argument...hahahaha[/QUOTE]

Matty did. and again, Campbell has only seen another color uniform across from him during preseason. that and starting a season couldn't be more different.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244812]Rivers will have almost an entire NFL season in his resume before Campbell gets his first [U]SNAP[/U].[/QUOTE]

That's your opinion...but the fact is that Gibbs isn't the only coach who believes in giving the young guy the clipboard for a couple years, and it's proved to be just as effective. Moreover, the season isn't over yet, and we may in fact see Campbell either this weekend or possibly sometime before the season is over.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Again, our season is done. We need to know what Campbell is capable of period? What would be the upside of starting Collins? Anyone?

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Dang me, Matty had to go spoil it with book lernin', and cyphers

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

Its obvious that Gibbs loves his veteran QB's . Its been that way ever since he came to DC. I don't know why people are so surprised/outraged that he hasn't started Campbell. I mean, I want Campbell to play too, but I know how Gibbs is and we'll just have to play the waiting game. Does it suck? Yes. Do we get anything out of complaining about in every f-ing thread? No. Best thing to do is wait and see. At this point, it doesn't really matter who's under center because the problem is a team problem...not just one player.

Trust me, I want Campbell just as bad as the next guy, but we have to be realistic and wait for Gibbs to make that decision. Thats all we can do.

Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;244816]Matty did. and again, Campbell has only seen another color uniform across from him during preseason. that and starting a season couldn't be more different.[/QUOTE]

No one is arguing that. The point is, it's not always the best thing to throw the young guy into the fire before his time. This isn't something local to what Gibbs does apparently AND it's proved to have been good for QBs like Green, or Rivers.