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MTK 12-09-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;257717]Portis' 1500 yards got us what, exactly?[/quote]

The playoffs.

Longtimefan 12-09-2006 04:12 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[QUOTE=Bill B;256793]I have not been able to find any information on the net other than Pioli's contract was set to expire after the 2006 draft.

Does anyone know if he signed a long term extension with the Patriots?

If not is there any way the Redskins can get him?[/QUOTE]



Joe Gibbs has mentioned in one of his latest interviews that he would be open and supseptible to any idea or change that would help the Redskins win Football games. I believe him. However, I also believe that any discussion regarding a GM would have to come at the behest of someone else in the organization with authority comparable to that of Gibbs. I say that because he has also, on more than one ocasion maintained he is satisfied with the current structure, and if that be the case, he obviously sees no need to change from the status quo.
While I do not feel in all cases a GM is neccessary, most NFL FO's have a head personel manager, and based on some of the recent decisions being made by the decision makers of the Redskins, lend credence to the fact a GM is something that should be given more than a glance at consideration.
Joe Gibbs is a Football coach, this is his area of expertize, and where his success was derived. He gained that measure of success because he had one of the best personel men in football at that time, gathering the players for him to coach. Our situation at present has too many different people making the decisions, or at least having input, the Adam Archuleta deal is a prime example, that was a GW decision, not Gibbs or Snyder. The both of them obviously signed off on the deal, but was the player in particular, their choice?
I have always felt that attempting to be a head coach, and GM simultaneously is far too much responsibility for one man . A coach primarily is only looking to win his next football game. Having a GM means having someone with a long range plan, and enough creative insight to know how he want's to build a team, and what the finished product will look like. Our current structure is obsessed with that win now at all cost attitude and that mentality hampers the growth,as well as the future of a team built to compete for a sustained period of time. If Joe Gibbs is serious about the possible implementation of a GM, he need only to convince Dan Snyder, and I'm convinced it could happen. I have the utmost respect for Joe Gibbs, and I think he should take a stand, and stick to it, either he'll be the head coach or GM, not both.

Beemnseven 12-10-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;257830]The playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Oh, please. It was bad opponents at just the right time, a punt return for a touchdown by a player the team didn't even want and the defense that got us to the playoffs.

MTK 12-10-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;258055]Oh, please. It was bad opponents at just the right time, a punt return for a touchdown by a player the team didn't even want and the defense that got us to the playoffs.[/quote]

Right... I guess his 5 straight 100+ yard games and 6 TDs down the stretch had nothing to do with the playoff run. :rolleyes:

Beemnseven 12-10-2006 02:15 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;258085]Right... I guess his 5 straight 100+ yard games and 6 TDs down the stretch had nothing to do with the playoff run. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

We went to the playoffs in 2004? I must have missed that.

MTK 12-10-2006 02:16 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;258100]We went to the playoffs in 2004? I must have missed that.[/quote]

?? I thought we were talking last year ??

Beemnseven 12-10-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;258103]?? I thought we were talking last year ??[/QUOTE]


Backrow mentioned his first two seasons. Anyhow, here's how I rank the fortunate events that led to last year's playoff run:

1. Antonio Brown's punt return for the TD in Arizona. If he doesn't make it, we lose - no playoffs.

2. Bad opponents at just the right time -- Rams, Eagles without their starting QBs and Philly without Brian Westbrook.

3. Exceptional defense

4. Portis

By the way, with Portis and all his yards, the Redskins are 18-21 since '04.

Whoopee.

MTK 12-10-2006 02:29 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
Split hairs any way you want, he was a big part of the playoff run that's all I'm gonna say.

Beemnseven 12-10-2006 03:00 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
18-21 with Portis since his career began in Washinton, and this franchise is headed in the wrong direction.

Is that worth a $50 million contract and a 2nd round choice?

MTK 12-10-2006 06:40 PM

Re: Is Scott Pioli available after the season?
 
[quote=Beemnseven;258148]18-21 with Portis since his career began in Washinton, and this franchise is headed in the wrong direction.

Is that worth a $50 million contract and a 2nd round choice?[/quote]

Not sure what that has to do with him getting injured and the defense falling apart


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