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I have no clue how anyone could say that the Redskins suck after the ran for 200 yards and put up over 400 yards on the Eagles, controlled the clock, and played good defense. While JC made mistakes, he's had 4 games as our QB.

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It's amazing that there could be 3 pages of discussion about a "they suck" thread.

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[quote=celts32;258617]It's amazing that there could be 3 pages of discussion about a "they suck" thread.[/quote]

Sad isn't it?

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[quote=Mattyk72;258620]Sad isn't it?[/quote]

Let's go for four pages.

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oh brother.............

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[quote=dgack;258623]Let's go for four pages.[/quote]

let's not, seriously.

Oh wait, it just did.

This thread sucks.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;258615]I have no clue how anyone could say that the Redskins suck after the ran for 200 yards and put up over 400 yards on the Eagles, controlled the clock, and played good defense. While JC made mistakes, he's had 4 games as our QB.[/QUOTE]

Have you seen the Redskins record this season?

All that talk about rushing yards and time of possession, etc. is loser talk. The redskins lost and that all that matters. They do suck, from top to bottom they suck.

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[quote=irish;258639]Have you seen the Redskins record this season?

All that talk about rushing yards and time of possession, etc. is loser talk. The redskins lost and that all that matters. They do suck, from top to bottom they suck.[/quote]

It's not quite as simple as that, I'm sure even you know that.

Saying something sucks isn't exactly the kind of take we want to encourage on the board. Let's back our posts up with something more meaningful.

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[quote=chris36;258334]Hey Carolina has had their entire secondary decimated and they have still been respectable. They have stared our own Christian Morton and he has played well. Another mistake. Anyway, injuries are part of the NFL. We have had allot less than most teams. New England has two new tackles playing with one being a rookie and they are still winning.[/quote]


This is what I've said all along. Other teams are playing well through injuries.

I whole heartedly believe we currently have playoff talent on this roster. That being said, I put the majority of the blame on the staff for the failure this year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;258641]It's not quite as simple as that, I'm sure even you know that.

Saying something sucks isn't exactly the kind of take we want to encourage on the board. Let's back our posts up with something more meaningful.[/QUOTE]

It is as simple as that. Wins & losses, thats all that matters in any pro sport. The only reason most redskin fans think otherwise is because the redskins dont win so they have to find victories in other aspects of the game.

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[quote=irish;258646]It is as simple as that. Wins & losses, thats all that matters in any pro sport.[/quote]

Of course, but there are plenty of things we can discuss and analyze that lead to those wins and losses.

'We suck' and 'we rule' posts are a waste of our time.

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The defense let us down again. There is no room for error with these linebackers and secondary. Even if we scored that TD instead of the FG we would have let philly march right down the field immediately afterwards for a game winning drive. All you have to do to beat us is run left 60 times a game. Holdman needs to learn how to shed a block. Other than that, things are peachy.

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[quote=The Zimmermans;258649]The defense let us down again. There is no room for error with these linebackers and secondary. Even if we scored that TD instead of the FG we would have let philly march right down the field immediately afterwards for a game winning drive. All you have to do to beat us is run left 60 times a game. Holdman needs to learn how to shed a block. Other than that, things are peachy.[/quote]


Well, one week it's the defense...the next week it's the offense.

One week people are calling for Brunell's head, well he's been benched. The next week, it's the penalties. Holdman, oh yeah he's been horrible too.

I think one consistant theme we find this year is that play calling has been suspect. I'm not really sure who calls the plays anymore.

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Saunders has called the plays all year.

Not sure why some still don't understand this.

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I think the offensive playcalling was very good this week. If we are gonna develop campbell, we HAVE to use him. Handing the ball of 50 times when your losing doesnt send a good message to Jason. He made his mistakes, but he also made his plays. Saunders was somewhat unpredictable this week, and the offense moved the ball all game because of it. He tried using Duckett near the goalline and duckett pusssed out. not Saunders' fault.

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[quote=Mattyk72;258656]Saunders has called the plays all year.

Not sure why some still don't understand this.[/quote]

No, I understand that. But has Gibbs stepped in to some degree?
Is he telling Al to call this play or that play in certain situations?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;258620]Sad isn't it?[/QUOTE]

rediculous...

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[quote=12thMan;258659]No, I understand that. But has Gibbs stepped in to some degree?
Is he telling Al to call this play or that play in certain situations?[/quote]

I guess we'll never know for sure but all we've heard is that Saunders is calling the plays and Gibbs does have some veto authority but there's no way to tell when and how often he uses that authority.

Knowing Gibbs and the way he delegates I'd guess it's pretty rare that he would overrule Saunders.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;258659]No, I understand that. But has Gibbs stepped in to some degree?
Is he telling Al to call this play or that play in certain situations?[/QUOTE]

Gibbs clearly stressed to Saunders that he wants more runs in general and more power runs but that does not mean he is calling specific plays. Gibbs suggestions concern the overall game plan.

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[quote=Mattyk72;258672]I guess we'll never know for sure but all we've heard is that Saunders is calling the plays and Gibbs does have some veto authority but there's no way to tell when and how often he uses that authority.

Knowing Gibbs and the way he delegates I'd guess it's pretty rare that he would overrule Saunders.[/quote]


But more than Gibbs actually vetoeing anything, I wonder if Al, and I'm reaching on this one, is playing mind games with himself. You know, "I wonder if Gibbs would want this or that play in this situation?" So I'll call what Joe would call, instead of what I feel we should go with?

It's a stretch, but I've played that scenerio over in mind.

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I really doubt it. You don't have that much time to event think about those types of things inbetween plays.

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[quote=dmek25;258380]its all about getting seven, and not settling for field goals. and i wish Chris would explain to me why we will be in cap hell. this is almost funny how someone always says this, and it NEVER happens[/quote]

Because if they don't get the CBA done before next season, the Skins are in Cap Hell!

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[quote=61cad;258696]Because if they don't get the CBA done before next season, the Skins are in Cap Hell![/quote]

Umm, the CBA was done last year.

:doh:

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[QUOTE=61cad;258696]Because if they don't get the CBA done before next season, the Skins are in Cap Hell![/QUOTE]

Have you been living in a cave?

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[quote=Mattyk72;258656]Saunders has called the plays all year.

Not sure why some still don't understand this.[/quote]

and Gibbs had nothing to do with any of it.

Please!

If Gibbs isn't game planning for the offense, then what does he do all week?

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[quote=chris36;258316]They suck. Coaches have sucked, personnel has sucked, and personnel management has sucked. They all sucked. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? They are in cap hell and they have a bunch of losers they have to get rid of.[/quote]

It's not as bad as it seems. This year has SUCKED for sure, but things will get better. We have a ton of talent that just needs to learn about each other and work as a team. When we get that going, things will get far better.

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[quote=61cad;258704]and Gibbs had nothing to do with any of it.

Please!

If Gibbs isn't game planning for the offense, then what does he do all week?[/quote]

I didn't say Gibbs has nothing to do with the offense. He's certainly involved with putting together the game plan, but come gameday it's Saunders running the show.

Besides, you've lost what little credibility you had with your take on the CBA.

If I'm drinking kool-aid you must be hitting the bottle. I suggest something a little lighter.

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[quote=Mattyk72;258707]I didn't say Gibbs has nothing to do with the offense. He's certainly involved with putting together the game plan, but come gameday it's Saunders running the show.

Besides, you've lost what little credibility you had with your take on the CBA.

If I'm drinking kool-aid you must be hitting the bottle. I suggest something a little lighter.[/quote]



Saunders is running the head coaches game plan.

Last time I looked Joe Gibbs was the head coach/ president.

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What happened to Saunders? Now he's not calling the plays and Gibbs is?? I think Gibbs didn't go for the TD because there was over 5mins left. He spoke to Williams before he called for the field goal and I think he really believed that we would have one more shot at at least a feild goal. So he went for the points. It's really not that hard to understand, even though in hind sight he should have gone for the TD because the D was tired and unable to stop the Eagles. And putting in Duckett instead of Betts on that drive I think WAS the right call. That's what the man is here for, so let him have a go at it. The Skins need to know if he's going to be worth holding onto or not. I guess we've got our answer.

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[quote=61cad;258712]Saunders is running the head coaches game plan.

Last time I looked Joe Gibbs was the head coach/ president.[/quote]

And Williams runs the defensive side, Smith the special teams.

And your point is?

There are plenty of head coaches in this league that don't run the offense and/or don't call plays I hope you know.

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yeah but if those coaches don't get the CBA done by next year, they are gonna be in Coach Hell

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Damn that CBA just won't go away huh?!

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;258706]It's not as bad as it seems. This year has SUCKED for sure, but things will get better. We have a ton of talent that just needs to learn about each other and work as a team. When we get that going, things will get far better.[/QUOTE]


A "ton" of talent? Outside of Moss and maybe Portis, where is the "ton of talent"? And if this team truly is overloaded with talent, what does it say of this coaching staff that hasn't been able to translate it into wins?

Lloyd, Randle El, Archuleta, and Carter were the only major additions at pivotal positions. The rest of these guys have had about as much playing time as most teams get. How many seasons do they need?

Many fans are in for a rude awakening when they discover how deeply flawed this organization is at its very roots.

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[quote=Mattyk72;258720]Damn that CBA just won't go away huh?![/quote]

And that Gibbs Stability that you preach is wearing out!

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[quote=61cad;258728]And that Gibbs Stability that you preach is wearing out![/quote]

Apparently he's more stable than that damn CBA.

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[quote=Mattyk72;258732]Apparently he's more stable than that damn CBA.[/quote]

Gee Matty you win!

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I know.

thanks.

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Matty 1, 61cad 0

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[quote=TAFKAS;258741]Matty 1, 61cad 0[/quote]


Tafkas..........King of late hits away from the play.

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IT'S THE HOLIDAY SEASON PEOPLE! Can't we stop all this a'fussin' and a'feudin'?!?!? Think of the children, the god damn children!

And hess, I agree that we brought in Duckett for the short yardage plays and that he should have been able to get that TD, but he got stopped because Saunders tried to run him to the outside, again. The man is like a human bowling ball, when are they going to learn not to run him to the outside?!?!

{I'm now humming 'Peace on Earth' like at the end of the Charlie Brown Christmas special}