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[QUOTE=BeastsoftheNFCeast;259170]I dont think that they can put the Franchise Tag on Clements 2 years in a row. Also I think Rogers is going to be a quality 1st string corner in a few years. Name one 2nd year 1st string corner, thats right, you cant. Just give him time.[/QUOTE]

Under the old CBA, you could franchise someone as many times in a row as you want (Seattle franchised Walt Jones several times, at least 3 years running, before signing him to a long term deal). The first time you franchise you have to guarrantee a salary of the average of the top 5 at a position, each following year, you have to increase that salary by 10% (I think).

In terms of roster construction, when the team designates and the player accepts a franchise tag, it's a one year salary that can't be spread out for cap purposes so it's always a BIG cap hit.

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[QUOTE=BeastsoftheNFCeast;259170]I dont think that they can put the Franchise Tag on Clements 2 years in a row. Also I think Rogers is going to be a quality 1st string corner in a few years. Name one 2nd year 1st string corner, thats right, you cant. Just give him time.[/QUOTE]

Yes but most guys who are 1st starting CBs in this league right now were never getting beat like a drum at any point in their careers. CB is a game of physical skill. Not much going on in terms of the mental side. In others words you need to be able to phyically do the job and most guys who can at least show that they can do it even in the rookie years. Then they work on consistency and technique. CR looks lost to me. Not quite fast enough and no confidence. I am worried greatly about him.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;259182]This is like the second post you've said this in, to which I shall respond:

1. Darrell Green
2. Deion Sanders
3. Charles Woodson
4. Fred Smoot
5. Champ Bailey
6. DeAngelo Hall
7. Pac Man Jones
8. Patrick Surtain
9. Sam Madison
10. Nate Clements[/QUOTE]

I am guessing this off the top of your head. There are more. Lots more too. Lito Sheppard is another. Our own Troy Vincent I believe too. It isn't uncommon at all.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;259245]I am guessing this off the top of your head. There are more. Lots more too. Lito Sheppard is another. Our own Troy Vincent I believe too. It isn't uncommon at all.[/QUOTE]

Yeah those were just the names that came to mind off the top of my head

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we need a gilbert brown, pat williams, john henderson type run stuffin SOB

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What i think will happen come draft day:
we will be sitting pretty high and most likely we will have a chance at Dewayne Jarrett and Calvin Johnson, New England needs a good reciever and im sure would be willing to part with there two first round picks for our top 5 most likely, we could then use there two picks on Laron Landry and Buster Davis, a stud at safety and a stud at LB, would solve two problems

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if the draft is that deep we're gonna have a hard time trading down. i'd be pretty surprised if the patriots made that kind of a deal. my guess is we keep the pick. i'll have one DT/DE, please-- and hold the wilkinson.

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Right now the skins are slated to pick 7.

[URL="http://www.ourlads.com/draftsequence.cfm"]2007 NFL Draft - 2007 NFL Mock Draft from Ourlads Scouting Services[/URL]

There are probably 4 d-lineman among the top 10 overall prospects:

Frank Okam DT Texas
Baraka "I'm not Obama" Atkins DT Miami (FL)
Alan Branch DT Michigan
Gaines Adams DE Clemson

The 3 dts are all very similar, but imo Branch in the run stuffing beast among them.

Gaines Adams stock will shoot up between now and the next 130+ days until draft day. He's the sack man of the group and is very athletic, but he's only 260, so he'll have to be very special to play de in a 4-3.

The Dbs in the draft are not as solid at the top compared to the d-lineman. A few names close to top 10:

Daymeion Hughes CB Cal
LaRon Landry S LSU (imo may not be a good fit w/Taylor)
Leon Hall CB Michigan

*Look for Alan Branch and Leon Hall of Michigan during Rose bowl

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[quote=Citizens for 81;259541]Right now the skins are slated to pick 7.

[URL="http://www.ourlads.com/draftsequence.cfm"]2007 NFL Draft - 2007 NFL Mock Draft from Ourlads Scouting Services[/URL]

There are probably 4 d-lineman among the top 10 overall prospects:

Frank Okam DT Texas
Baraka "I'm not Obama" Atkins DT Miami (FL)
Alan Branch DT Michigan
Gaines Adams DE Clemson

The 3 dts are all very similar, but imo Branch in the run stuffing beast among them.

Gaines Adams stock will shoot up between now and the next 130+ days until draft day. He's the sack man of the group and is very athletic, but he's only 260, so he'll have to be very special to play de in a 4-3.

The Dbs in the draft are not as solid at the top compared to the d-lineman. A few names close to top 10:

Daymeion Hughes CB Cal
LaRon Landry S LSU (imo may not be a good fit w/Taylor)
Leon Hall CB Michigan

*Look for Alan Branch and Leon Hall of Michigan during Rose bowl[/quote]

Should be 6th pick in the draft.

I'll never root against the skins for draft reasons but i can sure root for the other pathetic teams to win.

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I don't know why you guys are talking about the draft because Snyder, Coaches, and front office suck and will make a bad deal. Remember everyone affiiated with this team and even the stadium suck.

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wonder where heisman winner troy smith will end up?i can't see him going in round 1 can anybody else?

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[quote=RobH4413;259134]I agree, I think he'll eventually become a #1 corner. He's physical, he's fast, he's smart.

All the calls for his head probably are ignorant. A large number of fans were judging the guy (playing fantastic as of late) who was put in a terrible situation. I haven't broken his play down, if I had more time I would love too, but generally speaking you can't call a guy terrible because he doesn't shut down the teams #1 receiver in a terrible defense.

Albeit, he may not be a #1 corner now, but nevertheless he's got the potential. If your looking to the draft to make the defense better, then a cb as a first rounder may not be the best bet.

I would probably draft a stud cover-safety to back-up sean taylor. I don't know how good the safties are in the up-coming draft, but I'd love to be enlightened if anyone has a good idea.

Needless to say, we need DB depth. It's killed us the past two years, and we better learn our lesson.[/quote]

#1 CBs can catch. Carlos can't. He has one pick all year (which nearly bounced right off his numbers) and has dropped six.

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[QUOTE=GiantsSuck703;259495]What i think will happen come draft day:
we will be sitting pretty high and most likely we will have a chance at Dewayne Jarrett and Calvin Johnson, New England needs a good reciever and im sure would be willing to part with there two first round picks for our top 5 most likely, we could then use there two picks on Laron Landry and Buster Davis, a stud at safety and a stud at LB, would solve two problems[/QUOTE]

That would be great. However, New England is doing fine with what they have (10-4). I could never see them trading away two first rounders to get a big name, when they have shown they can produce without. It's just not their style.

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[quote=theJBexperience;261658]#1 CBs can catch. Carlos can't. He has one pick all year (which nearly bounced right off his numbers) and has dropped six.[/quote]

Darrel Green couldn't catch very well.

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Someone Help me out on the 2007 draft. What picks will we have and what picks (rounds) have we traded away?

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;259182]This is like the second post you've said this in, to which I shall respond:

1. Darrell Green
2. Deion Sanders
3. Charles Woodson
4. Fred Smoot
5. Champ Bailey
6. DeAngelo Hall
7. Pac Man Jones
8. Patrick Surtain
9. Sam Madison
10. Nate Clements[/QUOTE]

Dunta Robertson, Chris McAlister, Quentin Jammer, and Rashean Mathis among others as well.

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prime time was a great kick returner,but i thought he was a total jackass and joke as a cornerback/safety.
how do the skins have a first round oick this year?were'nt they all traded away?

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;262223]prime time was a great kick returner,but i thought he was a total jackass and joke as a cornerback/safety.
how do the skins have a first round oick this year?were'nt they all traded away?[/quote]

I can't stand deion but in his day he was a shut down corner. Maybe the best of all time. He was past his prime when he came to the skins (go figure).

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[quote=scowan;261688]Someone Help me out on the 2007 draft. What picks will we have and what picks (rounds) have we traded away?[/quote]

me too!how is it that the skins have a 1st round pick this year?

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to early to be really specific. I hope we trade down for more picks but thats probably not gonna happen. if we make any trades it will giving up about 3 '08 picks for one pick in '07. If we wind up staying the way we are right now though i think we should just take the best defensive player available regardless of his position. Drafting for one specific need is not always the way to go. especially in the first round.

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[quote=jrocx69;259492]we need a gilbert brown, pat williams, john henderson type run stuffin SOB[/quote]

Alan Branch fits the bill in my opinion. Teaming him with Griffin would be darn good against the run.

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[quote=NYCSkin;258526]So with the Packers and Zona winning I think we are cracking the top 5 now. So in prep for bowl season, here are four D line players I will be keeping my eyes on:

1. Gaines Adams, Clemson, DE (Music City Bowl, Dec. 29)
2. Amobi Okoye, Louisville, DT (Orange Bowl, Jan. 2)
3. Quinn Pitcock, Ohio St., DT (BCS Championship, Jan. 8)
4. Tim Crowder, Texas, DE (Alamo Bowl, Dec. 30)

Any other players you draftniks propose I keep an eye on?

Granted even if we pick one of these players Grilliams won't play them until week 10 after they have mastered "the system"...[/quote]


I think you have to keep an eye on Alan Branch from Michigan, only a junior but apparently he's ready to make the leap. Not a sack specialist like Adams but a true run stuffer.