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Re: Grade Jason Campbell
[quote=jsarno;265642]We're not grading on potential, we're grading on performance.[/quote]
True, but I'm grading his performance as a second-year player starting in a timing offense in the middle of the season. In absolute terms it's a C-. Given the context I just mentioned, I think it's a B+. |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
Speaking sabremetrically for a second:
I emailed the guy who created the QB projection system (which uses college stats; games started and comp. % to project relative NFL success). His system projected JC to have Palmer/Manning like production in his prime, and that obscenely high projection caused him to write an article titled [I][URL="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2006/11/18/ramblings/stat-analysis/4563/"]Will Jason Campbell save the Redskins?[/URL][/I] He mentions that his system also projected Campbell to be producing about "4 DPAR per game above replacement (replacement=average NFL backup, DPAR=points (scored minus costed) credited to an individual player adjusted for defenses he faced)" in his second season, or translated to conventional terms: a hair below the production Brunell gave us this season. I don't have the final DPAR numbers from what amounted to be Campbell's best game as a pro Saturday, so it'd be unfair to judge his season without his best game, but I'm estimating that he will nearly double his season total. If he does, he will have averaged about 2.5 DPAR/G for the year, well below his projection. What really impressed me was his running skills. All the scouting reports said he had mobility, something we had in Brunell. Campbell not only showed he had pocket presence and escape like that, but that once he encountered defenders, he is still a threat to go around or through them to get yardage. That was very impressive, and obviously an element of the position that Brunell didn't give us. On the whole, I thought he'd get it a lot sooner, and one game is hardly enough to be certain that he did get it. But on the same side of the coin, he only had 7 starts, so it's tough to see improvement with any certainty. His Giants game gets a solid A, but the season on a whole gets a C+ from me. He didn't complete enough passes, which is all a QB can control when it boils down to it, until that last game to warrent higher than a C, but I moved him up to a C+ because of his mad running skillz and his intangibles. |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
[quote=celts32;265518]Solid B...You can't ask for anything more out of a QB's 1st 7 starts. He played well enough to win most of those games were it not for the worst defense in the NFL backing him up.[/quote]I think any QB in this league can complete at least 55%. I think Jason was too careless with the football trying to force it downfield oftentimes, at least in his first 5 starts. I noticed significant improvement in the Rams game and (not so) conicidentily, we scored 31 pts, even though he was inaccurate, and still completed a low %. But at least he was learning.
Against NYG, he put it all togehter, and was careful (cept the pick) with the ball while being accurate underneath. We had our best offensive game since Jacksonville. |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
With all the changes the team has been through, no player on this team deserves more or less than a C. The bright spot would have to be the OL play though. And Betts benefitted from this the most.
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Re: Grade Jason Campbell
2006: B-
2nd half vs. Giants: A |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
I gave him a C, based on the following scale:
A - Near perfection (e.g.: Peyton Manning) B - Above average (e.g.: Tom Brady) C - Average (e.g.: Jon Kitna) D - Below average (e.g.: Bruce Gradkowski) F - Terrible (e.g.: Andrew Walter) I could never expect a first year starter to be anything more than average. I'm quite pleased and relieved. |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;265944]I gave him a C, based on the following scale:
A - Near perfection (e.g.: Peyton Manning) B - Above average (e.g.: Tom Brady) C - Average (e.g.: Jon Kitna) D - Below average (e.g.: Bruce Gradkowski) F - Terrible (e.g.: Andrew Walter) I could never expect a first year starter to be anything more than average. I'm quite pleased and relieved.[/QUOTE] absolutely agree...great assessment by the way. |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
I give him a B:
Why not an A? A few mistakes (judgement) on interceptions, although 2 of his INTs were batted balls and not entirely his fault. Also, he seems to miss Cooley a lot when he's WIDE OPEN in the middle of the field. He has a cannon for an arm and runs for first downs when he doesn't have a throw. He runs like a RB too, a big powerful RB...breaking tackles, using stiffarms. :) |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
10 td's 6 pics, enough said. Brunell had 8 TD's!!!!! in less games. Jason brought us a passing game....instead of a 2nd running game(which brunell did). Anyone think that the running game might have opened up for a reason????? I give him a B. I'm liking him more and more as he is able to make reads and escape pressure.
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Re: Grade Jason Campbell
I gave him a C due to his inaccuracy & lateness on some throws, but I think a C is pretty good for his 1st 7 starts. I agree w/Matty, the sky's the limit for JC if he can just keep improving a litle each week. Anyone that isn't excited about having him as our qb is a little too bitter for me. He gives us the most hope we've had since Brad Johnson.
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Re: Grade Jason Campbell
As a starting NFL QB I gave him a 'C'.
If I were rating him based the expectations of a first-year starter... I'd give him a 'B' |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
i put B because he was very composed in the pocket not nervous.
sure he made mistakes cause that comes with the learning process at the QB postion.i thought the offense picked up as he gained more experience with the offense and getting used to everybody around him. just needs more time and hopefully having a training camp ahead of him will help even more for next seasons potential success. grade B.......... |
Re: Grade Jason Campbell
Still mulling the grade...
Great at escaping pressure. I'm very excited at seeing his first "touch" pass during the Giants game. Too many bad throws missing wide open receivers. In general, his completion percentage is not very good. I like the fact he is cool under pressure. (The playcall when his headset went dead.) It's good he goes downfield. He misses on a lot of short throws. I don't think this is attributable to timing. Few of his long completions are on the money. Most come from the receiver adjusting to the ball. I hope this is due to timing and not due to the same factors that cause him to blow a lot of short throws. If he can make the short throws almost automatic and master "touch" passing, I think he can become a great QB. (I think if he masters the short throws he'll do well on the long throws as well.) |
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