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12thMan 01-22-2007 01:04 PM

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[quote=cpayne5;271552]Al Saunders as a replacement, anyone? Then have Russ Grimm step in for him here.

Saunders is the type of guy I think Jones would covet out there. Especially with who they've got in place on offense already.[/quote]


Certainly possible. I thought the same thing. It would be a good way to bring Grimm back into the fold and let Al leave on good terms.

Redskinhog1963 01-22-2007 01:09 PM

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[QUOTE]Parcells' legacy with the Cowboys can be framed this way: Instead of joining Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer as coaches who led them to championships, he leaves lumped with Chan Gailey and Dave Campo. [/QUOTE]

that's the best quote in nfl history,and the damned funniest too!
anybody think mariucci would coach dallas with TO on the team?

Redskinhog1963 01-22-2007 01:11 PM

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[quote=12thMan;271553]Certainly possible. I thought the same thing. It would be a good way to bring Grimm back into the fold and let Al leave on good terms.[/quote]

but what offense would they run?the al saunders not hitting on shit in 2006 O,or the joe gibbs 2005 O that got us into round two of the nfc playoffs?

12thMan 01-22-2007 01:13 PM

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;271561]but what offense would they run?the al saunders not hitting on shit in 2006 O,or the joe gibbs 2005 O that got us into round two of the nfc playoffs?[/quote]

Al Saunders can coach, I'll leave it right there.

MTK 01-22-2007 01:15 PM

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Saunders can run an offense... but how good of a head coach is he? That's the million dollar question. I really don't think he has the personality to be an effective head coach.

Redskinhog1963 01-22-2007 01:17 PM

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[quote=12thMan;271564]Al Saunders can coach, I'll leave it right there.[/quote]

he is a good coach,but the better part of 2006,the skins looked like shit,but that was on both sides of the ball,and in the lockerroom too!i just wonder what type of offense the redskins would run if saunders did leave?

firstdown 01-22-2007 01:23 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;271569]Saunders can run an offense... but how good of a head coach is he? That's the million dollar question. I really don't think he has the personality to be an effective head coach.[/quote]Have you ever seen Bilichick is not Mr Personality.

firstdown 01-22-2007 01:25 PM

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;271561]but what offense would they run?the al saunders not hitting on shit in 2006 O,or the joe gibbs 2005 O that got us into round two of the nfc playoffs?[/quote]
If in 2007 our O is bad then I'll say your right but look at Gibbs first year in 04 and Gibbs and Co. added to the problems with a very short training camp. I don't think thing will be as slack as last year.

12thMan 01-22-2007 01:25 PM

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[quote=Redskinhog1963;271573]he is a good coach,but the better part of 2006,the skins looked like shit,but that was on both sides of the ball,and in the lockerroom too!i just wonder what type of offense the redskins would run if saunders did leave?[/quote]

I think if Saunders left, we'd definitely see more of what we saw over the second half that made Betts so effective.

That being said, while I think Saunders is a candidate and a good offensive coach, I'm not 100% sold, as Matty pointed out, how good a head coach he would be. Could he be a good coach, probably so.

Would he be a playoff caliber coach, don't know?

Longtimefan 01-22-2007 01:25 PM

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I was rather suprised to see Parcells step down and leave the team he built for someone else to coach. I'm convinced his decision to leave had more to do with TO than anything else.

firstdown 01-22-2007 01:29 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;271582]I was rather suprised to see Parcells step down and leave the team he built for someone else to coach. I'm convinced his decision to leave had more to do with TO than anything else.[/quote]
I don't think Jones is that dumb to let Parcells go over TO. Now if he feels that Parcells is not getting the job done then thats a different story.

GhettoDogAllStars 01-22-2007 01:32 PM

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[QUOTE=firstdown;271584]I don't think Jones is that dumb to let Parcells go over TO. Now if he feels that Parcells is not getting the job done then thats a different story.[/QUOTE]

I think it was more of a question of how much control Jones will give Parcells. It just came to a head on the TO issue.

12thMan 01-22-2007 01:33 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;271582]I was rather suprised to see Parcells step down and leave the team he built for someone else to coach. I'm convinced his decision to leave had more to do with TO than anything else.[/quote]

You're right. Parcells, Jones, nor T.O. won't ever admit that, but I think that's the case.

But more than T.O. as an individual, I think Parcells has been turned off, in part by the media and their need to always have news or a story to report. Training camps around the NFL have turned into mini dramas that almost appear to be driven by TV ratings. Also I think he's just flat out tired of the culture in today's NFL where individuals command more attention than the team. Parcells never said that, but I think he's tired of doing other things besides 'coaching'.

Redskinhog1963 01-22-2007 01:42 PM

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maybe parcell's just got tired of the whole damned jerry jones/TO
zoo?if i had to stay around a couple of a$$holes like that most of the time,i'd quit too!

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 01-22-2007 01:50 PM

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maybe his cankles were just tired from lugging all that weight around all day long...

mooby 01-22-2007 02:08 PM

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That's great news for us, I'm glad B.P. is gone. Hopefully this sets the Cowboys back a couple of years.

htownskinfan 01-22-2007 02:27 PM

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I dont see how this is considered that good of news,what has Parcell done? they might get a coach that will be better than Parcells
If your a cowboy fan would you want gibbs to retire? 2 bad seasons,overpriced freeagent signings not working out,no gm,etc,if i'm cowboy fan I'm thinking let Joe keep running it,well,thats the way I feel about Parcells

hesscl34 01-22-2007 02:29 PM

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[quote=12thMan;271581]I think if Saunders left, we'd definitely see more of what we saw over the second half that made Betts so effective.

That being said, while I think Saunders is a candidate and a good offensive coach, I'm not 100% sold, as Matty pointed out, how good a head coach he would be. Could he be a good coach, probably so.

Would he be a playoff caliber coach, don't know?[/quote]

Our luck he would leave and take the next team he coaches to the Superbowl.

hesscl34 01-22-2007 02:30 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;271610]I dont see how this is considered that good of news,what has Parcell done? they might get a coach that will be better than Parcells
If your a cowboy fan would you want gibbs to retire? 2 bad seasons,overpriced freeagent signings not working out,no gm,etc,if i'm cowboy fan I'm thinking let Joe keep running it,well,thats the way I feel about Parcells[/quote]

Ouchy! Not nice!

Riggo44 01-22-2007 02:51 PM

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This just made my day. Bye Bye man tits! Can't wait to see who T.O get's to mess with next year.

MTK 01-22-2007 03:11 PM

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A couple of early names being tossed around as Parcells' successor; Norv Turner and Wade Phillips.

LOL

724Skinsfan 01-22-2007 03:42 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;271626]A couple of early names being tossed around as Parcells' successor; Norv Turner and Wade Phillips.

LOL[/quote]

My vote is for Wade Phillips. I wish him the same amount of success with the 'Boys as he had with the Giants.

Monkeydad 01-22-2007 03:56 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;271569]Saunders can run an offense... but how good of a head coach is he? That's the million dollar question. I really don't think he has the personality to be an effective head coach.[/quote]

If what you said is true, I hope he does to Dallas! :cheeky-sm

Monkeydad 01-22-2007 03:58 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;271626]A couple of early names being tossed around as Parcells' successor; Norv Turner and Wade Phillips.

LOL[/quote]

Well, the best of the weak field of coaches looking for jobs this offseason are already hired...except Jim Mora.

Maybe they should interview James Lofton. :D

offiss 01-22-2007 04:04 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;271506]I don't think Grimm would the splashy type of hire Jones would want. Then again, who's even out there right now?[/QUOTE]

Green and Shell. :D

SmootSmack 01-22-2007 04:07 PM

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[QUOTE=Buster;271634]Well, the best of the weak field of coaches looking for jobs this offseason are already hired...except Jim Mora.

Maybe they should interview James Lofton. :D[/QUOTE]

Seahawks hired Jim Mora

724Skinsfan 01-22-2007 04:08 PM

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Dennis Green isn't a terrible choice, actually. He's not a bad coach. Also, he's handled ego-centric WR's before fairly effectively.

Monkeydad 01-22-2007 04:39 PM

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[quote=TAFKAS;271642]Seahawks hired Jim Mora[/quote]

Didn't hear that.

AH HA!
[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/21/bc.fbn.seahawks.mora.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories]SI.com - NFL - Mora hired as Seahawks' secondary coach - Sunday January 21, 2007 2:54PM[/url]

Ok then...well, Art Shell is available! :D

SmootSmack 01-22-2007 04:41 PM

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How about Norv's brother Ron?

Beemnseven 01-22-2007 05:05 PM

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;271642]Seahawks hired Jim Mora[/QUOTE]


So, he was hired in Washington after all!

Eriwar 01-22-2007 05:37 PM

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Bill Cower a Cowboy NAH!!!!!!!!!!!!???!?!?!?@@??!?@?!?!>?@?!?!?#?!?@#?$?#@?Q??@?@!?#?@#?%@?$?%?@?%?@%^?@?@?@?#?$?

Pocket$ $traight 01-22-2007 05:48 PM

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Bye bye Manboobs. Cowboys fans probably can't chew gum and breathe right now. I hope that they sign Norv...

dblanch66 01-22-2007 08:37 PM

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Dallas Sucks.

atomicnixon 01-22-2007 08:50 PM

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Its a sad day in the traveled story of the NFC East. So many great games against the Giants back in the day. I'm glad he's gone from the Cowboys, but as a coach he was good. He made New England, not Belichick.

freddyg12 01-22-2007 09:34 PM

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when I heard norv was a candidate, I couldn't believe it. But then I thought about it, JJ might've really liked him when he was there. You would think that the word on norv is good o-coordinator but not head coach.
Norv has worked for the other 2 most meddlesome owners - The Danny & Al Davis. Working for Jones would give him the trifecta!
It would also make for good theater, which JJ seems to thrive on. I would be happy if Norv coached there, but I don't want to jinx us - it may be that the 3rd time's a charm. (norv's only had 2 heach coach jobs right?)

SmootSmack 01-22-2007 10:36 PM

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Could you imagine if Norv was hired. He'd be the only guy in history to be able to say he was a head coach under Dan Snyder, Al Davis, and Jerry Jones. He could write a book about that.

I'm a little peeved that Parcells had to make this announcement today. This day should have been about the Colts and Bears. Peyton, Dungy, Lovie. But instead it's been all about Parcells. He could have waited another day in my opinion.

Interesting though that he said "retiring from coaching" To me that says he's definitely coming back as a GM or team president somewhere. I'll throw out one possibility-Tampa Bay,

skinsguy 01-22-2007 11:24 PM

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To be honest. I don't think this is great news at all. There are a lot of high quality coaches out there who could have the Cowboys winning year in and year out. They have a team with solid players on there to inherit. But, if this coming season turns out to be a stinker for both New York and Dallas, this might be our best chance at winning the division.

redrock-skins 01-22-2007 11:33 PM

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS;271734]

I'm a little peeved that Parcells had to make this announcement today. This day should have been about the Colts and Bears. Peyton, Dungy, Lovie. But instead it's been all about Parcells. He could have waited another day in my opinion.

Interesting though that he said "retiring from coaching" To me that says he's definitely coming back as a GM or team president somewhere. I'll throw out one possibility-Tampa Bay,[/QUOTE]

The Colts and Bears have 2 weeks to hype their matchup. Today is a good day, since it is day 1 of 14 until we reach the SB. Maybe he could have waited until after the SB, but better than announcing it yesterday or even a say or two before Championship Sunday.

SmootSmack 01-22-2007 11:44 PM

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Well I wasn't even thinking so much of hyping their upcoming matchup. More so celebrating their big wins.

So how soon until someone starts a Parcells to succeed Gibbs rumor?

MTK 01-22-2007 11:51 PM

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[quote=TAFKAS;271734]Could you imagine if Norv was hired. He'd be the only guy in history to be able to say he was a head coach under Dan Snyder, Al Davis, and Jerry Jones. He could write a book about that.

I'm a little peeved that Parcells had to make this announcement today. This day should have been about the Colts and Bears. Peyton, Dungy, Lovie. But instead it's been all about Parcells. He could have waited another day in my opinion.

Interesting though that he said "retiring from coaching" To me that says he's definitely coming back as a GM or team president somewhere. I'll throw out one possibility-Tampa Bay,[/quote]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing today, the announcement kinda stole the Bears and Colts thunder. Damn that Pats-Colts game was great.


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