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[quote=skinsfan69;273652]I will take this for what it is. A grain of salt. If this is true I will only say this. NO MORE FREE AGENTS. Bringing in players from another system is just not the way to go and every Redskin fan should know this. Does anyone remember Dana Stubblefield? Or how about Dan Wilkinson?[/quote]I agree. The defensive lines biggest problem is age. We have few draft picks, and at least two need to go to this unit.

I like Kris Jenkins, but he and Griffin are very similar players. We'd be better off with Alan Branch. Gotta inject youth if we are going to survive the next few years.

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[quote=GTripp0012;273663]I agree. The defensive lines biggest problem is age. We have few draft picks, and at least two need to go to this unit.

I like Kris Jenkins, but he and Griffin are very similar players. We'd be better off with Alan Branch. Gotta inject youth if we are going to survive the next few years.[/quote]

Exactly. We need a serious youth movement on defense and it might take some time. We need to build just like Tennessee is doing it.

Jimmy Johnson was on Brian M. show today and he said the Redskins are always looking for the quick fix. Well bringing in more FA's is just a quick fix. Let's draft this year and next year and try and stockpile.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;273661]before this year no team could run on us this year teams gashed us for long yards.... up the middle enough said![/quote]

One of the problems is Joe S. keeps getting hurt. We got enough mileage out of him and if a smart GM was here, he would have realized that we needed a young player waiting in the wings. Perhaps Goldston is the player but who knows. He played ok. But the main reason we kept getting gashed on the run was Carter, Marshall and Holdman. Carter and Marshall should not be in on run downs and Holdman just needs to be cut, or be in a back-up role.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;273661]before this year no team could run on us this year teams gashed us for long yards.... up the middle enough said![/QUOTE]

I agree. We need a behemoth run stuffer. That will improve our LBs in run defense, and our DEs in pass rushing. Doesn't Branch fit that mold?

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When Kris Jenkins is healthy, he's one of the top 5 DTs in the NFL. He is so significantly better than any of the DTs on the current roster that it's not funny. In fact, I think he may be better than any DT the Skins have had for this entire milennium. Maybe the last DT the Skins had who was equal to Jenkins was Dave Butz?

The problem is that he has spent a lot of time on the sidelines with injuries. So, if the Skins were to sign him - and he will cost way more than a league minimum with incentives to get him signed - the whole thing could go south with another injury. Or, the Skins interior defensive line could get significantly better overnight if he stays in the lineup...

Alan Branch might become a premier DT in the NFL. Or he could become "Dan Wilkinson" who was also projected to be a monster on the DL for whomever was lucky enough to get him. That never quite materialized, did it?

Someone said the defensive line's major problem was age. I don't agree. I admit the defensive line is old, but more importantly, the defensive line is lacking in physical talent. That's harsh, I know. But what team in the league would trade their four defensive line starters for Carter, Griffen, Daniels and Salavea even up? Surely none of the teams in the playoffs... Yeah, I know these are great guys who fight their guts out every week, but the fact is that they don't get the job done most of the time.

Would I sign Kris Jenkins? Probably not at the price he would cost if he were out there on the free agent market. And to inherit his current contract, you'd have to trade for him and the price to acquire an All-Pro DT would not be cheap. He'd be a significant upgrade, but I think I'd have to pass on the opportunity.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;273707]Exactly. We need a serious youth movement on defense and it might take some time. We need to build just like Tennessee is doing it.

Jimmy Johnson was on Brian M. show today and he said the Redskins are always looking for the quick fix. Well bringing in more FA's is just a quick fix. Let's draft this year and next year and try and stockpile.[/QUOTE]

But don't you think a lot of that "quick fix" mentality has to do with the fans themselves? I mean, I think if blame is going to be placed on Dan Snyder for any reason it's because he still has that mentality that he did when he was "just" a fan, like most on this board. And I think he's gotten a lot better and more patient but he still gets suckered into that fan mob mentality that so many, even here, possess; where complete and utter panic sets in when we even lose a scrimmage.

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Not intending to threadjack here, but since this thread started based on a rumored Kris Jenkins sighting in the suburbs here, Pete Carroll - yes, the USC coach - was in town tonight for the Wizards' game.

Is that an indication that he's being courted by the Skins to become the Associate Assistant Head Coach - Special Teams? The Skins don't have one of those yet...

Just asking. ;)

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[QUOTE=hooskins;273449]Isn't he old?[/QUOTE]

he is 27. major injury history, one of the best run stuffers in the league. him, hampton, washington, jamal williams may be the best

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon;273737]Not intending to threadjack here, but since this thread started based on a rumored Kris Jenkins sighting in the suburbs here, Pete Carroll - yes, the USC coach - was in town tonight for the Wizards' game.

Is that an indication that he's being courted by the Skins to become the Associate Assistant Head Coach - Special Teams? The Skins don't have one of those yet...

Just asking. ;)[/QUOTE]
It all depends on who he's sitting with. Remember last offseason...

[IMG]http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/U/8/catfish1.jpg[/IMG]

..okay, I couldn't find the picture (but this one came up for some reason), but remember last year that Cooley and some other guys took Lloyg and AA to a Wizards game.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;273764]It all depends on who he's sitting with. Remember last offseason...

[IMG]http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/U/8/catfish1.jpg[/IMG]

..okay, I couldn't find the picture (but this one came up for some reason), but remember last year that Cooley and some other guys took Lloyg and AA to a Wizards game.[/quote]

Holy shit! How big was that fish? Is that a catfish?

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[quote=TAFKAS;273732]But don't you think a lot of that "quick fix" mentality has to do with the fans themselves? I mean, I think if blame is going to be placed on Dan Snyder for any reason it's because he still has that mentality that he did when he was "just" a fan, like most on this board. And I think he's gotten a lot better and more patient but he still gets suckered into that fan mob mentality that so many, even here, possess; where complete and utter panic sets in when we even lose a scrimmage.[/quote]

Of course it does. It seems most of the fans want to gas up Redskins One, go get Clements/Samuel and some more FA's. If we were one or two players away from being a Super Bowl contender then make the move. But let's face it. We have a young unproven QB, one proven wr, defensive line is a mess, one good LB, and the the 2ndary is a complete mess. So we have a ways to go and it's probably not going to get fixed in one year. So everyone needs to be more patient.

But one thing that needs to happen is Danny needs to suck it up and bring in a proven GM. For the life of me I don't understand why he spends all this $ on coaches and players but won't bring in a top GM or personel guy. MAKES NO SENSE.

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do you think if Snyder went to coach, and told him he was thinking about bringing casserly( or any other gm) in the mix, Gibbs would threaten retirement?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;274013]Of course it does. It seems most of the fans want to gas up Redskins One, go get Clements/Samuel and some more FA's. If we were one or two players away from being a Super Bowl contender then make the move. But let's face it. We have a young unproven QB, one proven wr, defensive line is a mess, one good LB, and the the 2ndary is a complete mess. So we have a ways to go and it's probably not going to get fixed in one year. So everyone needs to be more patient.

But one thing that needs to happen is Danny needs to suck it up and bring in a proven GM. For the life of me I don't understand why he spends all this $ on coaches and players but won't bring in a top GM or personel guy. MAKES NO SENSE.[/QUOTE]

Would you have been ok with the last three seasons if we had a GM? Same exact results, but a GM to go along with it.

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[quote=TAFKAS;274155]Would you have been ok with the last three seasons if we had a GM? Same exact results, but a GM to go along with it.[/quote]

i wouldn't be ok with it, cause that GM would have been doing a terrible job.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;274159]i wouldn't be ok with it, cause that GM would have been doing a terrible job.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. But so many people just say "We need a GM" and figure it will all be solved instantly. Tell that to the Lions

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[quote=TAFKAS;273732]But don't you think a lot of that "quick fix" mentality has to do with the fans themselves? I mean, I think if blame is going to be placed on Dan Snyder for any reason it's because he still has that mentality that he did when he was "just" a fan, like most on this board. And I think he's gotten a lot better and more patient but he still gets suckered into that fan mob mentality that so many, even here, possess; where complete and utter panic sets in when we even lose a scrimmage.[/quote]

haha...I picture him and Vinny sitting in front of the tv in their redskins boxers, eating cheerios, playing Madden..."dude Archuletta is sick, lets get him!"
-"Dude...that's awesome"...then they high five eachother

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;274204]haha...I picture him and Vinny sitting in front of the tv in their redskins boxers, eating cheerios, playing Madden..."dude Archuletta is sick, lets get him!"
-"Dude...that's awesome"...then they high five eachother[/QUOTE]
I like to think of Dan Snyder like with giant eagles wings, and singing lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an all angel band, and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;274204]haha...I picture him and Vinny sitting in front of the tv in their redskins boxers, eating cheerios, playing Madden..."dude Archuletta is sick, lets get him!"
-"Dude...that's awesome"...then they high five eachother[/QUOTE]

Haha ... just like a couple of stoners.

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jansen was already resigned jenkins is only 27 or 28 and befor this year he missed two consecutive seasons

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check the date. this dicussion happened before jansen's extension.

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i know that i was just saying

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Rumor is Carolina is shoping him for a trade. would the forum be happy if we traded up for CJ then traded springs and a 4th for Jenkins? Personally I would be fine with it

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;295255]Rumor is Carolina is shoping him for a trade. would the forum be happy if we traded up for CJ then traded springs and a 4th for Jenkins? Personally I would be fine with it[/QUOTE]

What do you have to trade to move up though? Also, doesn't KJ have an injury history?

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[QUOTE=hooskins;273449]Isn't he old?[/QUOTE]

He is injury prone too. I think he has had major injuries for the past 3 seasons, but at the right price...FCUK it...Couldnt hurt anymore than our current lineup.

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If the asking proce is only a cornerback and a 4th round pick, Kris Jenkins would have been in Philly 30 seconds after that became known.

I suspect the asking price is lots more than that.

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good player when healthy. just wondering about his age, along with his availability

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He had real bad injury seasons in 04,05 in 2006 he was active for all 16 games. His stats below:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235221]NFL.com - Kris Jenkins[/url]

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Source: PFT.com

POSTED 10:55 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 12:52 p.m. EDT, April 7, 2007

PANTHERS SHOPPING JENKINS

When the Carolina Panthers signed defensive tackles Ma'ake Kemoeatu and Damione Lewis in 2006, some league insiders assumed that the moves were a sign that the team was thinking about to parting ways with defensive tackle Kris Jenkins.

A year later, the Panthers reportedly are trying to make it happen.

According to Pat Yasinskas the Charlotte Observer, sources from multiple teams say that the Panthers have made it clear that they would be willing to trade Jenkins if the price were right. G.M. Marty Hurney declined to comment on whether Jenkins is on the trading block.

The Panthers also have Jorden Carstens under contract, and recently signed Chad Lavalais.

Jenkins started 16 games in 2006, and made it back to the Pro Bowl after two seasons that were marred by injury. But he has skipped out on the start of the team's offseason program, despite having a $175,000 workout bonus in his contract.

We're hoping that Jenkins gets traded to the Raiders, so that he can play alongside his idol (eye roll), Warren Sapp. Said Jenkins about Sapp in 2005: "I hate him. Everybody says I'm supposed to be polite when I talk to you all, but I hate him. He talks too much, he doesn’t make sense, he's fat, he's sloppy, he acts like he's the best thing since sliced bread. He's ugly, he stinks, his mouth stinks, his breath stinks, and basically his soul stinks, too."

Jenkins also said that seeing Sapp celebrate on the Panthers' home field after a 2004 game that Jenkins missed due to a season-ending shoulder injury drove Jenkins to stop going to the team's games -- and to increase his consumption of alcohol.

Though Jenkins made a strong comeback in 2006, our guess is that other teams are still concerned about his work ethic, and his ability to stay healthy. It's a risk-reward thing, and the question is whether the potential downside will make another team shy away from a guy who still has a solid potential upside.

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It might not be too wise to get your hopes up about landing Jenkins under any circumstances. He went to school here in the area but he has no love for the Redskins. I have actually heard him in interviews say how much he hates the Redskins and the fans. I'm not so sure I would want a player who has made disparaging remarks like that on the team.

Granted he's a talent (when healthy) but I would consider passing on him.

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Hi to everybody,
I'm new here... My first post!
Jenkins would be Christmas come early for myself!!! I'd love to see him in burgundy and gold... just as long as he picks a different number, Thomas owns 77 in DC :)

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[QUOTE=tazhog;295295]Hi to everybody,
I'm new here... My first post!
Jenkins would be Christmas come early for myself!!! I'd love to see him in burgundy and gold... just as long as he picks a different number, Thomas owns 77 in DC :)[/QUOTE]


Welcome tazhog...Think twice about Jenkins. Many think of the talent he would bring and not the excess baggage. He's prone to injury, and would command a sizeable contract. His first three years were decent though he benifited greatly from playing next to Julius Peppers.

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[quote=Longtimefan;295297]Welcome tazhog...Think twice about Jenkins. Many think of the talent he would bring and not the excess baggage. He's prone to injury, and would command a sizeable contract. His first three years were decent though he benifited greatly from playing next to Julius Peppers.[/quote]Always be wary of the players who are really good at the beginning of their careers, but at the point when they [I]should[/I] be entering their primes, they regress. Such is the overrated player in the NFL.

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Even though Jenkins had a nice come back season last year even made the pro-bowl. I have my doubts about him. I would pass on Jenkins.

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my bro is a big panther fan and says he is kind of getting old with all the injuries

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I'd rather see us end up with a DT in the draft. But if we end up doing something stupid like trading for Lance Briggs or Asante Samuel, then I'd be all for Kris Jenkins.

SOMETHING has to be done at DT.