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That Guy 03-18-2007 11:12 AM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
you can't trade down past #10 and get landry, and once again, i REALLY think that that'd be a mistake. PP is good enough, our DL isn't.

4mrusmc 03-18-2007 11:14 AM

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Personally I'm tired of the talk and activity on/about corner backs and safteties. WE NEED HELP ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE!!! Is it me or does it seem that since Gibbs has come back that come draft time, we have not gotten any of our needs addresed.......At all!!!!

Gmanc711 03-18-2007 11:42 AM

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[QUOTE=That Guy;288840]you can't trade down past #10 and get landry, and once again, i REALLY think that that'd be a mistake. PP is good enough, our DL isn't.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. PP is perfect type of compliment just like Clark was. We dont need to star safties back there.

dall-assblows 03-18-2007 12:05 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
who is pp

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 03-18-2007 12:07 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=4mrusmc;288841]Personally I'm tired of the talk and activity on/about corner backs and safteties. WE NEED HELP ON THE DEFENSIVE LINE!!! Is it me or does it seem that since Gibbs has come back that come draft time, we have not gotten any of our needs addresed.......At all!!!![/quote]

well possibly quarterback and cornerback depending on how Rodgers and Campbell play this season

That Guy 03-18-2007 01:01 PM

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[quote=dall-assblows;288849]who is pp[/quote]

pearson prioleau, our starting SS who went on IR after 1 snap in the regular season (special teams injury). really unlucky break :/. he's pretty solid though. he played #3 safety and #4 corner two years ago and did well in both.

skinsfan_nn 03-18-2007 01:22 PM

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[quote=That Guy;288862]pearson prioleau, our starting SS who went on IR after 1 snap in the regular season (special teams injury). really unlucky break :/. he's pretty solid though. he played #3 safety and #4 corner two years ago and did well in both.[/quote]

Come on dallass......who is PP??

Yea that was a big blow to the team and PP.
That torn ACL is a tough injury to overcome for alot of players, hopefully he'll make it back? my understanding is the PT is going as planned.
Opening kick-off 9/11 against the vikqueens....BIG BUMMER!

rvd420 03-18-2007 02:10 PM

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try getting an autogragh from archy and youll find out why he is a fan hater.fox is not a top tier safety but he is a good back up.

dall-assblows 03-18-2007 06:19 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=That Guy;288862]pearson prioleau, our starting SS who went on IR after 1 snap in the regular season (special teams injury). really unlucky break :/. he's pretty solid though. he played #3 safety and #4 corner two years ago and did well in both.[/quote]

oh yea him

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-18-2007 06:24 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=dall-assblows;288849]who is pp[/quote]


pierson prioleau

rvd420 03-18-2007 08:12 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
pp is good when healthy.

mike340 03-18-2007 10:11 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
He said NOT to eat yellow snow. ;-)

[QUOTE=rvd420;288925]pp is good when healthy.[/QUOTE]

holcknowsbest 03-18-2007 10:35 PM

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i hope i dont insult anyone, but PP is not good enough...he is nothing like clark either...and if you are going to put you faith in a guy coming off of a torn acl, well thats mindless....its a 2 year injury, they come back in 1 but they are not the same until the following year....not good logic if you ask me, plus you get better pass rush if you can come with more players. adding a guy like laron landry would do this for you so in a sense he would help the pass rush.....and its very understandable he wont be there with the 10th pick because of atlanta, which is good for us but if we stay at 6 or trade back to 8 like people are saying i think he is the best pick we can make....2nd best player in this draft.

That Guy 03-18-2007 10:44 PM

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sorry, but trying to tell me a safety is going to improve the pass rush more than a DE just ain't gonna fly.

Skins_4_Lyfe 03-18-2007 10:47 PM

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A little off topic...but does anyone know when the schedules will be released, I can't remember if they're done before or after the draft.

GTripp0012 03-18-2007 11:06 PM

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;288939]A little off topic...but does anyone know when the schedules will be released, I can't remember if they're done before or after the draft.[/quote]First week of April usually.

GTripp0012 03-18-2007 11:09 PM

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[quote=That Guy;288936]sorry, but trying to tell me a safety is going to improve the pass rush more than a DE just ain't gonna fly.[/quote]That Guy, what's your opinion on Carter as a rush end? Physical monster who can grow if he improves the quality of his moves, or one-dimensional speed rusher who lacks the skill set to be a dominant pass rusher in today's game?

Or somewhere in between?

Skins_4_Lyfe 03-18-2007 11:25 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;288945]First week of April usually.[/quote]
Thanks

That Guy 03-18-2007 11:56 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=GTripp0012;288946]That Guy, what's your opinion on Carter as a rush end? Physical monster who can grow if he improves the quality of his moves, or one-dimensional speed rusher who lacks the skill set to be a dominant pass rusher in today's game?

Or somewhere in between?[/quote]


i'd shy away from calling him a physical monster. maybe a gym rat, but that's a bit different. if he wants to e dominant, he needs more bulk, but i'm not sure there's much space for it. I think improving his technique and his moves a bit will help him, but he'll alway be prone to being pushed around. maybe on a line with 3 other studs he'd look dominant, but with griff and two vet min guys, it's not happening.

rvd420 03-19-2007 05:05 PM

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dont count out bly coming here cause he hasnt even shown his face in denver.he didnt even show up for denvers player introductory press conference.

That Guy 03-19-2007 07:44 PM

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[quote=rvd420;289054]dont count out bly coming here cause he hasnt even shown his face in denver.he didnt even show up for denvers player introductory press conference.[/quote]

no one has. but feel free to post the same thing 14 MORE times across 3 more threads.

steveo395 03-19-2007 07:58 PM

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[B]Bears | Archuleta a trade possibility[/B]
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:43:02 -0700
Adam Schefter, of [COLOR=black]NFL[/COLOR] Network, reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL] will target [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] S [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Archuleta[/COLOR][/URL] in a trade.

STPainmaker 03-19-2007 08:05 PM

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[quote=steveo395;289151][B]Bears | Archuleta a trade possibility[/B]
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:43:02 -0700
Adam Schefter, of [COLOR=black]NFL[/COLOR] Network, reports the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL] will target [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] S [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Archuleta[/COLOR][/URL] in a trade.[/quote]

He will probably have 10 INTS and 10 sacks with them. Lovie will come out looking like a genius.

skinsfan_nn 03-19-2007 08:07 PM

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That would not surprise me in the least, that's certainly his best chance....return with lovie. I hope we get something outta this thing if it does happen? Not sure were Lovie & co. stand in the draft???

Sure would be nice to get ANYTHING outta this boat anchor!

diehardskin2982 03-19-2007 08:09 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
3rd pick

skinsfan_nn 03-19-2007 08:10 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=STPainmaker;289153]He will probably have 10 INTS and 10 sacks with them. Lovie will come out looking like a genius.[/quote]

That's pushin it. But it wouldn't surprise me, if he were to have a comeback season, he couldn't be any worse than he was last year for us? Good Luck!! Don't Come Back! :Flush:

skinsfan_nn 03-19-2007 08:12 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;289157]3rd pick[/quote]

SOLD! :)

That Guy 03-19-2007 08:14 PM

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if we get a 5th or 6th rounder i'd be surprised. he'd basically be on a two year vet min contract with them.

$9+mill for a 2nd day draft pick.... go skins!

STPainmaker 03-19-2007 08:26 PM

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[quote=That Guy;289161]

$9+mill for a 2nd day draft pick.... go skins![/quote]


LOL

Thats a great deal for our front office. ;)

bedlamVR 03-19-2007 08:50 PM

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We cannot afford the hit right now so the Bears would have to eat some garunteed money BUT you just cannot get over the feeling they would be getting a bargin.

People say how much we overspent last year but how much would these guys have cost us this year . Deon Grant (sp) got more than Archuletta from the Seahawks a few days ago and how much did the Eagles just give Curtis?

I think if there is a trade there has to be a buy back of at least $4 million because right now he would cost us more to cut or trade than sit at home.

A second or third round pick would be a gift but we have no real insentive to deal the guy... this is not a Ramsey or Gardner situation where it is obvious we want to deal them.

skinsfan_nn 03-19-2007 08:59 PM

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[quote=bedlamVR;289166]We cannot afford the hit right now so the Bears would have to eat some garunteed money BUT you just cannot get over the feeling they would be getting a bargin.

People say how much we overspent last year but how much would these guys have cost us this year . Deon Grant (sp) got more than Archuletta from the Seahawks a few days ago and how much did the Eagles just give Curtis?

I think if there is a trade there has to be a buy back of at least $4 million because right now he would cost us more to cut or trade than sit at home.

A second or third round pick would be a gift but we have no real insentive to deal the guy... this is not a Ramsey or Gardner situation where it is obvious we want to deal them.[/quote]


The real insentive to get rid of this guy is he's no good. I'm sure there is only more behind the scenes...we'll never really know? What I think we all know is what he did or should I say did not do last year. LEASON LEARNED! Hopefully?

By the way, we do have the money to part ways with ARCH NOW!
If we can get a late draft outta this guy, cut your losses now, learn a lesson and MOVE ON!

That Guy 03-19-2007 10:02 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
we can part with arch now, though it'd obviously be better if the bears would try to take a couple mill off our cap.

calia 03-19-2007 10:17 PM

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Let me propose this trade: Chicago gets Archuletta and Rocky McIntosh, we get Lance Briggs. Briggs wants out of Chicago, and Chicago liked Archuletta from the get go. Perhaps we can make this work in terms of the cap (although admittedly, I don't see how), but a LB core of Fletcher, Briggs, and Washington ought to make Tiki glad he's retired.

That Guy 03-19-2007 11:26 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=calia;289181]Let me propose this trade: Chicago gets Archuletta and Rocky McIntosh, we get Lance Briggs. Briggs wants out of Chicago, and Chicago liked Archuletta from the get go. Perhaps we can make this work in terms of the cap (although admittedly, I don't see how), but a LB core of Fletcher, Briggs, and Washington ought to make Tiki glad he's retired.[/quote]

while briggs trade value is down, rocky + arch combined are worthless since one ended up as a punt protector and the other was nothing more than a part-time special teamer anyways. they could get a lot more than that from a lot of other teams.

Smurf85 03-20-2007 12:10 AM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;289157]3rd pick[/quote]

Happy Meal!

skinsfan_nn 03-20-2007 12:42 PM

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Tuesday's almost gone with the wind! P.S. Thanks, LYNYRD SKYNYRD!

What's gonna shake for ARCH tomorrow?:)

BeastsoftheNFCeast 03-20-2007 12:45 PM

Re: JLC: We should know the status of ARCH by Wednesday.
 
[quote=calia;289181]Let me propose this trade: Chicago gets Archuletta and Rocky McIntosh, we get Lance Briggs. Briggs wants out of Chicago, and Chicago liked Archuletta from the get go. Perhaps we can make this work in terms of the cap (although admittedly, I don't see how), but a LB core of Fletcher, Briggs, and Washington ought to make Tiki glad he's retired.[/quote]


That would be a bad trade for us, Briggs would cost a mountain of $$$ which is precious cap room that needs to be spent elsewhere.

ArtMonkDrillz 03-20-2007 12:49 PM

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[QUOTE=BeastsoftheNFCeast;289344]That would be a bad trade for us, Briggs would cost a mountain of $$$ which is precious cap room that needs to be spent elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
I agree, plus I can't see another team taking over Arch's contract without expecting us to eat a good portion of it.
His agent says they will not give up any of the money that he was originally guaranteed, so I can't see how we'll trade him any time soon.

skinsfan_nn 03-20-2007 09:08 PM

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So much for Wednesday! This thread can have a early departure!
WHO'S NEXT?

hooskins 03-20-2007 10:50 PM

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Give JLC his props, everyone talks shit about him after his famous article, but the man was right.


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