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TenandSix:Unacceptable 03-23-2007 05:28 PM

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Considering how pathetic and depressing last season was, I would say that Arch´s ESPN article was worth the 5mil the team payed for his one lousy year. Great Read.

JoeRedskin 03-23-2007 05:39 PM

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic;290692]Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember Arch ever making the probowl, but I may be wrong. I thought he was a mediocre safety even in St. Louis.

5RINGS 03-23-2007 05:43 PM

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WOW!!

Thanks for all the good tidings Redskins fans!!

#56 I have a problem with the notion of weak coverage as a Strong Safety. As you all know, Dallas also has a SS that has Questionable cover skills.

At some point your Strong Safety is going to have to cover.
I don't think that you can blame the coach for asking his Strong Safety to cover.


I also think whoever suggested that Arch was insurance for ST might be right...

JoeRedskin 03-23-2007 06:07 PM

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Just double checked Pro bowl rosters from 1999 - 2005. No Archuleta.

I thought he might turn out to be a good signing for us - but, alas, he really does have the football instincts of a blind gopher. Good luck to him in Chi-town. When he comes back, just isolate cooley on him and watch how well he is "in position".

skinsfan_nn 03-23-2007 06:30 PM

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[quote=#56fanatic;290692]Arch was a probowler in St Louis for a reason. He was a stud at run support, and playing cover 2. I am not making excuses for the guy, but GW brought him in here, showed him game film of what he would be doing, and GW didn't put him in those positions. Everyone knew he couldn't cover that well, but GW put him in coverage ONE ON ONE mind you!! that is the responsibility of the coach to know your players limitations. he didn't get burned in ST Louis because he was always over the top, not ONE ON ONE. I have a hard time believing the guy "forgot" or couldn't learn how to play football with us. I think, putting him in the right position, he could be a very good player. He is awesome at blitzing, and playing close like a LB. the whole damn league knew he couldn't cover one on one, but GW's ego thought he could make him a cover safety. Why do you think people went after him time after time! I think he didn't get a fair shake from the stand point of what they said he was going to be doing. I feel bad for the guy, he wasted a whole year of his career sitting on the bench being punt team capt. (it reaks of the whole LaVar thing. Teams, GMs, media, football experts didn't understand why GW wasn't playing LaVar or putting him in position to be the playmaker everyone knew he was. ) sorry for the LaVar sidenote.. but its a similar situation. Both players fell out of favor and basically got tossed aside. GW has to put his ego in check and learn to use his talent in the way it helps the team. to use a persons talent. Arch may not have been good for GW's system, I believe everyone knew that. I hope Arch does well in his new uni - I am sure he will.[/quote]

And what year was that he was a probowler???? Looked from 1999-2005 NO ARCH? Where did you get your info?

They brought ARCH in to play many different variations in the GW defense, I'm sure that was explained very well to him as all GW defensive schemes can be complex....you HAVE to be able to think, WHICH HE CAN NOT. Whether it's cover 1, or man on man. Doesn't matter, you HAVE TO be more than ONE dimensional in a GW defense, or any system in my opinion.

And they finally did find the right position for ARCH, ON THE BENCH WHERE HE BELONGED! :Flush:

freddyg12 03-23-2007 06:38 PM

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I don't think his comments are that bad. IF he really didn't talk to the coaches & there was that much tension, you have to say that w/out knowing anymore than that, the coaches have a great deal of blame. It does bother me that they've gotten into these personal situations w/Lavar & AA.

On the bright side, Gibbs won't tolerate that kind of behavior from coaches or players & now that AA is gone they may be able to start from a clean slate of sorts.

Longtimefan 03-23-2007 06:42 PM

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The AA experiment was a unique one to say the least, I just hope to FO has learned form this experience and not be so ready to hand out the type contract we gave AA knowing his limitations. I have nothing personal against the man because I don't know him, but it will be interesting to see if he rebounds from his experience here in Washington.

GiantsSuck703 03-23-2007 06:55 PM

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There should be questions about our front office, players come and go here more than anywhere else. I didnt think what he said was all that bad, hell AP was much worse when he left and we still like him, and AP still takes shots at this organization. It didnt work out here for Archuleta, but he was a good guy about it, didnt complain when he sat on the bench and wasnt a problem in the locker room, I wish him all the best in Chicago and would much rather get back to talking about the Redskins.

xxjuschylnxx 03-23-2007 06:59 PM

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he's not taking a shot at anyone. in fact, i think that he handled it in a very professional manner.

Skinny Tee 03-23-2007 07:08 PM

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Good thing Arch knows how to hold his tounge because if he spoke any smack against my skins I would have to tell everyone about the roids he's on.

Next time he wants to sneak around and sellout the Skins to ESPN, he better show his poc-marked face.

GiantsSuck703 03-23-2007 07:16 PM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;290777]Good thing Arch knows how to hold his tounge because if he spoke any smack against my skins I would have to tell everyone about the roids he's on.

Next time he wants to sneak around and sellout the Skins to ESPN, he better show his poc-marked face.[/quote]

Arent steriods supposed to make you better?

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 03-23-2007 07:19 PM

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;290782]Arent steriods supposed to make you better?[/quote]

haha...ba-zing!

Arch: why do these pills say "M" on them?

Drug Dealer: Uuuhh...thats for muscle

Longtimefan 03-23-2007 07:28 PM

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[QUOTE=GiantsSuck703;290772]There should be questions about our front office, players come and go here more than anywhere else. I didnt think what he said was all that bad, hell AP was much worse when he left and we still like him, and AP still takes shots at this organization. It didnt work out here for Archuleta, but he was a good guy about it, didnt complain when he sat on the bench and wasnt a problem in the locker room, I wish him all the best in Chicago and would much rather get back to talking about the Redskins.[/QUOTE]



It has been almost a common practice when players are released or terminated for whatever reason, they often make disparaging or derogatory remarks about the team they're departing. It happens all the time. I recall when Mike Sellers first left and went to Cleveland, he also had some not so nice things to say about the Redskins. He's back now, playing very well for us, and is being embraced by all. I don't put a lot of stock in what disgruntled players have to say when they leave for whatever the reason because it happens with many players on most teams.

GiantsSuck703 03-23-2007 08:00 PM

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[quote=Longtimefan;290791]It has been almost a common practice when players are released or terminated for whatever reason, they often make disparaging or derogatory remarks about the team they're departing. It happens all the time. I recall when Mike Sellers first left and went to Cleveland, he also had some not so nice things to say about the Redskins. He's back now, playing very well for us, and is being embraced by all. I don't put a lot of stock in what disgruntled players have to say when they leave for whatever the reason because it happens with many players on most teams.[/quote]

Thats very true, It just seems to happen with this organization more often than others.

SmootSmack 03-23-2007 08:05 PM

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[QUOTE=GiantsSuck703;290796]Thats very true, It just seems to happen with this organization more often than others.[/QUOTE]

I think it's just that you pay closer attention to this team than others. We all do

henry12portis26 03-23-2007 10:02 PM

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Let him talk... he sucks now cuz of his knee injuries and lost his speed for coverage... the only thing he can talk about is his playboy model girlfriend...damn!

GiantsSuck703 03-23-2007 11:17 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;290798]I think it's just that you pay closer attention to this team than others. We all do[/quote]

Thats probably true

CancunCantinaBartender 03-24-2007 12:56 PM

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Makes me mad that I even thought about liking this guy! What a joke. How did he even get the rep of being a good player?

GMScud 03-24-2007 03:37 PM

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[quote=CancunCantinaBartender;290894]Makes me mad that I even thought about liking this guy! What a joke. How did he even get the rep of being a good player?[/quote]

The guy is a physical specimen and a machine in workouts, but even when he was used "correctly" in St. Louis under Lovie Smith he was still never more than just a slightly above average safety. He's got a good nose for the ball though. If I were him I would have put on 10-15lbs and played OLB. Probably would have been a better pro at that position (which he played in college anyway).

redskinsfanatic 03-24-2007 05:38 PM

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he can say anything he wants too,good or bad.the important thing is his ass is out of the burgundy and gold forever!

beatdallas 03-24-2007 06:47 PM

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I dont know what we're going to do now that we've lost that guy from the Rams that couldnt cover a bed with a blanket.


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