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Another game in Tampa, what's up with that??

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I like the Detroit, GB, and AZ stretch.

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[quote=FRPLG;296500]why do we play TB every year? It makes no sense.[/quote]

I won't complain...we can beat them every year if the refs cooperate with elbow calls. :)


We COULD be playing the Colts every year...so I won't complain.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;296510]I like the Detroit, GB, and AZ stretch.[/quote]

Don't forget about the Giants...they're gonna stink this year! :food-smil

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You know on paper this schedule looks to be pretty favorable for the Skins.

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Shouldn't the Giants and the Dolphins both have their bye's week 7 considering they have to play week 8 IN FRIGGIN' LONDON?? That is so dumb. And it's considered a home game for the Dolphins! That would make me puke if I was a Fins fan. And as a Skins fan I'm glad the Giants have to play a game overseas...

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[quote=FRPLG;296500]why do we play TB every year? It makes no sense.[/quote]

As I recall, when the nfl realigned the divisions a few years back, the formula for determining out of divison games was to be based on 2 things in no particular order:
- geography, keep teams playing close to home to build regional rivalries, improve travel attendance
- won-loss records, we have been about equal to tampa in recent years so that's probably why we get them as opposed to Carolina, which is closer & would be a natural rivalry if we played them every year

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We have to play in the Meadowlands TWICE this season--Joe Gibbs can't be happy about that!

But, as always, the big thing is the division. Control the division, and you control your fate.

THe schedule looks fine to me--Chicago has a short week as well, and they have to travel, so that's no so bad. The quick bye is a bummer, but that's the way it goes.

And I agree about the fact that we don't have to play teams coming off their bye weeks--that sucked last year (3 teams? 4?).

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How can Tampa be a regional rivalry?

Sure we're in the same time zone...but as you said, Carolina would make more sense.

Actually, BALTIMORE would make the most sense...I'd like to see us start an in-state rivalry that could be as good as the Cleveland/Pittsbugh games.

The formula is obviously broken since the teams in the same states don't play each other (PIT/PHI, NJ Jets/NJ Giants, TB/MIA) unless they're in the same division (Jets/Bills, CIN/CLE).

I think chimps are making the schedules.

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well paid chimps...

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[quote=freddyg12;296521]As I recall, when the nfl realigned the divisions a few years back, the formula for determining out of divison games was to be based on 2 things in no particular order:
- geography, keep teams playing close to home to build regional rivalries, improve travel attendance
- won-loss records, we have been about equal to tampa in recent years so that's probably why we get them as opposed to Carolina, which is closer & would be a natural rivalry if we played them every year[/quote]

No. The formula is:

- Every year, you play your division foes twice apiece, home and home.
- Each year, you rotate against an out of conference division. For example, year one, you play all four teams in the AFC East, as do the other teams in your division. The next year, you face the AFC North. And so on. This year, the AFC East squares off against the NFC East.
- Each year, you rotate against the 3 other divisions within your conference. This year, the NFC East faces the NFC North, and the NFC South faces the NFC West. You rotate this every year.

That makes a total of 14 common opponents between division rivals. It balances the schedule.

- The remaining two games on the schedule are against two teams from your conference, outside of your division, outside of the division you're already facing, and who finished the same place as you last year in their division. Last year, we were last in the NFC East. Last year, the Bucs were last in the NFC South. So we match up. We also match up against the Cards, who were last in the NFC West. Meanwhile, the Eagles (first in the NFC East) get the Saints (first in the south) and the Seahawks (first in the West).

So, the reason we've faced Tampa every year is simply luck of the draw. We've finished in the same place as them just about every year.

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vagiants get bye after they go to london. I guess this is what ernie acorsi was talking to NFL about when he "paid them a visit" last week. Schedule blows...2-14 at BEST.

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You guys notice how the NFC Beast will have 6 primetime games in the first 9 weeks of the season.

That's the Beast that I know and love!

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[quote=Schneed10;296528]No. The formula is:

- Every year, you play your division foes twice apiece, home and home.
- Each year, you rotate against an out of conference division. For example, year one, you play all four teams in the AFC East, as do the other teams in your division. The next year, you face the AFC North. And so on. This year, the AFC East squares off against the NFC East.
- Each year, you rotate against the 3 other divisions within your conference. This year, the NFC East faces the NFC North, and the NFC South faces the NFC West. You rotate this every year.

That makes a total of 14 common opponents between division rivals. It balances the schedule.
[/quote]

I knew that!


[quote=Schneed10;296528]
- The remaining two games on the schedule are against two teams from your conference, outside of your division, outside of the division you're already facing, and who finished the same place as you last year in their division. Last year, we were last in the NFC East. Last year, the Bucs were last in the NFC South. So we match up. We also match up against the Cards, who were last in the NFC West. Meanwhile, the Eagles (first in the NFC East) get the Saints (first in the south) and the Seahawks (first in the West).

So, the reason we've faced Tampa every year is simply luck of the draw. We've finished in the same place as them just about every year.[/quote]


I did NOT know that! Makes sense. Thanks!

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[quote=GMScud;296499]I think week 9 is the last week of byes. That being the case, we are just slightly less than halfway to the bye midpoint, if that means anything. Week four does feel early though.[/quote] byes run weeks 3-10 so 4 is quite early. That is the only thing about our schedule that i hate.

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It has nothing to do with regional rivalries. It's actually pretty easy to figure out.

We're in the NFC East, obviously. That means that we play the 3 other teams in our division at home and away (6 games, total). Then we play another division from the NFC and one from the AFC (8 total games) The divisions that we play rotate each year. For the last 2 games we play the teams from the other two NFC divisions that we did not play that had the same divisional ranking that we did last season.

So, last year we played TB because we played the entire NFC South. This year we play them because we both finished 4th in our respective divisions last year. It's pure coincidence that we've had to play them 6 years in a row (or whatever).

As far as having to play them in TB 4 times in a row, I'm at a lose on that one.

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Damn you Schneed! I wanted to sound smart for once!

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This schedule isn't that great, but I'm not complaining. Look at the Raiders schedule, they were the worst team in the NFL last year and this year they have the worst schedule. I do wish the NFL would have a lot more change when it comes to passing out national t.v. games, I can't believe the Cowboys got 7.

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[QUOTE=Buster;296526]Actually, BALTIMORE would make the most sense...I'd like to see us start an in-state rivalry that could be as good as the Cleveland/Pittsbugh games.[/QUOTE]Pitt and Cleveland are in the same state? DC is in Maryland?

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[QUOTE=sbaughone;296529]vagiants get bye after they go to london. I guess this is what ernie acorsi was talking to NFL about when he "paid them a visit" last week. Schedule blows...2-14 at BEST.[/QUOTE]

That was determined when they announced the game months ago. Both teams get a bye coming off of it. It is a condition of the whole situation.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;296515]You know on paper this schedule looks to be pretty favorable for the Skins.[/QUOTE]

I think so. I think the only teams that we need to actually fear are those in our division and the Pats. Outside of them, every other team is beatable.

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The toughest thing early is having to face the Eagles, likely divisional champs (besides us), on their turf on MNF week #2. That looks like a tough loss for us, but an upset would be an incredible tone-setter to the season.

Then, we face the Eagles a 2nd time sandwiched in that brutal 4-game midseason stretch. We can't go 0-2 in those games.

The good news is that by the time we face the Cowboys, we're going to be supremely battle tested and ready. I just hope we won't be coming off an 0-3 stretch when we face the Cowboys. Even 1 win against New England, Jets, Philadelphia is going to feel damn good, and 2 would be unbelievable.

I notice the Patriots play the Colts the week after they play us, so we might catch them looking past us.

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[quote=Schneed10;296528]No. The formula is:

- Every year, you play your division foes twice apiece, home and home.
- Each year, you rotate against an out of conference division. For example, year one, you play all four teams in the AFC East, as do the other teams in your division. The next year, you face the AFC North. And so on. This year, the AFC East squares off against the NFC East.
- Each year, you rotate against the 3 other divisions within your conference. This year, the NFC East faces the NFC North, and the NFC South faces the NFC West. You rotate this every year.

That makes a total of 14 common opponents between division rivals. It balances the schedule.

- The remaining two games on the schedule are against two teams from your conference, outside of your division, outside of the division you're already facing, and who finished the same place as you last year in their division. Last year, we were last in the NFC East. Last year, the Bucs were last in the NFC South. So we match up. We also match up against the Cards, who were last in the NFC West. Meanwhile, the Eagles (first in the NFC East) get the Saints (first in the south) and the Seahawks (first in the West).

So, the reason we've faced Tampa every year is simply luck of the draw. We've finished in the same place as them just about every year.[/quote]

ok, so I at least was on track w/the w-l part of it.
Maybe I was confusing the regional aspect w/the actual realignment of the divisions themselves.

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[quote=FRPLG;296456]Not too happy on the week 4 bye but we do end at home with Dallas.

Oct 28 @New England 4:15pm
Nov 4 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Nov 11 Philadelphia 1:00pm
Nov 18 @Dallas 1:00pm
Nov 25 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm


That stretch is rough but nothing stnds out to me as terrible. Other than the bye. I much rather have the week 11 bye or something.[/quote]I agree. Weeks 8-11 look brutal. The good news is that those out of conference road games are probably the least critical games on the entire schedule. What I'm worried about is the effect that a 2 week road trip to the northeast may have on our performance against two straight division opponents.

If we want to contend for the division, I don't see anyway we could do with without beating Philly at home on Nov. 11.

The key to the whole season is to get off to a good start in our first six games. We can't afford to be any worse than 4-2 over that stretch.

I like that we get the toughest game on our schedule, a road game at Philly, in the seasons second week. The chances that we are healthy then are much greater than at any other point in the season, and Philly's strong depth won't play as much of a factor in Week 2 as it will later in the season, when we get them in Landover. We might need to win both to take the division.

All in all I think this is a realitively advantageous schedule. Outside of that one stretch in the middle of the season, our weak opponents are spaced out, which does decrease the chances that we get beat by one of them.

9 wins doesn't seem too unreasonable.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;296469]Having to play the Bears on only 4 days rest is going to BLOW, even if the game is at home![/quote]Well, the Bears are also playing us on 4 days rest and both teams get 10 days to prepare for their next opponent.

For us, its a game at the Giants.

I'd say that this is adventageous actually.

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[quote=GTripp0012;296601]I agree. Weeks 8-11 look brutal. The good news is that those out of conference road games are probably the least critical games on the entire schedule. What I'm worried about is the effect that a 2 week road trip to the northeast may have on our performance against two straight division opponents.

If we want to contend for the division, I don't see anyway we could do with without beating Philly at home on Nov. 11.

The key to the whole season is to get off to a good start in our first six games. We can't afford to be any worse than 4-2 over that stretch.

I like that we get the toughest game on our schedule, a road game at Philly, in the seasons second week. The chances that we are healthy then are much greater than at any other point in the season, and Philly's strong depth won't play as much of a factor in Week 2 as it will later in the season, when we get them in Landover. We might need to win both to take the division.

All in all I think this is a realitively advantageous schedule. Outside of that one stretch in the middle of the season, our weak opponents are spaced out, which does decrease the chances that we get beat by one of them.

9 wins doesn't seem too unreasonable.[/quote]

I completely agree about the importance of that Philly game (week 2). Both teams will be jacked since it's MNF, and we'll most likely be 100% (knock on wood). And Philly most likely will not. Last I heard McNabb probably won't play until October. Philly is apparently being very cautious that Donovan doesn't pull a Culpepper. That means we'll be facing either AJ Feely or a Kelly Holcomb who hasn't run a west-coast offense before. Fine with me!

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One thing I noticed is that in the first half of the season (warmer weather) we play our away games in cold areas against Greenbay & Pats. Our second half away game are in warmer areas as Tampa and Dallas. That could help us some in our away games.

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Sep 9 Miami 1:00pm
Sep 17 @Philadelphia 8:30pm
Sep 23 N.Y. Giants 4:15pm
Week 4 BYE
Oct 7 Detroit 1:00pm
Oct 14 @Green Bay 1:00pm
Oct 21 Arizona 1:00pm
Oct 28 @New England 4:15pm
Nov 4 @N.Y. Jets 1:00pm
Nov 11 Philadelphia 1:00pm
Nov 18 @Dallas 1:00pm
Nov 25 @Tampa Bay 1:00pm
Dec 2 Buffalo 1:00pm
Dec 6 Chicago 8:15pm
Dec 16 @N.Y. Giants 8:15pm
Dec 23 @Minnesota 1:00pm
Dec 30 Dallas 1:00pm

kind of pissed that the skins never seem to get tampa bay,green bay,at home hardly ever.i dread thaat game oct 28th in patriotville!

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Pretty cool that both Smoot and Fletcher get to play against their former teams. I want to see Fletcher shake off a block from Dockery to make a tackle for a loss against whatever bum will end up running the ball for the Bills.

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I like the fact that we get to play Miami first. With Goodell takin the belt to all the screw ups I would definitely expect Porter to be suspended atleast 2 games for wooping Jone's ass in Vegas. I can't see him being aloud to suit up against us.

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[quote=holmester;296656]I like the fact that we get to play Miami first. With Goodell takin the belt to all the screw ups I would definitely expect Porter to be suspended atleast 2 games for wooping Jone's ass in Vegas. I can't see him being aloud to suit up against us.[/quote]

Wonder if Ricky will be there for the game. :cheeky-sm

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[quote=holmester;296656]I like the fact that we get to play Miami first. With Goodell takin the belt to all the screw ups I would definitely expect Porter to be suspended atleast 2 games for wooping Jone's ass in Vegas. I can't see him being aloud to suit up against us.[/quote]

Porter may be a mouth on the football field, but I think this is the first incident he has been involved in off the field. He'll probably get a fine, but I doubt he'll face suspension.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;296670]Porter may be a mouth on the football field, but I think this is the first incident he has been involved in off the field. He'll probably get a fine, but I doubt he'll face suspension.[/QUOTE]

Anyone else notice that Porter issued an apology to Jones today? Maybe Goodell's suspension of Jones and Henry is already having good collateral effects on the league and its players.

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I know the last couple years haven't gone well in Tampa, but do you really fear this as a road game? I don't.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;296671]Anyone else notice that Porter issued an apology to Jones today? Maybe Goodell's suspension of Jones and Henry is already having good collateral effects on the league and its players.[/QUOTE]
He basically admitted as much on ESPN an hour or so ago.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;296613]Well, the Bears are also playing us on 4 days rest and both teams get 10 days to prepare for their next opponent.

For us, its a game at the Giants.

I'd say that this is adventageous actually.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the more I think about it the less I think it "blows."

I also think that with Rex and Chris Benson they probably won't be the class of the NFC this year.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;296683]I also think that with Rex and Chris Benson they probably won't be the class of the NFC this year.[/QUOTE]

Cedric Benson?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;296680]He basically admitted as much on ESPN an hour or so ago.[/quote]

He also downplayed the severity of it by saying all he got was a citation and compared the situation to a speeding ticket.

Back to the Miami game, though- It'll be interesting (for the Fins anyway). Will Porter play, will Ricky Williams come back? Who will be their starting QB? Cam Cameron's first head coaching job (in the NFL). Plus it's in our house? I think we have a great chance to start the season on a high note.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;296686]Cedric Benson?[/QUOTE]Ha, my fault, I have a friend named Chris Benson. I do that all the time.

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As long as JC keeps improving and stays healthy, I do not see why we can't go 10-6 or 11-5. With the exception of the 5 game stretch, starting with the Patriots and the Jets we should get a nice run going. If Llyod can become a factor this season we will be in even better shape offensively. There is no excuses IMHO for anything less than 10-6. THe NFC East is horrid and our division is rather weak also overall. Eli isn't all that and without Tiki killing us on the ground the games against the Gmen should be manageable. Philly's time has passed and the I don't think Romo and co will be all that great this season. It(the division) is ours for the taking, yet again, but this time we need to take the damn thing. To be honest I do want the Cowboys to improve as we do. I think the NFL really needs to get that rivalry back on track to where it was with Gibbs /Laundry or even Allen/ Laundry. Colts/Patriots just isn't very intense, even with what the game has meant over the past 5 seasons. The Skins Boys had a OSU Michigan feel to it before Gibbs left.