Re: Quinn goes to Cleavland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;306326]Dallas' front 7 was pretty tight before the draft. There need is on the offensive line. If Spencer works out, great for them but that won't make them a threat to go to the Super Bowl.[/QUOTE]

Marten and Free were drafted to replace Adams next year and Columbo the following year.

This also allows a guy named Pat McQuistan, a 7th rounder from last years draft, to slide to LG and compete with Kyle Kosier.

As you may now, we resigned out PB alternate C Gurode and RT Columbo and broke the bank to sign Leonard Davis.

We got finally numbers and quality prospects

Re: Quinn goes to Cleavland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

[quote=la73hof;306333]Marten and Free were drafted to replace Adams next year and Columbo the following year.

This also allows a guy named Pat McQuistan, a 7th rounder from last years draft, to slide to LG and compete with Kyle Kosier.

As you may now, we resigned out PB alternate C Gurode and RT Columbo and broke the bank to sign Leonard Davis.

We got finally numbers and quality prospects[/quote]

You don't really believe that Davis and a 7th rounder are the final pieces to the puzzle do you?

Larry Allen has more talent in his nutsack than Leonard Davis and you couldn't get anywhere when Allen was your guard.

Re: Quinn goes to Cleavland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

[quote=5RINGS;303870]Dallas needed a Bookend for Ware since Ellis is coming off of Achilles surgery.

They did well to get Cleveland 1st next year while getting the bookend to Ware before the Pats did...[/quote]But 5Rings, isn't it going to be hard for anyone, including Spencer, to be as productive as Ellis was for you guys last year.

Seems like a lateral move to me, as a best case scenario.

Re: Quinn goes to Cleavland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;306335]You don't really believe that Davis and a 7th rounder are the final pieces to the puzzle do you?

Larry Allen has more talent in his nutsack than Leonard Davis and you couldn't get anywhere when Allen was your guard.[/QUOTE]

I like Davis @ OG only--he's a human turnstile @ either OT spot as evidenced by his stay in AZ.

I have to admit, when we signed him (before resigning Columbo) I was deeply concerned with him @ OT going yp against Strahan, Umenyiora, Kearse, Tren Cole and even Daniels

Kosier, according to what our OL coach says, graded out as our most efficent blocker

The 7th rounder from last year provides a reminder to Kosier to continue to play @ a high level and depth as do Free and Marten

LA is a once in 25 year kinda guy.

He was a pro bowler @ 3 different OL positions, including LT in '98. before he got too involved in power lifting--he lost his agility his last 4 years while in Dallas

LA in his prime and John Hannah (IMO) were the 2 best guards in NFL history

Re: Shoot, Dallas had a great draft
 

Im quite pleased

I liked our draft

And the Cleveland trade somewhat helps erase the memory of the Joey Galloway trade of 7 years ago

Re: Shoot, Dallas had a great draft
 

The worst part was that Dallas picked up an additional number one next year while drafting the guy they were going to take anyway.

Re: Shoot, Dallas had a great draft
 

[quote=djnemo65;306363]The worst part was that Dallas picked up an additional number one next year while drafting the guy they were going to take anyway.[/quote]

Exactly.

Re: Quinn goes to Cleavland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

Apparently the Cowboys are hoping to package those picks next year in an attempt to move up and take Arkansas RB Darren McFadden, whos been described by some as an LT type back.

Re: Shoot, Dallas had a great draft
 

[QUOTE=la73hof;306358]

I liked our draft

[/QUOTE]

The cow-not-quite-men got another "character-issue" man in the first. Kind of blends in with the not-quite-men part!

Re: Shoot, Dallas had a great draft
 

[QUOTE=backrow;306404]The cow-not-quite-men got another "character-issue" man in the first. Kind of blends in with the not-quite-men part![/QUOTE]

Character issue?...No

This guy has been a model citizen

Re: Quinn goes to Cleveland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

I don't see this trade as being anything overly significant, Dallas gave up a #1 and recieved a #1 next year, along with a #2 this past draft, essentially all is equal other than an extra #2 pick, both teams were able to get thier guys, if Spencer turns out to be the real deal at DE then it's a great deal for Dallas, if he's a typical DE then it's an ok deal, I am not a big Quinn guy but if he turns out to be a top 5 to 7 QB then it's a great deal for the Browns.

Re: Quinn goes to Cleveland, but Dallas gets a 2nd and a 1st next year
 

Better the "Saints" than us

WALTER THOMAS TREADS TOWARD TURD TERRITORY

Much has been written over the past week or so about Walter Thomas, a 370-pound defensive tackle who can run the 40 in 4.9 seconds and do a backflip. (But not while running the 40 in 4.9 seasons.)

But much has also been ignored (or, more accurately, glossed over), especially in the post-Pacman era.

Thomas has a pending charge of conspiracy to commit robbery. In Mississippi, that's a felony. Per the New Orleans Times-Picayune, the indictment is still on file but no court date has been set.

The incident, which a league source tells us involved ski masks in the parking lot of a Sonic restaurant, got him kicked off of a junior college team for which he was playing because he had flunked out of Oklahoma State.

[b]By the way, flunking out of Oklahoma State is pretty hard to do, given that Dexter Manley maintained academic eligibility there -- and couldn't read.

Then there's the apparent Walter Thomas MySpace page, which is troubling to the point of amusing. As a couple of readers have pointed out to us, one of the messages posted on the page reads as follows: "I heard you entered the draft. Is that right? Well its a good thing I got you to sign a whole bunch of sh-t so I can say 'yea, I used to get high with him and eat 5 cheeseburgers every wednesday!'"[/b]

So what the hell are the Saints thinking?

"It's a look-see," Saints coach Sean Payton told the T-P. "Normally, a player who's only played in two junior college football games would never come close to having an opportunity. To say he's got an uphill battle would be correct. Because of some of those characteristics, though, you take a look at him in a rookie camp and see where he's at."

As to the pending criminal charges, G.M. Mickey Loomis said: "We're aware of the incident and talked to a lot of people about it. What we understand is that it's going to get resolved. We're just going to give him a look and see for ourselves."

The message, then, is that character only counts when a team doesn't want a guy, and when the team is looking for a reason not to take him. If the team is intrigued, the team is more inclined to look the other way.

And that's the attitude that most teams seem to be applying. If the organization decides that they like the guy as a player, the team will talk its way around the character issues. If the organization decides that it doesn't like the guy as a player, then it's easy to point to the character issues as one of the reasons for taking a pass.

We predict that NFL franchises will continue to approach character issues in this manner until the Commish smacks one of them hard for harboring a guy whom they should have known had the potential to cause embarrassment to the team and the league by getting busted. Only then will teams attempt to make real assessments about whether a guy is going to be a problem, and not come up with lame-ass excuses like Sean Salisbury's explanation of safety Brandon Meriweather's history of head stomping and gun shooting. On Saturday, Salisbury called the Meriweather events "both one-time incidents."

Finally, the fact that the Saints signed Thomas while a felony charge was pending against him earns the franchise six points in the Turd Watch game.