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[quote=skinsfan69;309910]Farve would be a perfect fit for Chicago. I mean perfect. GB is still looking at between 7-9 wins as they are a middle of the pack team.[/quote]Whoa. I mean, I'm from Chicago, but even though I'm not a Bear fan by any stretch of the imagination, that's the kind of talk that puts people around here into either a blissful haze or a coma depending on who your team is.

Favre to the Bears...quickly followed by the rapture the next day.

It would improve the Bears in the short run, but it looks like they are going to let Grossman develop to his maximum potential and just deal with his shortcomings. Its probably better for the long run than cutting Grossman right as he gets to his prime and then having only the options of really old, and really young at QB.

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With this development do u think it would be unreasonable to try to shop Lloyd to Gb for, oh lets say KGB and some draft choices. I am not saying that I've given up on Lloyd but when a guy like Brett Favre (and what he means to that city and team) is unsatisfied, a franchise can be coaxed into making a bad trade just to appease him. Im just sayin I would like the skins to get the good end of one of these horrible deals for once.

Also what the hell is up with everyone not being able to spell FaVRe? I mean i know GB isn't in the same division as the skins but he has been one of the biggest names in football of the past 20 years, jeez.

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[QUOTE=Rajmahal33;309922]With this development do u think it would be unreasonable to try to shop Lloyd to Gb for, oh lets say KGB and some draft choices. I am not saying that I've given up on Lloyd but when a guy like Brett Favre (and what he means to that city and team) is unsatisfied, a franchise can be coaxed into making a bad trade just to appease him. Im just sayin I would like the skins to get the good end of one of these horrible deals for once.

Also what the hell is up with everyone not being able to spell FaVRe? I mean i know GB isn't in the same division as the skins but he has been one of the biggest names in football of the past 20 years, jeez.[/QUOTE]

Spelling Favre wrong is more forgiveable than suggesting Lloyd be traded for KGB and picks, imo.

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;309862]He is this upset because they couldn't land Moss? From my understanding, once New England entered the conversation there was no longer a chance for them to get him since Moss wanted to compete for a Superbowl. What did he think when he came back, that they were close? They are a mediocre team in the worst division in a mediocre conference. I just don't get this guy anymore.[/QUOTE]

The deal to Green Bay was all but done, just a couple of days before the draft. I remember telling Gmanc that I had just heard the trade was all but official and would be announced on draft day. But then things started unraveling. The Packers would offer no higher than a 5th when just a couple of days before it was going to be a 4th or even a 3rd. They wouldn't guarantee Moss some money even though they have it and Favre even offered to restructure his deal to pay Moss.

But it was probably a culmination of several things; the last two years their first picks have been defensive players, they didn't take care of Javon Walker (I don't really remember all the details of that actually), they let Ahman Green go.

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Maybe they have been trying to force him into retirement by not helping out the offense.

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[quote=dmek25;309909]we went this long and no one mentioned bringing him here? favre ought to kiss the packers ass for letting him keep coming back when he clearly should have retired 2 years ago, and maybe 3.[/quote]

[choir sings] [SIZE=7]HALLELUJAH !!!![/SIZE]

It's about friggin time someone said it ! Honestly HOW MANY PASSES WILL THIS GUY GET ???? Over two years this man has thrown 47 picks !!! Forty EFFIN Seven. 38 TD's and 47 picks ?!?!?!? Over the last 3 years His completion percentage has dropped from 64.1% in '04, to 61.3 in '05, to 56% in '06. He's fumbled the ball 21 times in three years; 4, 10, and 7 respectively. He's had a pretty good offensive squad to work with I mean what should he have a Pro Bowl WR core around him ?

Watching Packers games is a pain for me. For every pick this guy throws there is an excuse. We all know about Madden's man crush but let's not talk about Chris Collinsworth. LORD DOES THIS GUY HAVE A THING FOR BRET. Either the WR wasn't in the right spot which I guess is fifteen more yards downfield where the safety was which was where the ball ended up getting ? Or he doesn't have any help. Every year I have to watch a NATIONALLY COVERED press conference about this has beens decision to stay or leave. It has really become frustrating for me, and I'm sure it has become frustrating for Packers fans. Who has he helped lately ? Yeah he may make the game exciting because you never know if that 65 yard bomb will be a td or a pick ? Triple coverage, forget about it! I mean who else throws a bomb to the same guy to get it picked in the same spot two plays in a row and still get away with it ? FAVRE !!!! If any other QB in the league had done the things that he has done they wouldv'e been sent to the gallows a long time ago, but not the Bret. Oh no, he's a gunslinger ! He has balls, the fire to win at any cost. We all remember Ramseys pass to Cooley in triple coverage, but think about that every single pass play ? That'd be cool wouldn't it. He literally plays the game like he's playing Madden and he can hit the reset button because no one is around to see. I honestly forgot he won a Super Bowl, seriously and I won money off of it.

Talk about tarnishing your legacy. Just let it go Bret.

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In the future guys don't bother replying to trolls. We'll get rid of them quick enough.

Re: Brett Farve want's to be traded from Green Bay
 

[quote=love them hogs;309815]Yeah ive got to say that when I saw the thread title I was shocked.Now that I think about it you really cant blame him the way things are looking for Green Bay latley.I just never thought it would come to this.I wonder if he is thinking that he doesnt want to be like Marino.You know, great Q.B that just never made it all the way.[/quote]


I thought he has won it all?

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Favre has been to 2 Super Bowls, winning one against New England, so he doesn't have to worry about being the next Marino.

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bring him here!!! Sike, his best fit would be Miami or Lions ( like they would trade him there).

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Favre was a total moron for not retiring when he could have. The team of the mid 90's that went to 2 SB's is long past gone, and it will take awhile to get that nice combo of talent to get something special going again. I think he hurt himself with the retirement talk and with the Pack having Rodgers waiting in the wings he is expendable in the long run. He only has 2 good years left tops and who is going to spend a shit load of $$$$$$$$ on him to get him for a lousy 2 years. Look for him to be possibly shopped around, with no takers, then he will retire. I can only see a team like Miami going for him possibly since their QB situation is rather dicey, but Favre will probably ask for a ton of money. Also a team will be leary of a possible cap hit with a trade for him. Look for Favre to retire.

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[quote=skinsfan69;309911]Why retire when you can still throw like Farve? If GB would put a good team around him they could still win with him. It's not like his skills have declined like Mark Brunell's.[/quote]Except both have clearly deteriorated a bit physically. It's not biochemistry, they are just in their upper 30s. Favre's arm isn't any better compared to what it used to be than Brunell's is compared to what it used to be.

Favre and Brunell can both be starters somewhere in this league (like, Green Bay for example), but neither are in the top half of starting QBs anymore.

And for the record, I'd probably take present day Brunell over present day Favre. Brett remids me of the old guy from every disney football movie who just hasnt realized what he has become.

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He didn't "REALLY" mean it......lol

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkvrwhB18xUNeXch27uyFxk5nYcB?slug=ap-packers-favrefallout&prov=ap&type=lgns]Favre: I never really wanted to be traded - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;310009]Favre has been to 2 Super Bowls, winning one against New England, so he doesn't have to worry about being the next Marino.[/QUOTE]

yeah it took me about an hour after I got off the computer to realize what a stupid comment I had just posted.sorry.

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Damn Madden and Collinsworth? What about frigging Bradshaw since they are both Mississippi QB's? Favre can't do any wrong with Bradshaw, almost a God. Fox spent I don't know how many seasons kissing Favre's ass. He has sucked the past 3 seasons if not more. He will retire, trust me. I think he realized his mistake and is setting the stage up for this. I just can't see anybody picking him up for a year or two, unless he signs on a low $$$$$ contract

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[quote=GusFrerotte;310080]Damn Madden and Collinsworth? What about frigging Bradshaw since they are both Mississippi QB's? Favre can't do any wrong with Bradshaw, almost a God. Fox spent I don't know how many seasons kissing Favre's ass. He has sucked the past 3 seasons if not more. He will retire, trust me. I think he realized his mistake and is setting the stage up for this. I just can't see anybody picking him up for a year or two, unless he signs on a low $$$$$ contract[/quote]

He will retire, but not yet.
I believe he will suck up at least one more year in GB, when it's all said and done.

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Yeah you are probably right. Nobody would have picked him up if he was serious about it. He will end his career as a Packer, as he should. I can understand his frustration,. but why cause all the controversy at the end of your career when you are not real good trade bait so to speak? I don't give him a year. I give it a 50/50 chance he retires before the season starts. The Pack isn't going anywhere this season, so he might as well save his body from more punishment. He really needed to pack it up after 2005. By then the handwriting was on the wall the party was over in Green Bay.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;310142]Yeah you are probably right. Nobody would have picked him up if he was serious about it. He will end his career as a Packer, as he should. I can understand his frustration,. but why cause all the controversy at the end of your career when you are not real good trade bait so to speak? I don't give him a year. I give it a 50/50 chance he retires before the season starts. The Pack isn't going anywhere this season, so he might as well save his body from more punishment. He really needed to pack it up after 2005. By then the handwriting was on the wall the party was over in Green Bay.[/QUOTE]

But Green Bay finished 8-8 last year. That may not be much but 8-8 was enough to get the Giants in the playoffs. Give Favre a little help on offense and who knows

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;309942]The deal to Green Bay was all but done, just a couple of days before the draft. I remember telling Gmanc that I had just heard the trade was all but official and would be announced on draft day. But then things started unraveling. The Packers would offer no higher than a 5th when just a couple of days before it was going to be a 4th or even a 3rd. They wouldn't guarantee Moss some money even though they have it and Favre even offered to restructure his deal to pay Moss.

But it was probably a culmination of several things; the last two years their first picks have been defensive players, they didn't take care of Javon Walker (I don't really remember all the details of that actually), they let Ahman Green go.[/QUOTE]

Well I admittedly don't work for ESPN, everything I have heard is that once New England entered the conversation Green Bay was out of the equation, since Moss had so much control over where he ended up and wanted to compete for a Superbowl. Maybe they could have gotten the deal done earlier, but I think it's hard to fault the team too much in this instance. I definitely don't think they were backstabbing or misleading Favre on this, which is what he insinuated.

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just a little dig at smootsmack, djnemo65?

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[QUOTE=dmek25;310169]just a little dig at smootsmack, djnemo65?[/QUOTE]

How is that a dig? I didn't mean it that way. I meant I don't have any insider info but that I heard differently. If it sounded flippant or whatever that wasn't at all my intention.

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Favre sitting out of mandartory camp after sugery:

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/05/15/packers.favre.ap/index.html]SI.com - NFL - Favre tells paper he plans to skip Packers' minicamp - Tuesday May 15, 2007 8:34AM[/url]

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[QUOTE=djnemo65;310170]How is that a dig? I didn't mean it that way. I meant I don't have any insider info but that I heard differently. If it sounded flippant or whatever that wasn't at all my intention.[/QUOTE]

Damn man put that shovel away and stop digging! :)

Anyhow my point was that just a few days ago the Packers were in a position to end the conversation (and get a Moss) before even giving the Pats a chance to enter, re-enter actually, the conversation.

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basically, they were dragging their feet. i think alot of people forget how close the pack was to the playoffs last year

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If I was Favre I'd be pissed too. I think Moss was well worth the risk and the move could really pay off BIG for the Patriots.

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POSTED 5:37 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 6:12 a.m. EDT, May 16, 2007

PACKERS NOT EXCUSING FAVRE FROM MINICAMP?

Packers quarterback Brett Favre plans to skip this weekend's mandatory minicamp. He won't be able to practice due to offseason ankle surgery, and his daughter is graduating from high school at the end of next week.

The only problem is that the team has not yet excused him.

Per the Associated Press, team spokesman Jeff Blumb said that, as far as coach Mike McCarthy is concerned, "the camp is mandatory."

The question, then, is what will the Packers do if Favre doesn't show? He could be fined, and the team could pursue 25 percent of any signing bonus allocation applicable to the 2007 season.

At a time when Favre has been popping off about his discontent with the direction of the franchise, the team would be taking a huge risk if it forces him to show up -- or if it punishes him for not coming. And that makes us wonder whether all really is well between the team and its Hall-of-Fame quarterback.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;310503]POSTED 5:37 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 6:12 a.m. EDT, May 16, 2007

PACKERS NOT EXCUSING FAVRE FROM MINICAMP?

Packers quarterback Brett Favre plans to skip this weekend's mandatory minicamp. He won't be able to practice due to offseason ankle surgery, and his daughter is graduating from high school at the end of next week.

The only problem is that the team has not yet excused him.

Per the Associated Press, team spokesman Jeff Blumb said that, as far as coach Mike McCarthy is concerned, "the camp is mandatory."

The question, then, is what will the Packers do if Favre doesn't show? He could be fined, and the team could pursue 25 percent of any signing bonus allocation applicable to the 2007 season.

At a time when Favre has been popping off about his discontent with the direction of the franchise, the team would be taking a huge risk if it forces him to show up -- or if it punishes him for not coming. And that makes us wonder whether all really is well between the team and its Hall-of-Fame quarterback.[/quote]


who cares what mike macarthy would you attend the camp or rest your ankle and watch your daughter graduate from college

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310511]who cares what mike macarthy would you attend the camp or rest your ankle and watch your daughter graduate from college[/quote]


She's graduating from High School not college. I would still be there.

That's not the point, looks like things might be breaking down a bit. Why would they not excuse him for injury and personal reasons doesn't make a whole lotta sense.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;310548]She's graduating from High School not college. I would still be there.

That's not the point, looks like things might be breaking down a bit. Why would they not excuse him for injury and personal reasons doesn't make a whole lotta sense.[/QUOTE]

I tell you what, it feels much better to be speculating about another's team's minicamp versus our own.

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I just heard on ESPN FAVRE had a change of heart and will be at the mandatory camp, from Chris M., I'll try to find a link.

I guess so much for the family first? He's just full of suprises

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POSTED 6:23 p.m. EDT, May 16, 2007

FAVRE CAVES ON MINICAMP

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Packers quarterback Brett Favre will report for this weekend's mandatory minicamp. Favre previously had said that he will skip the minicamp due to his daughter's upcoming high school graduation, and because offseason ankle surgery will prevent him from participating in any of the on-field sessions.

But a team spokesman said earlier this week that coach Mike McCarthy regards the camp as mandatory since, you know, it is. Mandatory, that is.

Per Mort, Brett has had a change of heart, and will make the trek from Missisippi to Wisconsin.

We score the round 10-9, Packers.

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brett farve should just retire he is holding the team and organization back people are scared to say anything about him because he is such a big deal