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I'm glad Sean made that decision, and it further demonstrates why we should sometimes hold off on our initial response to a situation until it plays itself completely out. His decision was the right one, and a good one.

Had we just waited for Favre to make-up and change his mind again, there would not have been a thread about his initial stated desire.

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I never understood the fuss. I mean, you can't spell TAYLOR w/o O-T-A.

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[QUOTE=724Skinsfan;310310]I never understood the fuss. I mean, you can't spell TAYLOR w/o O-T-A.[/QUOTE]


I never understood the fuss either, and I agree in part with Defensewins when he spoke about the OTA's being voluntary. They can't be a voluntary and mandatory exercise all in one. I do however, understand the desire to have everyone present for the sake of "TEAM" but as someone else stated, this is May, whose going to care come Sept.

I only mentioned Favre because I have witnessed him make statements about retirement before, only to change his mind later. I decided to wait before comment, thinking he just might do the same thing again, and he did.

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[quote=Mattyk72;310283]Just look through this thread

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/18192-springs-and-taylor-miss-otas.html[/URL]

[quote=dmek25;310288]ok-
grim
dallasblows
earthquake
and scud seem to be the main offenders. 3 months for all.
(of course im just kidding)[/quote][/quote]

I just went back and slogged through the 8 pages of thread and that is about right. When I actually read the posts it seemed like more people were over reacting in the other direction, that is arguing with the decided minority who said it was a major contractual issue. Seemed like most people assumed that others were making a big deal out of the contract concerns and then made a big deal in the other direction (if that makes any sense). In any case, certainly no need for anyone (save perhaps Sally Jenkins) to really renounce their sins publicly.

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The most rewarding part of this...........thread, is that when the season starts, we won't have to deal with this type of SH.....................

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[quote=Hog1;310326]The most rewarding part of this...........thread, is that when the season starts, we won't have to deal with this type of SH.....................[/quote]

Correct, but then we get to deal with threads like "[I]Betts should be the starter[/I]", "[I]Is it time for Jordan Palmer to see some action?[/I]", and "[I]Brandon Lloyd sucks!!1![/I]"...

I can't wait. :doh:

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[quote=12thMan;310228]We should still trade him.[/quote]


now why the hell would we do that

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310341]now why the hell would we do that[/quote]

Earthquake, I'm starting to think that you are incapable of detecting sarcasm, my good man.

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Boy, you guys already know how the entire offseason is going to go? Hell, what is the next powerball number?

I guess the anonymous players that said he doesn't like his deal were lying or don't exist.

Wait until Landry gets signed....

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;310281]Not sure what you're talking about... Gibbs rarely gives the press much of anything to chew on. In this case he simply said he lost contact with Taylor and Springs which was the truth. I don't think the situation was anything of a sensitive nature that shouldn't have been out there in the media.[/QUOTE]

But it became sensitive in nature because of the way he talked to the press about it and they took it and ran with it.
Gibbs should backed his players and replied, ' It is a voluntary work out and there is no obligation to be at the OTA's. Springs and Taylor made the choice not to be there, end of story.'
But by Gibbs addressing the question and adding that he "lost contact" of two adults that have no obligations to him at this time of year created this whole stupid episode.
When I am on vacation, I have no obligation to drop everything and call my boss back immediately unless it is a work emergency, which this clearly was not an emergency.

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[quote=Defensewins;310346]But it became sensitive in nature because of the way he talked to the press about it and they took it and ran with it.
Gibbs should backed his players and replied, ' It is a voluntary work out and there is no obligation to be at the OTA's. Springs and Taylor made the choice not to be there, end of story.'
But by Gibbs addressing the question and adding that he "lost contact" of two adults that have no obligations to him at this time of year created this whole stupid episode.
When I am on vacation, I have no obligation to drop everything and call my boss back immediately unless it is a work emergency, which this clearly was not an emergency.[/quote]

You really don't think the press would have ran with it regardless of what he said?? If he said the workouts are voluntary so they don't have to be there, they would have seen right through that, c'mon now.

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Bout damn time his ass got to work. Does he have a TARDY clause?

All can chill out, at least for a minute.

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[quote=dmek25;310288]ok-
grim
dallasblows
earthquake
and scud seem to be the main offenders. 3 months for all.
(of course im just kidding)[/quote]

Well, in our defense, it did look like it could be about the contract. We used the #5 overall pick on him, and then went out and made a Archuletta, AKA "Toast," the highest paid safety in league history, and refused to give Ryan Clark a small raise. And then this year we go out and draft another safety early in the first round. I think Taylor wanting a new contract was justified speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED he's at Redskins Park this week. He's my favorite player.

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[quote=LMsexyAO;310343]Earthquake, I'm starting to think that you are incapable of detecting sarcasm, my good man.[/quote]


funny i was thinking the same thing about you [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon6.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310378]funny i was thinking the same thing about you [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon6.gif[/IMG][/quote]Whoa. That was smooth.

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[quote=GTripp0012;310381]Whoa. That was smooth.[/quote]

Now there's some good sarcasm for ya. LOL!

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[quote=GMScud;310377]Well, in our defense, it did look like it could be about the contract. We used the #5 overall pick on him, and then went out and made a Archuletta, AKA "Toast," the highest paid safety in league history, and refused to give Ryan Clark a small raise. And then this year we go out and draft another safety early in the first round. I think Taylor wanting a new contract was justified speculation. Don't get me wrong, I'm THRILLED he's at Redskins Park this week. He's my favorite player.[/quote]


i never said it was a contract issue

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[quote=GMScud;310385]Now there's some good sarcasm for ya. LOL![/quote]


i know right lol

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310386]i never said it was a contract issue[/quote]

I never said you did. dmek said a few people thought Taylor's contract was the issue, and your name was on his list.

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[quote=GTripp0012;310381]Whoa. That was smooth.[/quote]


thanks man i really REALLY appreciate it [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=GMScud;310388]I never said you did. dmek said a few people thought Taylor's contract was the issue, and your name was on his list.[/quote]


i know that i am just asking why i was on his list

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310389]thanks man i really REALLY appreciate it [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon12.gif[/IMG][/quote]OK, now I'm just confused.

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Obligatory PFT post:

TAYLOR NOT PUSHING FOR NEW CONTRACT, YET

A league source tells us that the decision of Redskins safety Sean Taylor to skip the first week of offseason practices (known as Organized Team Activities) and to show up for the second week of workouts is unrelated to his contract, or any lack of satisfaction therewith.

Though Taylor was unhappy with his contract not long after it was signed nearly three years ago, he is confident (we're told) that the deal will be renegotiated at the appropriate time.

There is some thought that a new deal could come after the 2007 season.

Taylor was the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft. In the past, he has spent most of the offseason in Miami. The team was under the impression that he would show up for the first week of OTA's, and some players reportedly concluded that his absence was related to unhappiness with his contract.

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[quote=GTripp0012;310402]Obligatory PFT post:

TAYLOR NOT PUSHING FOR NEW CONTRACT, YET

A league source tells us that the decision of Redskins safety Sean Taylor to skip the first week of offseason practices (known as Organized Team Activities) and to show up for the second week of workouts is unrelated to his contract, or any lack of satisfaction therewith.

Though Taylor was unhappy with his contract not long after it was signed nearly three years ago, he is confident (we're told) that the deal will be renegotiated at the appropriate time.

There is some thought that a new deal could come after the 2007 season.

Taylor was the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft. In the past, he has spent most of the offseason in Miami. The team was under the impression that he would show up for the first week of OTA's, and some players reportedly concluded that his absence was related to unhappiness with his contract.[/quote]


I watched the live interview with ST on Redskin.com, he was actually well spoken. Said the contract was not or has never been an issue. It would be dealt with when they time came, I was impressed.

Went further to say he had a seven year deal with the Skins and everyone was real excited to be back and ready to get to work. He was glad to be back with the guys, maybe the young buck is growing up. It sure was nice to see him on the field. I get the feeling he will not be any problem or distraction at all, more of a good team mate that want's to get us where we want to go. ALL THE WAY!

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[quote=GTripp0012;310401]OK, now I'm just confused.[/quote]


about what

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I'm just glad he is there. Maybe he decided that he likes th idea of there being a new defensive system in place for him. More likely, Rosenhaus told him it will be harder to get a fat new contract for a guy that doesn't do anymore than the bare minimum at practices.

The fact is that Taylor will deserve a huge contract if he can prove that he has matured and becomes a leader at Redskin's park as well as on the field. Sean being there is good for everyone, especially him.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;310404]I watched the live interview with ST on Redskin.com, he was actually well spoken. Said the contract was not or has never been an issue. It would be dealt with when they time came, I was impressed.

Went further to say he had a seven year deal with the Skins and everyone was real excited to be back and ready to get to work. He was glad to be back with the guys, maybe the young buck is growing up. It sure was nice to see him on the field. I get the feeling he will not be any problem or distraction at all, more of a good team mate that want's to get us where we want to go. ALL THE WAY![/quote]

I'm glad you've also noticed this. Taylor has come a longway from his thuggin days in Miami. I'm not sure if yall saw him on the probowl special when he participated in the obstacle course but he was interacting with all the other players and seemed to be having fun which is far from how he was when he entered the league. He has matured alot and there is no doubt in my mind he in Landry are gonna be boys before long. Another thing that I think has been ignored is Drew. I guarantee he was called during this "holdout" and told a contract was imminent and to get Sean's ass to camp and had no problem doing just that. I love the fact that the baddest agent on the planet is boys with Dannyboy and from what I have seen a Redskin at heart.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310390]i know that i am just asking why i was on his list[/quote]
not to rehash the entire thread, but someone was agreeing on Taylor holding out because of a contract issue, and your post was " yeah, what he said". thats why you made the list. it was all in good fun.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;310406]about what[/quote]Sarcasm. It became so hard to follow. (This message is NOT sarcastic, I swear)

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;308630]Who cares? Joe Gibbs.

Everyone who said that it won't be an issue, you are right, because Taylor will have a new deal in place before the season starts (mark my words).

Whoever thinks that he has no leverage and that he should honor the contract that he signed, welcome to the year 2007.[/QUOTE]

I'm not letting you off the hook on this one Grim.

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I just watched the short interview with Taylor at Redskins.com and would make the following points:

1. Taylor now seems comfortable talking with the media. Heretofore I felt I hardly knew him at all.

2. Despite what he said in the interview he can't be happy with his contract.

3. Someone has wised him up to the fact that the way to Snyder's wallet is to put on the public face of Mr. Redskins team player. We're all a happy family.

4. All the above indicate that Taylor is quite intelligent and also capable of reigning in the urge to "keep it real". HT: Dave Chapelle

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I love how PFT posts a story about how its "sources" tell them that Taylor isn't upset with his contract a mere 2 hours or so after Redskins.com posted the interview with ST. They always post stories after some other news outlet has broken the story and then post a story in which they say that they are basing their claims on their "sources."

PS - I have major inside sources....(whispering) I subscribe to ESPN Insider and troll through SI.com every day.

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[quote=70Chip;310429]I just watched the short interview with Taylor at Redskins.com and would make the following points:

1. Taylor now seems comfortable talking with the media. Heretofore I felt I hardly knew him at all.

2. Despite what he said in the interview he can't be happy with his contract.

3. Someone has wised him up to the fact that the way to Snyder's wallet is to put on the public face of Mr. Redskins team player. We're all a happy family.

4. All the above indicate that Taylor is quite intelligent and also capable of reigning in the urge to "keep it real". HT: Dave Chapelle[/quote]

The one thing that people were failing to pick up on during his interview that wasn't in the video, but in the article by Gary Fitzgerald, was when Sean Taylor said "Every year I'm trying to show up here more and more," "It helps the team. [B]The last couple of years I've been kind of busy with certain issues. I finally have those in the past and I'm working on getting ahead." [/B]
There has obviously been something else holding him back from the beginning of OTA's that is probably of a personal matter and nobody elses damn business. He is here, working out, not disgruntled and very much more mature than most are giving him credit for. He is not pretending to not be worried about his friggin contract. He is legitimately not concerned with his contract at all.

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You guys are much better in this area of the forums that I mostly read up here but I did want to add that ST will be a beast this year with the help of Landry.

Those two guys will make NFL mothers cry. period

peace
mike

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[quote=dmek25;310417]not to rehash the entire thread, but someone was agreeing on Taylor holding out because of a contract issue, and your post was " yeah, what he said". thats why you made the list. it was all in good fun.[/quote]


dont remember that but okay

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[quote=GTripp0012;310422]Sarcasm. It became so hard to follow. (This message is NOT sarcastic, I swear)[/quote]


ok iwas being sarcastic when i said i appreciate it cause you were being sarcastice when you said i was smooth but back to the thread:

love that he is back on the field so he can mesh with landry and they can really find out how everyone plays and they can see how well they play together i am drooling again

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Its great to see that in taylor's interview he denied any problems with his contract... That is all just a media rumor.

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I'll say this one last thing about the whole Taylor thing. I watched his interview a couple of times and his responses to the questions. The thing that impressed me the most is that publicly he's saying all the right things. Whether he means them or not is not really the point as far as I'm concerned. But the fact that he's learning how to play the game and not allowing media rumors to ruffle his feathers shows maturity on his part.

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He seems to be pretty genuine to me.

He also seems looser and more at ease than in the past. Maybe he's finally opening up?

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;310524]Its great to see that in taylor's interview he denied any problems with his contract... That is all just a media rumor.[/QUOTE]


It further demonstrates why we shouldn't put a great deal of stock in what we read. We all have minds of our own, and can use them to form our opinions on most issues without much outside influence.

Listning to Taylor's interview, I sense a bit more maturity in his expression and willingness to talk with the media. I hope this is a sign of things to come.