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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-30-2007 10:43 PM

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[QUOTE=mmil12;314431]How much do you think cooley is going to demand when he hits the market. Let say we wrap him up with a 5 year contract.[/QUOTE]

I would not be at all surprised to see him get a 6 year deal worth $35M with a $13M signing bonus. That's a hell of a lot of money for a TE, but it's a crazy market right now.

steveo395 05-30-2007 11:08 PM

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;314447]I would not be at all surprised to see him get a 6 year deal worth $35M with a $13M signing bonus. That's a hell of a lot of money for a TE, but it's a crazy market right now.[/quote]
Just give him the standard Redskins contract -- 6 years, $30 million, $10 million guaranteed

Or franchise him for almost $5 million

Aussie_Skins_Fan 05-30-2007 11:54 PM

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[QUOTE=70Chip;314441]He is a unique player. He has the size of a tight end, the route running and hands of a wide-receiver, and he runs like John Riggins [/QUOTE]

Agree with you 100% on that.

Given his unique skills and the booming contracts, is it reasonable to expect Cooley to sign a new record contract for a TE? How much would this be? and would the Redskins pay it?

hooskins 05-31-2007 12:07 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;314387]He's a freaking TE, end of story.

Where's the grumpy version of Schneed when you need him?[/quote]

Yeah seriously JDALY, you are wrong. Get over it. He isn't a H-back anymore. You are wrong. Life sucks, get use to it.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-31-2007 08:54 AM

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[quote=steveo395;314452]Just give him the standard Redskins contract -- 6 years, $30 million, $10 million guaranteed

Or franchise him for almost $5 million[/quote]

i would pay him that too

skinsfan_nn 06-26-2007 07:03 PM

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[quote=JDALY27;314297]Sellers is the Fullback and Cooley is the H-Back.

Under Gibbs before Al Cooley was more of a TE than ever. He used to line up at the line of scrimmage much more often.

Under Al Cooley is split out flexed more and seems to me that its just what an H-back is. Not a Fullback, Not a TE, Not a receiver.....H-BACK!!!

Sorry AL, you use an H-BACK!![/quote]

JDALY, good luck on the golfing next week.....? This might help clear it up for you....?

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=26880]For Cooley, A Focused Offseason[/url]

Beemnseven 06-26-2007 08:07 PM

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[QUOTE=PoundIt;314240]I was looking at this last year when he was changed to officially a TE and it entered my mind with the Reggie Bush thing where he wanted to wear a non-RB number. Cooley being a TE now cannot wear 47 according to NFL rules. I dont care, have his jersey, but I was surprised not to see the change of numbers given the opportunity to sell more jerseys.[/QUOTE]

Dallas Clark of Indy is a tight end and he wears #44.

The NFL actually did change the numbering rules for wide receivers since teams started running out of 80-89 for the number of wideouts and tight ends they carry. Then, they decided to let WRs use #11-19.

If I had my way, all wideouts in the league would be 80-89 and tight ends would be able to choose between 20-49, along with running backs and defensive backs.

I don't know why, but wide receivers are such a recognizable part of the game, (second only to quarterbacks) I think they should all be known for one particular set of numbers.

If only I ruled the world ...

Skinsfan1967 06-26-2007 08:23 PM

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[QUOTE] Cooley being a TE now cannot wear 47 according to NFL rules.[/QUOTE]


I know that the league loosend the number rule for WR and TE but I have to admit I am not sure what sets of numbers were approved other than 11-19.

Tha Posse 06-26-2007 10:06 PM

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So what would be the difference in cost for a franchised TE and a franchised H-Back. Would they just go by the average of the top TE's in the league or H-Backs? Kind of a loop hole if it would work, there aren't many H-Backs(on paper) in the NFL. Regardless I pray it wouldn't come to us franchising Cooley!

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 12:25 AM

Re: Is Cooley Still Considered an H-Back?
 
[quote=Tha Posse;321733]So what would be the difference in cost for a franchised TE and a franchised H-Back. Would they just go by the average of the top TE's in the league or H-Backs? Kind of a loop hole if it would work, there aren't many H-Backs(on paper) in the NFL. Regardless I pray it wouldn't come to us franchising Cooley![/quote]


a H-back would be franchised under a fullback status

KLHJ2 06-27-2007 12:29 AM

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Even with the so called change of position last year Cooley was still officially listed as a Full Back for Pro Bowl voting I believe. Correct me if I am wrong.

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 12:32 AM

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[quote=angryssg;321815]Even with the so called change of position last year Cooley was still officially listed as a Full Back for Pro Bowl voting I believe. Correct me if I am wrong.[/quote]


I saw him as a tight end on NFL.com voting. Where was he listed as a fullback?

MTK 06-27-2007 07:24 AM

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I can't believe this is still going

:doh:

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 07:57 AM

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I dont see why it has lasted this long.

skinsfan_nn 06-27-2007 12:33 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;321884]I can't believe this is still going

:doh:[/quote]

You can't believe it on the Warpath website? Are you really ILL today?

HE'S A DAMN TE PEOPLE!

Sammy Baugh Fan 06-27-2007 12:37 PM

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Tha Posse 06-27-2007 01:38 PM

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I don't dispute that he is considered a TE

sbaughone 06-27-2007 04:41 PM

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Here's an idea for innovation: Hire a dang journalist who knows something about football. This guy's almost as bad as sally blow-hard jenkins. [url=http://www.OntheRAC.com]On the RAC: Washington Redskins Fan Club[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 10:19 PM

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Tight End and that is it.

KLHJ2 06-27-2007 10:27 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;322126]Tight End and that is it.[/quote]

I am not questioning that. I said to correct me if I was wrong. So it was only his first season that they had him listed as a FB.

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 10:36 PM

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[quote=angryssg;322130]I am not questioning that. I said to correct me if I was wrong. So it was only his first season that they had him listed as a FB.[/quote]

no the first 2 seasons

KLHJ2 06-27-2007 10:42 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;322136]no the first 2 seasons[/quote]

Alright jackass, I said to correct me if I was wrong, not get freakin technical on me. But thanks.

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 10:43 PM

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[quote=angryssg;322144]Alright jackass, I said to correct me if I was wrong, not get freakin technical on me. But thanks.[/quote]


that is what i was doing sorry if it came off wrong

KLHJ2 06-27-2007 10:45 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;322147]that is what i was doing sorry if it came off wrong[/quote]

Giving you a hard time.I am in the mood to mess with people a little. My son is finally comming by cover of darkness. 6 hours and counting

SmootSmack 06-27-2007 10:46 PM

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[QUOTE=angryssg;322149]Giving you a hard time.I am in the mood to mess with people a little. My son is finally comming by cover of darkness. 6 hours and counting[/QUOTE]

Closing in on 1,500!

KLHJ2 06-27-2007 10:47 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;322150]Closing in on 1,500![/quote]

Thanks I just realized that.

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-27-2007 10:48 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;322150]Closing in on 1,500![/quote]

and he doesnt play in denver. that makes it an accomplishment.

WarriorSpirit 07-01-2007 12:12 AM

Re: Is Cooley Still Considered an H-Back?
 
[quote=Tha Posse;321733]So what would be the difference in cost for a franchised TE and a franchised H-Back. Would they just go by the average of the top TE's in the league or H-Backs? Kind of a loop hole if it would work, there aren't many H-Backs(on paper) in the NFL. Regardless I pray it wouldn't come to us franchising Cooley![/quote]
There is no designation for FB or H-Back. Both would fall under RB, which would be a huge difference in the franchise tag number from the TE position.
Regardless, it doesn't matter, Cooley is a TE now under Saunders system.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-01-2007 12:21 AM

Re: Is Cooley Still Considered an H-Back?
 
[quote=WarriorSpirit;322963]There is no designation for FB or H-Back. Both would fall under RB, which would be a huge difference in the franchise tag number from the TE position.
Regardless, it doesn't matter, Cooley is a TE now under Saunders system.[/quote]


Where is NoVa????

WarriorSpirit 07-01-2007 12:31 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;322970]Where is NoVa????[/quote]
LOL, Northern Virginia, Leesburg specifically. I need to capitalize the 'A' and I will right now.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-01-2007 10:50 AM

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[quote=WarriorSpirit;322978]LOL, Northern Virginia, Leesburg specifically. I need to capitalize the 'A' and I will right now.[/quote]


sweet, sweet, i will remember that.


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