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If not Kobe will we finally get Garnet?

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[quote=Buster;320148]NO WAY.

Gilbert is a better all-around player, a better teammate (won't disrupt the team with selfishness) and is a great guy to have for the local community.

I'll be majorly ticked off if Kobe comes to Washington, even more so if we lose Arenas.[/quote]


Gilbert is not on Kobe's level period. Gilbert is not a better all-around player.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;320149]If not Kobe will we finally get Garnet?[/quote]


no if Garnett goes anywhere it will Boston.

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[url=http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-heisler21jun21,0,5003710.column?page=1&coll=la-home-sports]Lakers hold the cards on Bryant -- for now - Los Angeles Times[/url]
Bryant isn't going anywhere this year. Also I read Garnet doesn't want to go to Boston. He said if he’s traded there he would leave when his contract expires.
Garents coming to L.A.:joke: I wish!

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Kobe needs to stay in LA. They just need help. My Spurs repeat next season.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320156]no if Garnett goes anywhere it will Boston.[/QUOTE]

How is that going to work?

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[quote=jsarno;320286]How is that going to work?[/quote]


well before he turned the trade down they had telfair, jefferson, and the number 5 pick for Garnett but he (Garnett) said no.

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Boston waived telfair. I think Garnett would be an awesome fit in Washington. Trade Jamison, 1strounder and Haywood. If they need more add Hayes to sweeten the pot. Then draft DJ Strawberry with the second rounder.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;320351]Boston waived telfair. I think Garnett would be an awesome fit in Washington. Trade Jamison, 1strounder and Haywood. If they need more add Hayes to sweeten the pot. Then draft DJ Strawberry with the second rounder.[/quote]

Garnett would be an awesome fit ANYWHERE. :D

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the Celtics are making a push for Garnett. they desperately want to do something to revive the franchise. the first thing that they should do, is get rid of the dumb ass Danny Ainge

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If Garnett is serious about winning, Boston ain't the place for him then

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[quote=diehardskin2982;320351]Boston waived telfair. I think Garnett would be an awesome fit in Washington. Trade Jamison, 1strounder and Haywood. If they need more add Hayes to sweeten the pot. Then draft DJ Strawberry with the second rounder.[/quote]


technically he is still with them. they signed him back. I saw it yesterday.

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[quote=SmootSmack;320451]If Garnett is serious about winning, Boston ain't the place for him then[/quote]
I'm not up on the rules. does Garnett have a say?

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[QUOTE=dmek25;320493]I'm not up on the rules. does Garnett have a say?[/QUOTE]

Technically he doesn't have a no-trade clause. Only Kobe has that in the leauge. But KG can, and did, say that he will opt out of his contract once it expires at the end of next season and he won't re-sign with the Celtics. The Celtics could say "Well, we'll take our chances that he'll change his mind" or they can, and did, say "Well then that trade just won't work for us"

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Bryant is the only one in the league with a no trade clause? that is really surprising

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[QUOTE=dmek25;320441]the Celtics are making a push for Garnett. they desperately want to do something to revive the franchise. the first thing that they should do, is get rid of the dumb ass Danny Ainge[/QUOTE]

For as much as I want to agree with you, I do believe that Ainge has gotten the dead weight off the roster, and the cancers off the roster. He came into a situation that was about as much of a cap hell as you can get into.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320334]well before he turned the trade down they had telfair, jefferson, and the number 5 pick for Garnett but he (Garnett) said no.[/QUOTE]

I saw he turned it down.
I didn't think the Celtics had enough. I don't see Garnett going to a lot of places because of the money that is required and what the team will have to give up to get him.
He should have taken that deal with Boston...I think he could ressurect the team.

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Forget the celtics bringing him here would be the best option for him to win. Our offensive style is similar to the suns and having him Arenas and butler with Kevin would be a hard combo to face in the east. Pick up Gerald Wallace in Free Agency or DJ Strawberry in the second round and you have one hell of a team.

PG=Gilbo
SG=Wallace
SF=Butler
PF=Garnett
C=Pech/ Thomas

They have to atleast try on that.

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Wallace is local too so that'd be a nice pickup (by the way, anyone notice that one of our newest membersis gerald wallace? not the same guy)

As for KG, we can't seriously expect to keep Arenas and Butler and trade for KG

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;320602]Wallace is local too so that'd be a nice pickup (by the way, anyone notice that one of our newest membersis gerald wallace? not the same guy)

As for KG, we can't seriously expect to keep Arenas and Butler and trade for KG[/QUOTE]

Why not? I've looked at the trade scenarios and trading Jamison, Haywood, and Songaila for KG would work money wise and collective bargain agreement wise. Give Minnesota our 1st rounder this year and maybe next year. Hopefully the thought of being champs (hell with line up you could have a Dynasty) for a few years would ease the contracts for the mega stars.

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[quote=dmek25;320493]I'm not up on the rules. does Garnett have a say?[/quote]


actually he does, because he has been in the league for over 8 years and 4 years with his own team. he doesn't have a no trade clasue but he can say no to where he wants to be traded under the rules of the collective bargaining agreement.

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is this sort of like trading Antonio Brown for Tom Brady?

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hey quake. finally got the girlfriend to join. wants to spend more time with you? or find out what we are all talking about?:)

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[quote=dmek25;320615]hey quake. finally got the girlfriend to join. wants to spend more time with you? or find out what we are all talking about?:)[/quote]


that is pretty much it a little of both and she wanted to see why I was always here on the site.

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[quote=dmek25;320614]is this sort of like trading Antonio Brown for Tom Brady?[/quote]

it's not that because in that option neither player has a choice. In this case Garnett can say where he wants to go just like Kobe. He can say I dont want to go to Boston (which he did) even if they agree to a deal (which they did)

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;320605]Why not? I've looked at the trade scenarios and trading Jamison, Haywood, and Songaila for KG would work money wise and collective bargain agreement wise. Give Minnesota our 1st rounder this year and maybe next year. Hopefully the thought of being champs (hell with line up you could have a Dynasty) for a few years would ease the contracts for the mega stars.[/QUOTE]

Good points I keep forgetting about Songaila. But I would think Minnesota would ask for Arenas and/or Butler

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[quote=SmootSmack;320620]Good points I keep forgetting about Songaila. But I would think Minnesota would ask for Arenas and/or Butler[/quote]


KG already said that the only team he would want to play for is the Suns. And good afternoon SS and everyone else how are you all?

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I'm sure that the wiz haven't even presented themselves as options in the mix for KG which makes it so frustrating... because I know if KG saw the make of that team with him on it, he'd be on board in a heartbeat.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;320638]I'm sure that the wiz haven't even presented themselves as options in the mix for KG which makes it so frustrating... because I know if KG saw the make of that team with him on it, he'd be on board in a heartbeat.[/quote]


I doubt that because you know that minnesota will want Jamison/Arenas in that trade

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320643]I doubt that because you know that minnesota will want Jamison/Arenas in that trade[/QUOTE]

Absolutely...in general, you have to give up talent, to get talent. Minnesota isn't going to let KG walk for a sack of beans.

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[quote=jsarno;320648]Absolutely...in general, you have to give up talent, to get talent. Minnesota isn't going to let KG walk for a sack of beans.[/quote]


Toronto and Philly did it for AI and Vince Carter. But the longer they wait the more his trade value goes down. Plus he will opt out after next year so they need to hurry up and trade him.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320650]Toronto and Philly did it for AI and Vince Carter. But the longer they wait the more his trade value goes down. Plus he will opt out after next year so they need to hurry up and trade him.[/QUOTE]

That will still give them 1 more year with KG, so they won't give him up for nothing even if they KNOW he will walk next year.

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It's not a Sack o beans. Redskins FO doesn't work 4 d Wizards. They know how 2 not get hosed. Timberwolves has made it known that if KG goes they will be rebuilding and the wiz can help by giving up picks in the trade. Did denver give up melo to get ai... no! Phoniex is not giving amari or nash. it can happen.

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More than likely Kobe never leaves the Lakers

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320728]More than likely Kobe never leaves the Lakers[/QUOTE]

I think during the course of this thread, it has shown that you are correct. The Lakers would be stupid to let him walk anyway. He is the best player in the NBA...not smart to lose that.

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Now they can get Jermaine O Neal if they just let go of that scrub Andrew Bynum that garbage bastard.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320746]Now they can get Jermaine O Neal if they just let go of that scrub Andrew Bynum that garbage bastard.[/QUOTE]

I am not on the wizards bandwagon yet...I think this year was more of a fluke than of great things to come.

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[quote=jsarno;320751]I am not on the wizards bandwagon yet...I think this year was more of a fluke than of great things to come.[/quote]


I was talking about the Lakers I hate the Wizards I am a Mavericks Fan yeah i said it.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320755]I was talking about the Lakers I hate the Wizards I am a Mavericks Fan yeah i said it.[/QUOTE]

I love Dirk...he doesn't get enough credit.

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[quote=jsarno;321080]I love Dirk...he doesn't get enough credit.[/quote]


that is because he plays like shit in the playoffs