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Skinner 07-22-2007 12:26 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Jason Campbell! Im not sold on him, is he the real deal? The wideouts.

SkinsFanSince91 07-22-2007 01:14 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Whoever the no. 2 receiver is worries me.

Teams will focus on Moss, and we need someone to step sup and get at least 60+ catches this year. It needs to come from someone other than #47

Skinsfan1967 07-22-2007 01:49 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
A losing season worries me most. We have the talent, coaching and resources to have a great season. To be more detailed, execution of plays on botth sides of the ball with complicated sysems.

GusFrerotte 07-22-2007 06:13 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Actually worried about this crap with the Middle East more than anything going into training camp. Now Bush is pushing to hit Pakistan!!!!!!! WW III coming our way!!!!

GTripp0012 07-22-2007 07:50 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=SkinsFanSince91;331834]Whoever the no. 2 receiver is worries me.

Teams will focus on Moss, and we need someone to step sup and get at least 60+ catches this year. [B]It needs to come from someone other than #47[/B][/quote]Why? Please almighty have a defense for this statement!?!

Please?

GTripp0012 07-22-2007 07:55 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;331457]the thing about JC stats and brunell stats is that atleast JC threw the ball over the line of scrimmage. instead to the sideline or behind the line of scrimmage. JC gave the skins a threat of throwing the ball downfield[/quote]Umm...my pathetic little brain hurts.

The thing about those stats, units of measurement of production, is that the ball was thrown in a different spot (allegedly), and this somehow invalidates said stats?

You too, defend yourself!

I guess I'm just going to spend all night calling out people for weird statements. If thats what floats my boat...

MTK 07-23-2007 09:53 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Honestly the only thing that concerns me are injuries.

irish 07-23-2007 10:07 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Its Campbell for me. If he gets off to a rough start and the team struggles to win I think Gibbs will go back to MB in an effort to keep the season from slipping away. IMO that would not be good for JC's development.

For his own sake, I hope JC gets off to a solid start.

skinsnut 07-23-2007 10:35 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
A few things:
I'm afraid that we wont start looking for a real GM this year.
I'm afraid I wont outlive Dan Snyder's ownership.
I'm afraid that Joe Gibbs ends his Redskins career on a losing note.

enel 07-23-2007 11:53 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;331502]At this very moment in time, I agree with you. However, the kid has a lot of talent, and has came out and apologized and said he will show us on the field. I prefer to believe him, cause we need him. There is no doubting he has talent, he just needs to put it together.[/QUOTE]

When did he apologize and say this that you speak of...? (Thats news to me!)

Monkeydad 07-23-2007 12:15 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
What worries me the most? TheWarpath.net is getting excited about Aaron Brooks. Seriously...that's pathetic.

Monksdown 07-23-2007 01:08 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Left Guard. a 6 foot 8 inch left guard that has never played left guard in the nfl. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Monkeydad 07-23-2007 01:21 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=Monksdown;332001]Left Guard. a 6 foot 8 inch left guard that has never played left guard in the nfl. [B]You can't teach an old dog new tricks.[/B][/quote]

Actually, you can. (If we're talking about training dogs). :cheeky-sm

SouperMeister 07-23-2007 02:49 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;331394]Heading into training camp, what is a critical part of the team that you think might become a problem. Anything but D-Line. That's just too obvious.

I'm a bit worried about Suisham. We could lose some close games if that guy isn't money. Much like QB, we haven't had an above average guy who can handle K duties year after year for a long time. It's a problem and I'm not sure Suisham is the answer.

Thoughts?[/quote]
In the predictions thread a week back, I said that we will change placekickers at least once, because that's what we've always done under the Danny. My other major concern is who will step up and be a solid #2 WR to take heat off Santana? ARE and Lloyd were extremely inconsistent, but I'll hold out hope that one of them will step it up this season.

jsarno 07-24-2007 03:19 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
For everyone that thinks Campbell is our key, do you think we'll be OK if he produces right around 3000 yards, 22 or 23 TDS and 13 or 14 int's?
I've heard plenty of people say that is what they are expecting...so I ask, is this what you're expecting?

Monksdown 07-24-2007 09:13 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=jsarno;332269]For everyone that thinks Campbell is our key, do you think we'll be OK if he produces right around 3000 yards, 22 or 23 TDS and 13 or 14 int's?
I've heard plenty of people say that is what they are expecting...so I ask, is this what you're expecting?[/quote]

Those numbers would show the type of progression that I would like him to make. And his starts last year indicated that you're probably right on.

What I want to know is how will those numbers translate into wins. And furthermore, will those numbers overcome another anemic defensive year?

Schneed10 07-24-2007 09:22 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=jsarno;332269]For everyone that thinks Campbell is our key, do you think we'll be OK if he produces right around 3000 yards, 22 or 23 TDS and 13 or 14 int's?
I've heard plenty of people say that is what they are expecting...so I ask, is this what you're expecting?[/quote]

Well, in his 7 games last year he threw for 1300 yards. Over a 16 game season, that projects to 2970 yards.

In his 7 games, he threw for 10 TDs. Over a 16 game season, that projects to 23 TDs.

In his 7 games, he threw for 6 INTs. Over 16 games, that projects to 14 INTs.

So even without any improvement, yes, Campbell should match the numbers you've listed. I expect him to improve though. I also expect defenses to adjust to him. I'll say:

3200 yards, 22 TD, 12 INT. With 400 rushing yards and 3 Rush TD. Those numbers are solid, but if he puts up those numbers with a 54% completion percentage, I don't think we'll do better than 8-8. If he puts up those numbers with a 58% or so, I think we'll go 10-6. He'll amass the stats because he can give you big plays that Brunell can't; the question is will he steadily move us with consistent completions, or will he be inconsistent with accuracy?

Monksdown 07-24-2007 09:25 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
400 yards rushing seems high to me. But that breaks down to 25 a game. I suppose he could do that. Are you thinking he's scrambling getting those, or that he will have plays designed for him to run if he cant see someone quickly?

hail_2_da_skins 07-24-2007 09:56 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm confident that Jason Campbell will have a breakout year. I'm excited to see the offense click on all cylinders now that they have a better understanding of Al Saunder's play book. What worries me most, is Joe Gibbs being impatient with his young quarterback and switching to Mark Brunnel prematurely if Campbell has a bad game. I do not want to see Dink-and-Dunk anymore.

Schneed10 07-24-2007 10:07 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=Monksdown;332298]400 yards rushing seems high to me. But that breaks down to 25 a game. I suppose he could do that. Are you thinking he's scrambling getting those, or that he will have plays designed for him to run if he cant see someone quickly?[/quote]

Last year he ran for 107 in 7 games, so that projects to 250 or so over a 16-game season.

But in his work with Saunders, they've been working on making quick drop-backs and quick decisions to get the timing routes down pat. What comes along with those quick drop backs and quick decisions comes the decision not to throw the timing route if it's not there, and not to wait around for the receiver to come open. He'll make the decision to take off and run a little more often.

400 might be the ceiling. But somewhere between 300-350 seems reasonable.

TheMalcolmConnection 07-24-2007 10:23 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm concerned about Moss as well honestly. His groin problems are cropping back up again. He's a baller when healthy, but man he's hurt a LOT.

hesscl34 07-24-2007 10:28 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;332311]I'm concerned about Moss as well honestly. His groin problems are cropping back up again. He's a baller when healthy, but man he's hurt a LOT.[/quote]

I agree.. and he's one of my favs.. I really hope he's healthy this year!

Chief X_Phackter 07-24-2007 10:39 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Definitely the quarterback position. This team will be as successful as the quarterback is efficient. If Jason Campbell does well, the team will do well. If Jason Campbell get's hurt or struggles mightily and Mark Brunell comes in the same answer applies. I am cautiously optimistic in what Jason Campbell will do for us this year, but he is still unproven, and he is still pretty green.

hesscl34 07-24-2007 10:41 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;332318]Definitely the quarterback position. This team will be as successful as the quarterback is efficient. If Jason Campbell does well, the team will do well. If Jason Campbell get's hurt or struggles mightily and Mark Brunell comes in the same answer applies. I am cautiously optimistic in what Jason Campbell will do for us this year, but he is still unproven, and he is still pretty green.[/quote]

I just hope that if MB does need to come in for any reason that the fans do boo him again...

SmootSmack 07-24-2007 10:46 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm surprised no one has said our cornerbacks. (Unless I missed it already). We can be close to great at that position [I]if[/I] Springs stays healthy, [I]if[/I] Rogers holds on to potential interceptions, [I]if[/I] Smoot doesn't continue the downward spiral he seemed to be on in Minnesota, [I]if[/I] Butler and Macklin can step up as solid nickel/dime corners (more so than say Kenny Wright).

That's a lot of "If's"

Monksdown 07-24-2007 10:52 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
Atleast we addressed that problem with quantity. We'll have to wait and see about quality. But our depth increases the chances of a more stingy defense overall. Short of a number of catastrophic injuries, we should have cornerbacks up and down the cornerback depth chart. Not safeties picked up in the middle of the season playing nickel and dime packages.

That's a step up. But our defense in general needs to completely turn the corner, or we're definitely screwed.

redsk1 07-24-2007 12:24 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm worried most about Jason Campbell. Although, I liked what I've seen from him last year, he is still an unproven young QB. Teams only go as far as their QB takes them.

The second thing i'm worried about is our defensive pressure on the QB. I think we'll be better but it's still a major area of concrern.

Cowell 07-24-2007 01:26 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm worried about Brandon Lloyd earning his paycheck, London Fletcher producing and not turning out to be a bust, and Clinton Portis' health.

redsk1 07-24-2007 01:35 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I'm worried most about Jason Campbell. Although, I liked what I've seen from him last year, he is still an unproven young QB. Teams only go as far as their QB takes them.

The second thing i'm worried about is our defensive pressure on the QB. I think we'll be better but it's still a major area of concrern.

hesscl34 07-24-2007 01:37 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;332322]I'm surprised no one has said our cornerbacks. (Unless I missed it already). We can be close to great at that position [I]if[/I] Springs stays healthy, [I]if[/I] Rogers holds on to potential interceptions, [I]if[/I] Smoot doesn't continue the downward spiral he seemed to be on in Minnesota, [I]if[/I] Butler and Macklin can step up as solid nickel/dime corners (more so than say Kenny Wright).

That's a lot of "If's"[/quote]

I guess because our cbs are a given problem.... we just didn't think of it as the biggest worry. We always worry about them.

calia 07-24-2007 02:05 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
I am going to commit the ultimate sacrilege and say coaching. Yes, coaching. I am worried about whether we will try to be a Gibbs smashmouth offense or a Saunders play action offense. That schizophrenia killed us last year when players didn't know the schemes and seemed confused as to what kind of team we were. And our inability to establish offensive rhythm resulted in far too many 3-and-outs and caused our D to be on the field far too long (not to mention hindered the development of our new QB).

Maybe the focus on "run first" in the last part of the season will carry over, although it begs the question of what role Gibbs envisions for Saunders. It would seem a waste to have him calling plays for a Joe Gibbs offense.

If we can commit to some scheme that makes sense given our personnel, I think we have enough talent to get 9 wins and maybe more, even with only 1 proven WR with injury issues (let's not forget Cooley) and even with real questions on the D line (which should be better with a better secondary and better LBs -- who I expect to blitz, and I salivate at the prospect of Taylor or Landry coming off a safety blitz).

So with the understanding that criticizing the coaching may result in my future postings to be re-directed to a Dallas fan site, I still think this is a real impediment, albeit a solvable one.

:soapbox:

birdz4gibbs 07-24-2007 03:06 PM

Re: What worries you most?
 
i would say the season as a whole worries me the most ,:) .
i would seriously say the dline ,LBers and hopefully the offense will gel with jason campbells continued developement....

jsarno 07-25-2007 01:19 AM

Re: What worries you most?
 
[QUOTE=Monksdown;332293]Those numbers would show the type of progression that I would like him to make. And his starts last year indicated that you're probably right on.

What I want to know is how will those numbers translate into wins. And furthermore, will those numbers overcome another anemic defensive year?[/QUOTE]

I don't think those numbers I mentioned are unrealistic at all, those are the exact averages (over a full season) he had in his 7 games last year.

I'd like to see around 3500 yards and a few rushing td's. If he can be between 58-60% we'll look great.


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