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[quote=Daseal;336257]Yeah, as a Redskins fan it was very tedious to watch. Our first team offense never went out in 11 v 11. Campbell never saw any action, nor did ARE, Lloyd, Betts, Portis, etc. Our D looked fine to me. We're playing a low contact scrimmage, on one of the Ravens big plays we had a sack, but you cant touch the QB.

The announcers were absolutely terrible. It was typical Ravens we are so great attitude.[/quote]

what channel was it on?

is it comming back on? anybody know?

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It was on MASN, it'll be shown tomorrow at 12:30 on NFL network I believe.

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cool, thanks

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I shouldn't have even watched it, because it doesn't mean squat. It was boring and I wanted to strangle my T.V., it was constantly Ravens interviews on the sideline and other kinds of Ravens BS! Yeah the one announcer thought our running back was Stoutmire because of his jersey, then they came to the conclusion that it was Betts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Just to clarify Tha Posse's post, it wasn't Betts either.

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[quote=Daseal;336257]Yeah, as a Redskins fan it was very tedious to watch. Our first team offense never went out in 11 v 11. Campbell never saw any action, nor did ARE, Lloyd, Betts, Portis, etc. Our D looked fine to me. We're playing a low contact scrimmage, on one of the Ravens big plays we had a sack, but you cant touch the QB.

The announcers were absolutely terrible. It was typical Ravens we are so great attitude.[/quote]

i totally agree, it was hard to watch. every interview was with a raven and those announcers were drooling all over the ravens players. as far as the 11 on 11 goes, the skins only had one (1) projected starter in the lineup and that was left guard, todd wade. on defense, the skins had three (3) projected starters, taylor,fletcher and rocky. landry did play but i'm not sure if he's considered a starter yet.

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i like to see ST and his attitude. glad he hasnt lost it. god come on football season!!!!!

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its funny becuase the anouncers were like, the ravens are moving the ball fairly well against a redskin defense that is almost all first string, nothing like having to listen to a bias sports review against your own team.

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The channel I watched it on was called MASN for Mid Atlantic Sports Network. They cover lots of Skins' and Ravens, Nationals and whatever the F the Maryland team is. Like it has been stated before, it was tough to watch or even to determine WHAT you were watching. Smoot's pick was a welcome sign but, McNair kinda threw it right to him. Defense DEFINTELY needs to stop letting teams move the ball in 20-40 increments like they did ALL last year. Repeatedly I saw blown coverages, bad man-to-man cover and overall got the sense that behind our D-Line, our secondary is still in last years mentality of letting teams move the ball how and where they please at will. ST looked good, got a little testy. It was nice touch for all the Raven wiener-blowing that the commentators were doing. There was another call too for a guy touching the WR to down him after he made a catch, and he kinda pushed him. I dont know. You had to see it. It was on the fence on wether to throw a flag. Just tweaked my interest a bit.

Brunell blows. Collins is the worst QB in the history of the league.

---Note to self:
Kill Todd Collins

Cooley looked good, as always and I'm pretty sure I saw Moss catch one ball. ARE returned 2 punts in the beginning adn looked solid.

Overall, it was ok. I just cant wait till the season opens.

Hail!

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Here is my take on the scrimmage: When it counted on the 11 on 11 we didn't look very good. On offense, we looked okay but, I expected to see a team that had something to prove from last years piss poor excuse for a football team. Yeah, we didn't have alot of starters on the both sides of the ball, but so did the ravens. This team still displayed no sense of urgency at all to try to impress the coaches or us fans for that matter. I must be honest, but our back-up quarterback situation scares the piss out of me. Our offense was "reset" at the 35 yard line several times because of the numerous 3 and outs. That was not good, and totally unacceptable. All in all, the offense looked the same as last year (that too is unacceptable). The defense looked good against the run, and when 3 down came calling, they could not stop the mighty ravens from moving the chains. The pass coverage simply sucked! Just like last year! We did have our starters back there and they could not stop their receivers from moving the chains. I think the ravens had two chances on offense, and they moved the ball (in the air) at will on us, and where able to get two scores on our allegedly improved secondary. What, are you kidding me?!?! I expected to see our D with this supposeded "chip" on it's shoulder. And again I was disappointed. To me, very few guys stood out, and were trying to make a positive impression. Next week I will expect to see more "fire and intensity" in our players. But, if it is the same CRAP that I saw yesterday, I will be thinkig twice if I actually invest my time and watch these games live. Pretty much most of last year I listened to the games on a Walkman, and I went through two of those when I would throw them across the yard and break them all up. Yes, I know I have some anger issues, and last year tested those issues to the extreme. Oh yeah, the pass rush also sucked, just like last year. But, anyway let's hope for a good year guys.

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I was disappointed that Cambell didn't get in on the 11 on 11 drills, but as he said afterward, you'll see lots of him in preseason. But his passes were pretty crisp during the 7 on 7 drills.

The kid Palmer is going to be hard to cut. God I hope we can keep him on the roster somehow. I really don't see the need to keep both Collins and Brunell.

On defense, Taylor was his usual nasty self. I also saw him and Landry communicate a couple times, which was good. I really get the sense Taylor is going to be more of leader on the field this year. It was either Blades or London Fletcher that knocked Boller on his ass, which was funny.

All in all, it was what it was. Not too much you could take from it honestly. But everyone was right about the announcers and the Ravens lovefest. I got sick of it. I mean we're in the middle of running a play, and they're interviewing Terrell Suggs' ugly ass! Unbelievable!

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i agree 4mrusmc no pass rush as usual. I love the first pass i saw on 7 on 7 from brunell a drop off to the RB classic. Glad to see him in midseason form.

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Let me say this too, for those of you who didn't see the scrimage, there's absoultely nothing, nothing to panic about. The Redskins didn't suck anymore if you were at training camp and you saw a guy drop a pass or didn't get to the quarterback.

You'll have some that want to see helmets flying and guys limping off the field to determine if the Redskins are ready - not!! It was simply a scrimmage, and that's all. I thought there was a reasonable amount of intensity on both sides of the ball to be pleased. As someone said, this is the dress rehearsal before the dress rehearsal.

The one guy that stuck out to me, if any, was Jordan Palmer. I'd really hate to see another team end up with him, seeing that both Collins' and Brunell's time is getting short here.

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we need to end this brunell experiment soon

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[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;336332]we need to end this brunell experiment soon[/quote]

I'm with you. I mean there is no reason to have him on the roster next year.

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we have to move on. we're giving away a roster spot by keeping him here. We can teach Palmer to throw the ball to the sideline or dump it off all the time if we have too.

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[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;336332]we need to end this brunell experiment soon[/quote]

I say keep him around for this year to help Campbell's development, then he needs to retire...

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[quote=4mrusmc;336320] The pass coverage simply sucked! Just like last year! [B]We did have our starters back there[/B] and they could not stop their receivers from moving the chains. I think the ravens had two chances on offense, and they moved the ball (in the air) at will on us, and where able to get two scores on our allegedly improved secondary. [/quote]

on defense.....daniels,griffin,carter,springs,smoot,rogers and washington did not play during the 11 on 11 drills. plus they used landry at safety, he's still learning.

i'm not making excuses but thats 7 starters missing.not counting safety.

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[quote=12thMan;336330]Let me say this too, for those of you who didn't see the scrimage, there's absoultely nothing, nothing to panic about. The Redskins didn't suck anymore if you were at training camp and you saw a guy drop a pass or didn't get to the quarterback.

You'll have some that want to see helmets flying and guys limping off the field to determine if the Redskins are ready - not!! It was simply a scrimmage, and that's all. I thought there was a reasonable amount of intensity on both sides of the ball to be pleased. As someone said, this is the dress rehearsal before the dress rehearsal.

The one guy that stuck out to me, if any, was Jordan Palmer. I'd really hate to see another team end up with him, seeing that both Collins' and Brunell's time is getting short here.[/quote]

I agree.

It is funny though to see some of the crazy reactions after a scrimmage, which isn't much more than an organized practice between two teams.

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true matty but if the skins look great or very good you guys would be saying man were back. going to the superbowl. Cant have it both ways. Alot of us were disappointed in their performance. The Ravens didnt have many starters in either and they looked alot better. Especially the ot they got in the supplemental draft. Wish we would have taken a chance on him.

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Yeah I also agree, I think we should keep brunell for this year, and put Bramlet or Palmer there next year. You can't hold to much to any of this yet though. I think we'll really know a lot more about these guys come week 3 of preseason. Did Golston or Montgomery play? I know I saw Salavea gettin his ass handled and then at the end of the scrimmage he was walking off the field with his jersey tied up with his gut hanging out

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[quote=Mattyk72;336348]I agree.

It is funny though to see some of the crazy reactions after a scrimmage, which isn't much more than an organized practice between two teams.[/quote]

Okay Matty, I agree maybe some of us are being a bit quick to judge a SCRIMMAGE. I will hold out hope for next week, but with all due respect and, if my memory serves me correct, weren't you one of the guys who last year would say that some of us were over reacting during the first third of the season when we sucked. And then the second third of the season was in the books, and we still sucked. By the time the last third of the season had started, this team had already mailed it in. I don't know about you and some others around here, but with this supposed high powered coaching staff, and great talent we allegedly have on paper, I just expected a little bit more. Especially after going 5-11.............

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Half of what happend wouldn't have happend if you could make contact with the QB. I seriously would act as if this game never happend.

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golston and montgomery did play. evans got killed by that rookie from md. smoot played good. hopefully we will play better in the first preseason game. JC better play at least a half. We have to have him sharp. No more babying these guys they dont deserve it. They havent won anything to be pampered. Need to be more physical.

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Why is Collins still on the roster?

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why is brunell on the roster?? The man cant play. I do like the broadway joe stash.

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Good question, Collins is garbage

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Collins= worst QB in history.

Todd Collins is Voldemort.

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Why is everybody complaining? This is a scrimmage, not even a preseason game! To those who havent noticed, those were our 3rd and 4th stringers in there. They arent even roster hopefuls...they're practice squad hopefuls. So dont start losing your mind about blown coverage or bad angles or not getting to the quarterback. You shouldn't expect guys who werent even drafted to step up.

This goes to mostly everyone in the 11 on 11 drills...except Collins...he has no hope.

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I looked at the game again and I would like to conclude by saying this: Their back-ups were better than ours. Nuff said.

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golston,montgomery,taylor,landry,london,rocky,smoot, etc arnt third stringers.

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if the d or o is not improved this year drastically id say goodbye to our entire coaching staff.

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i agree 21, this team needs to step it up. Our regulars have to play more to get some confidence. No more crap like last season.

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I think it would be GW if anyone, I don't think we need to worry to much about the Offense

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I don't know, but I see a lot of people leaning way to far into this scrimage. I had a buddy ask me to come over and watch it with him, but I told him I had to do my hair. There could be a number of reasons why the D didn't look strong, or why Mark was on the field (probably to knock the dust off). We are getting all fired up about nothing. Take a breath, drink a beer and get ready for the season. I'll watch the pre-season games, but only because it's Redskin football, but I won't be starting any threads over what I see. I won't start to panic until week 3 at least.

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[quote=CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR;336350]true matty but if the skins look great or very good you guys would be saying man were back. going to the superbowl. Cant have it both ways. Alot of us were disappointed in their performance. The Ravens didnt have many starters in either and they looked alot better. Especially the ot they got in the supplemental draft. Wish we would have taken a chance on him.[/quote]

No, I wouldn't.

I didn't even watch, because it is that meaningless.

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Trade Brunnel to the Falcons for a draft pick (any round). Cut Todd Collins. Keep Bramlet as the backup and Palmer as the third string quarterback. There is no reason for keeping all these have been quarterbacks and holding back the development of these younger, more promising quarterbacks.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;336201]Smoot's pick was nice, but McNair lobbed it right to him. [/QUOTE]

That's still an upgrade from Carlos Rogers who can't catch balls lobbed right to him. I can't wait. Carlos is going to be our nickel back.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;336533]Trade Brunnel to the Falcons for a draft pick (any round). Cut Todd Collins. Keep Bramlet as the backup and Palmer as the third string quarterback. There is no reason for keeping all these have been quarterbacks and holding back the development of these younger, more promising quarterbacks.[/quote]

I agree. We don't need 2 vets on the Roster to show Jason the ropes. Bramlet could be a solid #3 back this year and let either Collins, or Brunell work with Jason and then cut them off next year. I'm not sure how long we have them signed for, but I would rather have another young QB than 2 vets. Hell, I could take a snap and dump the ball to the HB for a lot less than we pay them for.

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[quote=theJBexperience;336535]That's still an upgrade from Carlos Rogers who can't catch balls lobbed right to him. I can't wait. Carlos is going to be our nickel back.[/quote]

I doubt it. Rogers is a far better tackler and only a slight downgrade in the hands department. If Smoot took Rogers starting job, you'd just end up seeing 20 yard runs to his side, as opposed to the 20 yard completions that Rogers gives up.

That being said, I think Rogers will be vastly improved this season, and I am glad that Smoot is back on the squad.