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Had a feeling his time was near. Even though Collins is a waste. That would have freed a little more coin toward getting COOLEY deal done!

Which IMO should be the next priority.

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[quote=Mattyk72;336698]Welcome to the NFL. All coaches have "their guys".

Bullshit or not that's life in the NFL and certainly nothing exclusive to the Redskins.

Bramlet was a longshot anyway. Playing in NFLE put him behind here and with 5 QBs on the roster someone was bound to get pinched.[/quote]

I'll tell you one place where you probably don't have this crap going on. New England.

I don't know if Bramlett can play or not. But from what I have see so far in pre season, he has out played Palmer.

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the guy wins the euro superbowl is the MVP and gets this from joe.Not even a chance .How stupid is this team. 5-11 stupid I guess.

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[quote=skinsfan69;336765]I'll tell you one place where you probably don't have this crap going on. New England.

I don't know if Bramlett can play or not. But from what I have see so far in pre season, he has out played Palmer.[/quote]

LOL what crap?? Cutting a 5th string QB??

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[quote=jayfrank12;336769]the guy wins the euro superbowl is the MVP and gets this from joe.Not even a chance .How stupid is this team. 5-11 stupid I guess.[/quote]

Some guy named Danny Wuerffel once tore up NFLE too.

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Hey with old lineman and not one draft choice on any new lineman they did the kid a favor.4-12 this year with same old guys on the line.Wake up redskin fans this is really bad.Talk about no direction ??

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;336771]Some guy named Danny Wuerffel once tore up NFLE too.[/QUOTE]

That has a lot to do with my point...
Just cause a guy plays well in an INFERIOR league does not mean it will translate to the NFL.
Look at Doug Flutie, hands down the best CFL QB ever, and he was nothing special in the NFL.
Just as Matty pointed out, Danny was great too, but how did that work out in the NFL?

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worked out better than anything the redskins have on that roster.You wish flutie was back there he could run.

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this just in joe traded for jeff gordon.Then let bramlet go then fired jeff then called home depot.Is that normal

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are we that bad on this board? 4 pages, and counting, about a scrub named bramlet. odds are he will never throw a pass in the NFL

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[QUOTE=jayfrank12;336776]this just in joe traded for jeff gordon.Then let bramlet go then fired jeff then called home depot.Is that normal[/QUOTE]

What the hell are you babbling about?

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[quote=Mattyk72;336770]LOL what crap?? Cutting a 5th string QB??[/quote]

I know it sounds stupid but I have been out to a couple practices. I'm telling you Brunell's arm is so done. He can't even throw a 15 yard out. I don't care how much experience you have, if you can not put any zip on the ball you need to be cut. And Palmer looked real lost. Bramlett looked like he belongs. He doesn't throw it like JC but he wasn't missing guys either. He's looked pretty accurate.

I'm by no means qualified as any of the coaches but I'm really starting to wonder what they are looking at. I know Brunell has experience and I know Collins knows the offense but Bramlett looked better than both of them. So it comes down to the BS politics. Gibbs likes his guy and Sanders likes his guy and so on.

If I were the owner, I would demand that the coaches have more competition at all the positions. RB, back-up QB, D-line, cornerback, safety opposite Taylor and WR. It seems everyone has their positions nailed down and this team is 5-11?? That makes no sense to me.

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[quote=skinsfan69;336781]I know it sounds stupid but I have been out to a couple practices. I'm telling you Brunell's arm is so done. He can't even throw a 15 yard out. I don't care how much experience you have, if you can not put any zip on the ball you need to be cut. And Palmer looked real lost. Bramlett looked like he belongs. He doesn't throw it like JC but he wasn't missing guys either. He's looked pretty accurate.

I'm by no means qualified as any of the coaches but I'm really starting to wonder what they are looking at. I know Brunell has experience and I know Collins knows the offense but Bramlett looked better than both of them. So it comes down to the BS politics. Gibbs likes his guy and Sanders likes his guy and so on.

If I were the owner, I would demand that the coaches have more competition at all the positions. RB, back-up QB, D-line, cornerback, safety opposite Taylor and WR. It seems everyone has their positions nailed down and this team is 5-11?? That makes no sense to me.[/quote]

yeah it does sound stupid.

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thank you Thank you.the skins have no real direction.Joe does not seem himself.There is no front office.There are no checks at redskin park.its bad and will get real bad.those games last year at the end they were 3-9.draft no lineman at all.THATS WRONG.i love the skins but this is bad.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;336781]If I were the owner, I would demand that the coaches have more competition at all the positions. RB, back-up QB, D-line, cornerback, safety opposite Taylor and WR. It seems everyone has their positions nailed down and this team is 5-11?? That makes no sense to me.[/QUOTE]

Except then people would say "The Redskins suck because they have no consistency, they never give their players a chance to gel as a team. There's no chemistry, they're always looking for the quick fix..."

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Mr. Armchair GM/Coach/Owner to the rescue. :doh:

When does the season start?

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[quote=SmootSmack;336786]Except then people would say "The Redskins suck because they have no consistency, they never give their players a chance to gel as a team. There's no chemistry, they're always looking for the quick fix..."[/quote]

At certain positions we need consistency. Like QB. We know JC is the guy. Our o-line is coming off a solid season so we know they can play. RB we are set. But at D-line, back-up qb, linebacker, kicker, wr and secondary guys should not be handed jobs. That's just how I see it. Competition makes everyone better. If that's stupid then so be it. We were 5-11. Not 11-5. Jeez.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;336777]are we that bad on this board? 4 pages, and counting, about a scrub named bramlet. odds are he will never throw a pass in the NFL[/QUOTE]

That's the offseason for you, we're all chomping at the bit to start the season.
We're all Redskins drug addicts and we're dieing for our fix!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;336793]At certain positions we need consistency. Like QB. We know JC is the guy. Our o-line is coming off a solid season so we know they can play. RB we are set. But at D-line, back-up qb, linebacker, kicker, wr and secondary guys should not be handed jobs. That's just how I see it. Competition makes everyone better. If that's stupid then so be it. We were 5-11. Not 11-5. Jeez.[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone is being handed jobs at several of those positions.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;336642]If Bramlet was so good in the NFL "Zooropa," wouldn't he have been worth a little more time in camp?[/quote]

Have to agree with you there. Coach Gibbs and AS would not have done that before the preseason games started this unless the kid really sucked. I am pulling for Palmer to replace Collins for sure!!!!!!!

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[quote=jayfrank12;336784]thank you Thank you.the skins have no real direction.Joe does not seem himself.There is no front office.There are no checks at redskin park.its bad and will get real bad.those games last year at the end they were 3-9.draft no lineman at all.THATS WRONG.i love the skins but this is bad.[/quote]

Dude, you have NO DIRECTION! Lay off the drugs, your making a fool outta yourself. :doh:

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;336793]At certain positions we need consistency. Like QB. We know JC is the guy. Our o-line is coming off a solid season so we know they can play. RB we are set. But at D-line, back-up qb, linebacker, kicker, wr and secondary guys should not be handed jobs. That's just how I see it. Competition makes everyone better. If that's stupid then so be it. We were 5-11. Not 11-5. Jeez.[/QUOTE]


And you're thinking that Bramlet is the guy to turn this around...even though he has 0 NFL experience?

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;336808]Have to agree with you there. Coach Gibbs and AS would not have done that before the preseason games started this unless the kid really sucked. I am pulling for Palmer to replace Collins for sure!!!!!!![/QUOTE]


When I first saw this thread, I was like....oh crap...stuck with 2 old timers again...but then I realized....correct me if I'm wrong...but Bramlet was on the squad briefly in January and presumably got a detailed look by the coaching staff...
And though I, too, wish Bramlet became great and was our permanant backup...he just must not have much upside, otherwise, they wouldv'e kept him over a 6th rounder or a perinial old backup in Collins.

The truth is it takes a couple years to develop a rookie qb....especially a non-starter due to lack of reps...if we keep Palmer, we will likely have him on the practice squad year 1 and on the team year 2 as the 3rd stringer...only in year 3 would he possibly be a 2nd stringer. So...the decision has likely already been made here.

On the other hand, if they kept Bramlet, he should be good enough for number 2 by next year...and based on the fact he hardly knows the playbook and the fact that the Skins already saw his skills before and sent him to Europe....I'm pretty sure they think his upside aint much better than it is now....no upside....good bye.

I wish Bramlet all the best...as long as he doesn't succeed in the NFC East.

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WTF!!!!!! The Skins FO is retarded! Why the fuck would we wanna keep Collins? HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!!! My 4 year old could run and offense better than him. Bramlet will go somewhere and believe me, in 2 years we will be crying over the fact that we let him go.

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[sarcasm]I don't know, Gibbs and Saunders seem hell bent on destroying this team. What the heck do they know about QB evaluation? Bramlet was the real deal. The success of the entire franchise just got released. That's it, I'm selling my prized 1991 Redskins jumbo popcorn bottle.[/sarcasm]

Sometimes I think some of you guys are just confused Dallas fans.

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Eh, I don't see either one of these guys going very far in the pros (I hope karma doesn't slap me for that). I could see them being solid 2nd stringers though.

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I dont know what anyone else saw, but I watched the entire NFLE this season and Bramlet was great. Agreed, NFLE's competition is weaker but, Bramlet seemed to have a lot to build on. Cool as a cucumber in the clutch and can throw and MEAN deep ball. We cant really say that about Collins or Brunell, niether of which can throw the ball more than 15 yards it seems like to me. Brunell is dead to me. He is about as useless as a moldy sack of potatos, and dont even get me started on Mr. Collins. That shithead should NEVER see the field unless he's playing for the Texans or something. Whereas Brunell will throw the ball away towards the sidelines, Collins like throwing the ball away to D-Lineman and hoping they dont catch it. Fuck Todd Collins.

Bramlet owns.

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A 5th stringer owns?

:doh:

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone lately. Seriously what's wrong with The Warpath? This place needs an enema.

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;336843]WTF!!!!!! The Skins FO is retarded! Why the fuck would we wanna keep Collins? HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!!! My 4 year old could run and offense better than him. Bramlet will go somewhere and believe me, in 2 years we will be crying over the fact that we let him go.[/QUOTE]

Just like we would be crying over ramsey right?

How in the world can you get this bent out of shape over a guy that no one wanted, so he was banished to Europe?
So believe me, in 2 years, we'll be saying Bramlet who? If he was THAT talented someone would have picked up on it, but i guess you know better than the all the scouts out there.

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[quote=Mattyk72;336853]A 5th stringer owns?

:doh:

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone lately. Seriously what's wrong with The Warpath? This place needs an enema.[/quote]I have a headache from reading The Warpath today.

I'm really hoping that people got up this morning and decided to be as wrong as they possibly could about football related issues in an attempt to drive me and my self righteous ass to the verge of insanity. If this was the case, then kudos to you all for such a great job, and please stop.

If not, then please stop.

I hate to go off on you people because y'all seem like a great group...but arrrrrggh its the preseason. This is not the time to be making me hate football.

/ end rant.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;336781]I know it sounds stupid but I have been out to a couple practices. I'm telling you Brunell's arm is so done. He can't even throw a 15 yard out. I don't care how much experience you have, if you can not put any zip on the ball you need to be cut. And Palmer looked real lost. Bramlett looked like he belongs. He doesn't throw it like JC but he wasn't missing guys either. He's looked pretty accurate.

I'm by no means qualified as any of the coaches but I'm really starting to wonder what they are looking at. I know Brunell has experience and I know Collins knows the offense but Bramlett looked better than both of them. So it comes down to the BS politics. Gibbs likes his guy and Sanders likes his guy and so on.

If I were the owner, I would demand that the coaches have more competition at all the positions. RB, back-up QB, D-line, corner-back, safety opposite Taylor and WR. It seems everyone has their positions nailed down and this team is 5-11?? That makes no sense to me.[/QUOTE]


I saw Bramlett play and I have to say I wasn't overly impressed, but you do make some very valid points, I do think Gibbs, and Saunders are married to there guy's, whether or not Bramlett can cut it who really knows at this point, I will take your word that he looked good in practice comparatively, but we all know neither Brunell or Collins can cut it, so why bother keeping them around? What purpose are they going to serve, make coaches out of them if they are so smart, it's not like anyone else is going consider playing them. If Bramlett is not the answer we should have more than just Palmer as the future backup plan at QB.

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its this simple. Campbell is the starter. a very GREEN starter. to have anyone but an experienced qback back him up would be very, very, foolish. and Bramlet? come on guys. I'm with gtripp. i cant believe this thread merits 5 pages, and counting

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I still think the status quo is what we'll be working with, even though Palmer was impressive in the scrimmage.

If Campbell goes down before the middle of the year, the season is over. I think Brunell has 5-6 good games in him as a back up, but no more than that.

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[quote=jsarno;336817]And you're thinking that Bramlet is the guy to turn this around...even though he has 0 NFL experience?[/quote]

No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.

Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.

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[QUOTE=JGisLordOfTheRings;336843]WTF!!!!!! The Skins FO is retarded! Why the fuck would we wanna keep Collins? HE FUCKING SUCKS!!!!! My 4 year old could run and offense better than him. Bramlet will go somewhere and believe me, in 2 years we will be crying over the fact that we let him go.[/QUOTE]


Someone please right this down and hold him acountable in 09.

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I guess the coaches just don't know what they are doing and we should take a fan's opinion based on seeing 2 practices?

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[quote=Mattyk72;337069]I guess the coaches just don't know what they are doing and we should take a fan's opinion based on seeing 2 practices?[/quote]

Your missing my point. I'm done with this thread. Next.

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The coaching staff is in love with Brunnel and Collins. Why? I have no idea! I've seen nothing on the field that suggests that either of these guys have anything left. Brunnel had a weak arm before shoulder surgery. They should make Collins the quarterback coach and cut him as a player. I think the coaching staff staff will keep Campbell as the starter, Brunnel second string, Collins third string and Palmer on the practice squad. This will be a gamble. Hoping that no other team signs Palmer. I would rather see the Skins cut Brunnel or Collins, it doesn't matter which, both are equally worthless, and keep Jordan Palmer as the third string quarterback.

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[quote=skinsfan69;337062]No. I'm not saying he is the guy to turn anything around. All I'm saying is from what I saw just from two practices he looks better than Brunell and Palmer. Now I'm not saying he is a great QB or anything. Hell, he may suck. But the point I'm trying to make is why is it that so many guys on a 5-11 team have their positions nailed down? Can someone ask me why we have no competition at the back-up qb position? If we had any other coaching staff I bet there would be.

Also at WR. ARE, Lloyd and Thrash should all be battleling for the #2. No one on the roster has proven they can be a #2. But it's reported that it's ARE job. For what? Did Goldston show enough to be nailed down as the stater for the other DT opposite Griff? Hell no he didn't. So again that job should be open for competition.[/quote][url=http://www.profootballreference.com/players/BrunMa00.htm]Mark Brunell statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/url]
[url=http://www.profootballreference.com/players/BramCa00.htm]Casey Bramlet statistics - pro-football-reference.com[/url]

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[quote=skinsfan69;337075]Your missing my point. I'm done with this thread. Next.[/quote]

Good, because it's hard to miss your point since there doesn't seem to be one.