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Wow. I can belive he said that. Portis needs to get his but on the field and show why we all love him so much. If he wasn;t here in 2005 we would have not made the playoffs, same goes for this year. If he can;t produce like his first year here we aren't going to the playoffs. We Need You CP. Get healthy and play bro. Hail!!

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CP is closing in on 10,000 yds for his career , that and knee & shoulder issues makes sence that he is going to slow down in a couple of years . If , and thats a big if ,,, his knee gives him problems this year , this is likely his last year here .

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Having read all the comments in this thread, I don't think anybody was over-hyping CP's statements. Nobody ever said CP wants to leave. Nobody is acting like the sky is falling. The basic sentiment here is that if CP can't stay healthy the skins may get rid of him. I think everyone agrees on that.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;344854]Question: If I am not mistaken Portis is entering his 4th year in Washington, if he did leave, what are the cap implications? If his knees are still bothering him it will be a struggle to attempt a trade.

Additionally the front office surrendered a 2nd round pick in 2004 for him, in addition to Champ Bailey. And if he does leave what type or return does Washington get back from his four years?

Now my point is simply that a second round pick in 2004 would now most likely be a starter in the lineup. Granted Portis was only 22 when he was traded and no one could see this knee issue coming then, but the position he plays dictates that he is gonna take hits and his body will wear down a bit faster. So why surrender a pro-bowl corner and a 2nd round draft pick if you only end up getting 4 years of production?

Arguabley Champ is at the top of his game (10 INT's in 2007), and looks to be a secondary force for Denver for years to come.

If the money and the trade does not justify an investment return for just 4 years, then there is another issue all together.[/quote]

His knees are fine. I would certainly take Portis in his present condition over Julius Jones at any time. Champ Bailey was going to leave one way or another so they got something in exchange, which was the smart play.

Of course, if Portis can't play due to injury again it will be hard to hold on to him, but I see no reason to think that he will not be back to form this season. He is not Gale Sayers yet. His injuries last year were a dislocated shoulder and a broken hand. I suspect this tendonitis business is largely bunk. But we will know soon enough.

I heard the Portis quote on the radio and it was completely innocuos. He was saying basically the way of the NFL is produce or be gone. Leave it to the dullards at SI to twist his statements for their own purposes.

Also, I would point out that old broken down Clinton Portis had little trouble running around Greg Ellis and the rest of the Cowboys defense when they played here last year, injuries notwithstanding.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;344854]Question: If I am not mistaken Portis is entering his 4th year in Washington, if he did leave, what are the cap implications? If his knees are still bothering him it will be a struggle to attempt a trade.

Additionally the front office surrendered a 2nd round pick in 2004 for him, in addition to Champ Bailey. And if he does leave what type or return does Washington get back from his four years?

Now my point is simply that a second round pick in 2004 would now most likely be a starter in the lineup. Granted Portis was only 22 when he was traded and no one could see this knee issue coming then, but the position he plays dictates that he is gonna take hits and his body will wear down a bit faster. So why surrender a pro-bowl corner and a 2nd round draft pick if you only end up getting 4 years of production?

Arguabley Champ is at the top of his game (10 INT's in 2007), and looks to be a secondary force for Denver for years to come.

If the money and the trade does not justify an investment return for just 4 years, then there is another issue all together.[/quote]


Without looking at the numbers, I think the cap ramifications largely depend on how he left. For instance, him being released as opposed to him being traded are two different animals and could have different cap results. But I would venture to say if we were to release him this year or next, there would be a cap hit. 'Aint gonna happen, I'm just saying.

As to your assertion that a 2004 2nd round pick would now be starting is speculation; Certainly not impossible, but who knows for sure. But the real question is, what type of production and impact would we be getting out of that 2nd round pick? Remember prior to last year, Portis has put up some nice numbers as a Redskin.

Finally, as to whether or not Portis has bad "knees". To the best of my knowledge, Portis has tendonitis in one knee, not both. And again, I don't think he's ever had knee surgery, or at least major knee surgery, so I don't think there's anything here to be overly concerned with. It's a condition that many running backs play with and can be very effective depending on its severity. Without knowing all the details or the extent of the "condition", (not injury) I fully anticipate Clinton Portis to be a beast this year and the next one and the one after that.

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The comments were not a big deal as many have pointed out here.

I hope that he can stay here & even finish his career as a skin. We certainly can't go through another face of the franchise leaving unhappy.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;344854]Now my point is simply that a second round pick in 2004 would now most likely be a starter in the lineup.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Denver use our 2nd rounder to draft Tatum Bell? Needless to say, he's no longer with the Broncos, and he's not a starter either.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344807]I think this comment is closer to what he actually feels than most of the things he says, and I'd have to say that I agree. That's the way the front office does business in Washington. As soon as a player shows the slightest hint of having lost a step, he's expendable. Face of the team or not.[/QUOTE]

What team doesnt do that? The minute a player is offered more $ by another team they will bolt so I have no problem with teams dumping guys they believe are not helping anymore. Its a business for players and organizations and the goal is winning. IMO, the minute CP cant help the team anymore he should be gone.

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Man, I am not going to take ANY of this seriously. First, he almost always says this stuff with a smile on his face--he is a joker most of the time. I agree that what he was saying was like Gibbs and the back to NASCAR comment. If I can't play, they're gonna fire my ass. Ha ha.

As for not playing in game 4, why in the world would we want to risk him now? Let him get healthy--who cares about preseason? Seriously. He's an RB, so he doesn't have nearly as much to pick up chemistry-wise. Just open a hole and let him run. And for all this talk about Portis being lazy, are you really ready to say that he doesn't give his all in games? He bust his ass out there, on everything from runs to receptions to blitz pickups--he is definetly our best blocking tailback in that regard. And for all this Champ talk--we had the #3 D and Clinton rushed for 1500 yards just 2 years back. He was hurt last year--but when he's healthy, he's the best back we have. And he's a team leader. Remember when we won 5 in a row to get to the playoffs--check Clinton's stats and press conferences during that run.

Rant over.

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[quote=70Chip;344880]His knees are fine. I would certainly take Portis in his present condition over Julius Jones at any time. Champ Bailey was going to leave one way or another so they got something in exchange, which was the smart play.

Of course, if Portis can't play due to injury again it will be hard to hold on to him, but I see no reason to think that he will not be back to form this season. He is not Gale Sayers yet. His injuries last year were a dislocated shoulder and a broken hand. I suspect this tendonitis business is largely bunk. But we will know soon enough.

I heard the Portis quote on the radio and it was completely innocuos. He was saying basically the way of the NFL is produce or be gone. Leave it to the dullards at SI to twist his statements for their own purposes.

Also, I would point out that old broken down Clinton Portis had little trouble running around Greg Ellis and the rest of the Cowboys defense when they played here last year, injuries notwithstanding.[/quote]

I would take Portis over Julius Jones too, by the way. That is why I will lay money that Jones is gone after this season. The team is not impressed with him and this is a contract year for him. I think his days are numbered. Good riddance.

Dallas obtained Clevelands first round pick in next years draft, which is a probable top ten, maybe a top five pick. Trust me, with that possibility Dallas will have Darren McFaddin on the radar next April. Jones will be history.

It is not a question of whether Portis can "run around Greg Ellis and the rest of the Cowboys defense", but rather can he do it for the other 14 games on the schedule?

And I did NOT make a refence to Portis being "broken down" oddly enough, only you mentioned that.

My question was IF Portis was gone after only 4 seasons with the Redskins, was the trade of Bailey plus the second round draft pick plus the possible cap ramifications worth only 4 years of service? I mean the guy was only 22 when he was traded, certainly the team would expect more than 4 years for such a hefty trade and contract length. Especially since it seems that the Broncos will get many more years of service from Bailey (who was a 5 year verteran at the age of 26 when traded) and the draft pick surrendered than the 4 years Portis will have served in DC.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;344900]I would take Portis over Julius Jones too, by the way. That is why I will lay money that Jones is gone after this season. The team is not impressed with him and this is a contract year for him. I think his days are numbered. Good riddance.

Dallas obtained Clevelands first round pick in next years draft, which is a probable top ten, maybe a top five pick. Trust me, with that possibility Dallas will have Darren McFaddin on the radar next April. Jones will be history.

It is not a question of whether Portis can "run around Greg Ellis and the rest of the Cowboys defense", but rather can he do it for the other 14 games on the schedule?

And I did NOT make a refence to Portis being "broken down" oddly enough, only you mentioned that.

My question was IF Portis was gone after only 4 seasons with the Redskins, was the trade of Bailey plus the second round draft pick plus the possible cap ramifications worth only 4 years of service? I mean the guy was only 22 when he was traded, certainly the team would expect more than 4 years for such a hefty trade and contract length. Especially since it seems that the Broncos will get many more years of service from Bailey (who was a 5 year verteran at the age of 26 when traded) and the draft pick surrendered than the 4 years Portis will have served in DC.[/quote]

Certainly it would be disappointing if Clinton were to leave after another unsuccessful season. We'll see what happens.

As to Jones, if the team is not impressed with him, why has he been the starter for lo these many years now? Was he a Parcells guy? Will Marion Barbour take his place as everydown back now that Jason Garret is in charge of the offense? As a Redskins fan, I always feel relieved to see Jones out there instead of Barbour. Marion gives us fits.

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[quote=irish;344891]What team doesnt do that? The minute a player is offered more $ by another team they will bolt so I have no problem with teams dumping guys they believe are not helping anymore. Its a business for players and organizations and the goal is winning. IMO, the minute CP cant help the team anymore he should be gone.[/quote]

I understand that the majority of the NFL handles business that way, but the Redskins front office has a way of making a split with a star player as ugly as possible.

And I agree that if a player is completely used up and no longer productive, there's no point in keeping him around, but my point is the Redskins definition of "used up" is different from most people.

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[QUOTE=GhettoDogAllStars;344889]Didn't Denver use our 2nd rounder to draft Tatum Bell? Needless to say, he's no longer with the Broncos, and he's not a starter either.[/QUOTE]


That's not entirely accurate.
Kevin Jones may be put on the PUP list, meaning Bell will be the starter.
Also, the Lions have said how great Tatem Bell has been during the preseason making everyone else seem like they are in slow motion.

Tatem Bell was leading the AFC in rushing when he was benched in Denver...why? Cause of fumbling issues...not completely unlike Betts.

I am now firmly buying into the fact that running backs are pretty easy to come by, and we don't need a huge cap number nor a huge mouth with Portis, especially when you factor in that he's gone from injury prone to fragile.

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[quote=70Chip;344907]Certainly it would be disappointing if Clinton were to leave after another unsuccessful season. We'll see what happens.

As to Jones, if the team is not impressed with him, why has he been the starter for lo these many years now? Was he a Parcells guy? Will Marion Barbour take his place as everydown back now that Jason Garret is in charge of the offense? As a Redskins fan, I always feel relieved to see Jones out there instead of Barbour. Marion gives us fits.[/quote]


I would not say so much that there really is a "starter" it is a more situational 2-back system. Jones had more carries last season, but he primarily carries between the 20's. When they get to the red zone (or 3rd down) Barber is the guy. That is why Barber had 13 TD's last season to Jones's 4. I really do not call either a "starter", it is just a two-back attack is all.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344807]I think this comment is closer to what he actually feels than most of the things he says, and I'd have to say that I agree. That's the way the front office does business in Washington. As soon as a player shows the slightest hint of having lost a step, he's expendable. Face of the team or not.[/QUOTE]

That's the way the entire NFL works, not just the Redskins. This is a business - if someone is establishing a track record of injuries and poor performance, they are going to be cut and someone else will be brought in.

I would agree with CP - if he doesn't get back to his former self this season, he probably will get traded. Everyone is expendable, no doubt about it.

How long is a team obligated to hang on to someone who can't cut it anymore? I'm certainly not saying CP is washed up, I fully expect him to have a huge year. But why do so many fans have some expectation that we'll hang on to people and pay them millions of dollars as long as they want to work here? Players are here to perform at a multi-million dollar salary level and win games. If it's not being done, get them out and bring in people who can.

I swear people thing that football teams are a big family business where people should be able to work happily in peace until they die or retire. It ain't that nice of a world, folks.

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[QUOTE=12thMan;344795]I don't. What has Champ won with Denver? Don't get me wrong, Champ is arguably the best CB in the game, but I like the way our secondary looks this year. I doubt we could afford Taylor, Landry and Champ back there.[/QUOTE]

Without Portis' contract we could have easily had Champ, Taylor, and Landry. PLus some crazy @ss vets.

Remember his contract was the highest ever for a running back until LT signed a bigger deal. His contract was in excess of 56 mil for 7 years plus a wicked signing bonus.

In the words of George Michael, while at a Wizards game, "You never pay that much money for a running back, when you can find them anywhere. The redskins messed around and are now MARRIED to the contract of Portis."

You only pay that to a quarterback who is your franchise, or to someone who defines your franchise. If he doesnt return to his prior form, then I dont think any skins fans will be upset to see him go.

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;344933]Without Portis' contract we could have easily had Champ, Taylor, and Landry. PLus some crazy @ss vets.

Remember his contract was the highest ever for a running back until LT signed a bigger deal. His contract was in excess of 56 mil for 7 years plus a wicked signing bonus.

In the words of George Michael, while at a Wizards game, "You never pay that much money for a running back, when you can find them anywhere. The redskins messed around and are now MARRIED to the contract of Portis."

You only pay that to a quarterback who is your franchise, or to someone who defines your franchise. If he doesnt return to his prior form, then I dont think any skins fans will be upset to see him go.[/QUOTE]


Compelling argument...except, unless I'm mistaken, Champ signed a 7 year, $63 million contract (with an $18 million signing bonus) and CP signed an 8 year, $50 million contract (with a $17 million signing bonus) so I don't see where-from a financial perspective-Champ would have been better for us than CP.

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[quote=jsarno;344910]That's not entirely accurate.
Kevin Jones may be put on the PUP list, meaning Bell will be the starter.
Also, the Lions have said how great Tatem Bell has been during the preseason making everyone else seem like they are in slow motion.

Tatem Bell was leading the AFC in rushing when he was benched in Denver...why? Cause of fumbling issues...not completely unlike Betts.

[b]I am now firmly buying into the fact that running backs are pretty easy to come by[/b], and we don't need a huge cap number nor a huge mouth with Portis, especially when you factor in that he's gone from injury prone to fragile.[/quote]

So if what you say here is true, and good CB's are harder to come by, then Denver made out pretty well with trading Portis to Washington.

They drafted Bell with that pick they got from Washington, and now they traded Bell to Detriot for Dre Bly. Another RB for a CB. So esstentially Denver got a second round pick that ultimitely netted them another pro-bowl CB. They got a pretty good backfield out of the deal.

And, I must say, a backfield that will be there for more than 4 years.

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Portis isn't going anywhere folks. We're getting our money's worth and we will continue to get our money's worth. I expect 1300+ yards from him this year.

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It would be nice to see both him and Betts crack 1000, VERY NICE

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I get the feeling that Portis just doesn't want to be a Redskin anymore.

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[quote=mheisig;344932]I swear people thing that football teams are a big family business where people should be able to work happily in peace until they die or retire. It ain't that nice of a world, folks.[/quote]

First of all, I've already stated that I realize that the NFL is a business and everyone basically runs their organization the same way. All I'm saying is the Redskins organization is a little dirty in the way they do business. Snyder turns on the media machine and turns 90% of the fanbase against any big name player that is about to be released, or wishes to sign elsewhere. Anyone that's been around here for a while should be able to remember all of the eff(Champ, Smoot, Pierce, Arrington, Coles, etc.) threads that popped up when it was clear that one of them was leaving.

And it's funny to me that a lot of the same people that defend the front office for cutting a player are the same people that bitch at a player for wanting to leave the Redskins organization and play elsewhere.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344959]First of all, I've already stated that I realize that the NFL is a business and everyone basically runs their organization the same way. All I'm saying is the Redskins organization is a little dirty in the way they do business. Snyder turns on the media machine and turns 90% of the fanbase against any big name player that is about to be released, or wishes to sign elsewhere. Anyone that's been around here for a while should be able to remember all of the eff(Champ, Smoot, Pierce, Arrington, Coles, etc.) threads that popped up when it was clear that one of them was leaving.

And it's funny to me that a lot of the same people that defend the front office for cutting a player are the same people that bitch at a player for wanting to leave the Redskins organization and play elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

As a member of the "media machine" I can tell you that this is not exclusive to the Redskins, and it's not exclusive to the team's point of view as well. The players do the same when they want out. Surely you've seen that.

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[quote=RMSkins;344958]I get the feeling that Portis just doesn't want to be a Redskin anymore.[/quote]

Did you not read the article? God seriously this is what I am exactly aiming at...

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[quote=SmootSmack;344963]As a member of the "media machine" I can tell you that this is not exclusive to the Redskins, and it's not exclusive to the team's point of view as well. The players do the same when they want out. Surely you've seen that.[/quote]

Yes. There are plenty of players that badmouth their organization, but whether the team decides they don't need the player, or the player decides he wants to play elsewhere; 99% of the time, it's the player that looks bad. Even if a player has a legitimate beef, most people still view him as a malcontent or a crybaby.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344959](Champ, Smoot, Pierce, Arrington, Coles, etc.) [/QUOTE]

Add Sal'vea.

Seriously, CP said no more in that article than I used to say at work. It will all work out in the end.

Remember, an average NFL career is four (4) years in length. CP has had that, and more, and he laid his career on the line last year during a meaningless PS game. You have to expect the unexpected.

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[QUOTE=Southpaw;344969]Yes. There are plenty of players that badmouth their organization, but whether the team decides they don't need the player, or the player decides he wants to play elsewhere; 99% of the time, it's the player that looks bad. Even if a player has a legitimate beef, most people still view him as a malcontent or a crybaby.[/QUOTE]

Unless you're Patrick Ramsey, in which case you're apparently a God

(that's right, I went there with a P-Ram comment)

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;344945]So if what you say here is true, and good CB's are harder to come by, then Denver made out pretty well with trading Portis to Washington.

They drafted Bell with that pick they got from Washington, and now they traded Bell to Detriot for Dre Bly. Another RB for a CB. So esstentially Denver got a second round pick that ultimitely netted them another pro-bowl CB. They got a pretty good backfield out of the deal.

And, I must say, a backfield that will be there for more than 4 years.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I am saying that. You don't have to look outside of our orginization to see that great CB's are extremely hard to come by, and good ones are hard to find too. RB's are often a product of their line (see Denver for the past decade). Look at Emmitt Smith, there is no way in hell he was ever as good as Payton, or Sanders, or LT, and most everyone in the top 10 in rushing, but he has the most yards ever...why? O-LINE!

Denver has been very intelligent the way they have let their RB stars go! WHy not when you can always find someone to duplicate his numbers?

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If I'm picking a team our by position, let's say like a fantasy draft in Madden... the last position I'm going to pick is running back.

Jsarno is right on when pointing out great offensive lines are what's extremely important.

This doesn't mean that there aren't great running backs out there that can singlehandedly take over a game. These guys are rare, and worthy of a lot. I firmly believe CP is one of these rare gems in the NFL. He can block, he can run, catch, pass, the works. Do I feel we got shafted in the Denver deal? Not really.

We got a running back that broke a franchise record... and who is capable of taking over games. I think Denver got the better end of the deal, but we by no means got "screwed over".

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Do you guys really think that Champ Bailey was going to stay in Washington? He had one year left on his contract and with the revolving door at the defensive coaching position... he wasn't staying in town.
Just wait.... Portis will have his biggest year as a rusher in the NFL this year. This offense is going to click!
The defense will take a lot of pressure off the offense and vice versa. This team has got to come together this year.... and yes, Portis know with the money that he is making, he has got to perform. I think he is pumping himself enough.

and.... I'm spent. [/B][/B]

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Most people don't think he is going to last to the midway point of the season, so he probably is right that this might be his last year as a Skin. To me it won't matter that much. There are a ton of good FA RB's available every year. You know Snyder will throw around big $$$$$$$ to get the best he can. I like CP and would hate to see him go, but I liked Terry Allen and he had to go, loved Stephen Davis and he left, so if he does go it will suck, but we always find a decent replacement. Just hope it doesn't cost us a lot of $$$$$$$$$ AND a high draft pick.

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Clinton is being Clinton!!! Everyone knows he acts-a-fool front of the camera! While what he said is true,(our front office does not play around) I think he is happy here, he can be himself and the fans love him! this is how stuff gets blow out of proportions, next thing you know it going to be on sportscenter (if its not already!) lol!

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[quote=12thMan;344795]I don't. What has Champ won with Denver? Don't get me wrong, Champ is arguably the best CB in the game, but I like the way our secondary looks this year. I doubt we could afford Taylor, Landry and Champ back there.[/quote]

Wasn't Champ's deal cheaper than Portis'?

I don't know how you could prefer having an above average runningback over the best corner in football when we have been trying to replace Champ for 3 years now.

Now, shoulda coulda woulda, we don't have Champ, we have Portis. I think Portis' comments hold a lot of truth. He is being paid like one of the top backs in the league and Betts is more than capable. Portis gets called dumb a lot by fans and the media but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Washington will drop you like a bad habit when you become too expensive in their eyes. Hell, he may already be gone next year even if he puts up 2000 combined yards. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that either Washington, Griffin or Portis are let go along with Springs in the offseason, especially if we sign Cooley long term.

And don't run with my statement as a negative on Portis. Portis is a S T U D and Bett's couldn't hold his jock strap.

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[quote=hooskins;344965]Did you not read the article? God seriously this is what I am exactly aiming at...[/quote]
Woah! Calm down, yes I read the article. I am just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if this was Portis's last year as a Redskin, I just get the feeling he is not happy here anymore. Is that a problem?

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;345030]Wasn't Champ's deal cheaper than Portis'?
[/QUOTE]

Champ: 7 years, $63 million with $18 million signing bonus

Portis: 8 years, $50.6 million with $17 million signing bonus

Having the power to lock a hyperbolic Portis thread: Priceless

(but I won't)

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I think Portis is saying this so no one will view him as the threat that they have in the past. defenses let their guard down and boom Portis is running through them like the final 5 weeks of the 2005 season.

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[QUOTE=Grim21Reaper;345030] Hell, he may already be gone next year even if he puts up 2000 combined yards.

And don't run with my statement as a negative on Portis. Portis is a S T U D and Bett's couldn't hold his jock strap.[/QUOTE]

If he gets 2000 combined yards, especially with Betts getting snaps, he WILL be back in a Skins uni. However, if he plays 6-10 games and continues these injury woes, then I don't think he will be.

Betts works VERY well in this system. He is an excellent receiver out of the backfield, and he is a great north / south runner which is what this offense needs. His issues are the fact that he fumbles too much and need to be better at blocking, but both of those can be fixed and we could very easily get better production out of him.

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[quote=SmootSmack;345043]Champ: 7 years, $63 million with $18 million signing bonus

Portis: 8 years, $50.6 million with $17 million signing bonus

Having the power to lock a hyperbolic Portis thread: Priceless

(but I won't)[/quote]

I didn't feel like looking that up but thanks for doing so. Either way we made an idiotic move when we had a good runningback on the roster, extended a guy who had a deal in place and have still spent 3 years trying to replace the most rare commodity in the NFL (did I forget the 2nd rounder that was pissed away???).

You should also add Springs' deal, Smoot's deal, Rogers' deal, Wright's deal, Harris' deal and the bums that we grasped at.

Either way they should give him the ball 500 times this year and next (assuming he makes it to next year).

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[quote=RMSkins;345039]Woah! Calm down, yes I read the article. I am just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if this was Portis's last year as a Redskin, I just get the feeling he is not happy here anymore. Is that a problem?[/quote]

How does that quote make you think he isn't happy here? Why is he not happy here? Because he doesnt want to get hurt in preseason? That makes no sense.

Re: Portis Says This Year Could Be Last With Skins.
 

I do not see what everyone is getting so damn worked up about. He made a simple comment that he needed to perform this year. Every athlete should feel that way every year. Some people took this thread and his comment to the extreme and ran with it. Slow down. He has been productive ever since he has been here. Even last year he was second or third in scoring behind LT before being placed on IR. Being 26 years old, he has alot of football left in him. Even if the injury bug creeps up on him again so what! Its not like the guy is exactly injury prone. If you want to talk about injury prone look no further than Shawn Springs, who hasn't been completely healthy the past 2 seasons. Did we get rid of him? NO! We brought in some help for insurrance. Like CP, Springs carries a hefty contract and big play potential. Plus he is quite a few years older. Stop trying to throw CP to the wolves just because he made a comment about his future here if he doesn't perform. The comment did not come from coaches or any other officials. It was a comment by CP which reveals what he is thinking right now. Obviously he is worried and has a chip on his shoulder. He feels that he needs to prove himself again. That's all. Stop your flippin crying.